It seems that World War 3 is near...

[superfoodist]

With all of this Israel vs Iran stuff, it's really starting to seem like the end is near. If just one nuke goes off on either side, it will trigger a chain reaction of all nuke holders to unleash their arsenal, destroying massive portions of the world from direct blasts, and then destroying even more through radiation that will spread throughout the entire planet.

It's really hard for me to stay positive everyday. As soon as I begin to be optimistic, I suddenly think about the worlds condition, and it's hard to be happy again.

I don't believe the bible in the sense of it being the "book of God", but I definitely think it's a blueprint that the powers that be work by, and so far everything that's happening is fitting in quite well with the Book of Revelations..

The events in Egypt, the events in Libya, now the wars about to begin with Israel. This is all very unfortunate and I can't seem to shake off this depression that comes along with my awareness. :/

[elucidate]

Maybe this belongs in the emotional mastery section? Not sure as it is about World stuff?

I mean, most people are trying like crazy not to think about any of this stuff...hence all the self-absorbed threads on this forum, and discussions about everything BUT this.

If you want to purge your fears and depression, emotional mastery is probably the more appropriate place.

I'm not saying that to try and make you feel bad, but it usually ends up triggering everyone elses fears when someone starts talking about it. I do understand that it's hard to keep to yourself when you feel this way though. It feels good to get it out.

I've noticed a lot of your posts seem to dwell on the more fearful things going on in the world, and it almost seems like you want to spread the fear around, though you probably aren't deliberately trying to do this.

I know they are real things to talk about though, it's just challenging when someone starts a discussion about it when other people may not be feeling the same...and suddenly get sucked into the vortex of someone elses apocalyptic nightmares.

Many people here know what's going on as well, but focusing on it isn't going to help the situation any. It's hard not to though, I agree.

It's a worrying situation...and I've had my apocalyptic moments before...many of them believe me, and it is very hard to be happy when you are bogged down with all these thoughts. It sounds like you are having one of those right now.

[superfoodist]

Just looking for other peoples input/opinions on the matter.

[elucidate]

Originally Posted by superfoodist

Just looking for other peoples input/opinions on the matter.

What sort of input?

It's all farcked up...I agree!

What more can be said about it?

There is no reassurance. Everything is in the hands of madmen...we're all powerless to stop them.

What good will opinions do?

[Peterw]

Originally Posted by superfoodist

With all of this Israel vs Iran stuff, it's really starting to seem like the end is near. If just one nuke goes off on either side, it will trigger a chain reaction of all nuke holders to unleash their arsenal, destroying massive portions of the world from direct blasts, and then destroying even more through radiation that will spread throughout the entire planet.

It's really hard for me to stay positive everyday. As soon as I begin to be optimistic, I suddenly think about the worlds condition, and it's hard to be happy again.

I don't believe the bible in the sense of it being the "book of God", but I definitely think it's a blueprint that the powers that be work by, and so far everything that's happening is fitting in quite well with the Book of Revelations..

The events in Egypt, the events in Libya, now the wars about to begin with Israel. This is all very unfortunate and I can't seem to shake off this depression that comes along with my awareness. :/

Read the 'Power of Now' and try and just enjoy the present moment without worrying what might or might not happen in the future.

We went through this in the 80s cold war when the threat of nuclear war was prevalent. I'm sure the Iranians love their children too. The idea of nations obliterating each other doesn't really appeal to either side -it's like a game of chess where both sides have each other in check mate.

If Iran nukes Isreal what will happen then? Will they be able to nuke everyone else that will retaliate while avoid getting nuked themselves?

Don't get me wrong it's a terrifying idea but let's not get too ahead of ourselves and just yet.

[elucidate]

Originally Posted by Peterw

Read the 'Power of Now' and try and just enjoy the present moment without worrying what might or might not happen in the future.

We went through this in the 80s cold war when the threat of nuclear war was prevalent. I'm sure the Iranians love their children too. The idea of nations obliterating each other doesn't really appeal to either side -it's like a game of chess where both sides have each other in check mate.

If Iran nukes Isreal what will happen then? Will they be able to nuke everyone else that will retaliate while avoid getting nuked themselves?

Don't get me wrong it's a terrifying idea but let's not get too ahead of ourselves and just yet.

Exactly. It's always more about the fear and threat that it produces on both sides, rather than actually going through with it.

If they did...there'd be no one to control through fear, right. Control freaks aren't having fun unless they have people to control and if they kill us all, and themselves...well, that's not fun.

[garentee]

Originally Posted by elucidate

Maybe this belongs in the emotional mastery section? Not sure as it is about World stuff?

I mean, most people are trying like crazy not to think about any of this stuff...hence all the self-absorbed threads on this forum, and discussions about everything BUT this.

If you want to purge your fears and depression, emotional mastery is probably the more appropriate place.

I'm not saying that to try and make you feel bad, but it usually ends up triggering everyone elses fears when someone starts talking about it. I do understand that it's hard to keep to yourself when you feel this way though. It feels good to get it out.

I've noticed a lot of your posts seem to dwell on the more fearful things going on in the world, and it almost seems like you want to spread the fear around, though you probably aren't deliberately trying to do this.

I know they are real things to talk about though, it's just challenging when someone starts a discussion about it when other people may not be feeling the same...and suddenly get sucked into the vortex of someone elses apocalyptic nightmares.

Many people here know what's going on as well, but focusing on it isn't going to help the situation any. It's hard not to though, I agree.

It's a worrying situation...and I've had my apocalyptic moments before...many of them believe me, and it is very hard to be happy when you are bogged down with all these thoughts. It sounds like you are having one of those right now.

I agree with this... and I have done plenty of that.. It seems like you are playing a game of worst case scenario... and that is not a fun game at all.. but a common one among us upright primates...

[superfoodist]

Originally Posted by Peterw

Read the 'Power of Now' and try and just enjoy the present moment without worrying what might or might not happen in the future.

I'm actually on page 70 :P


@elucidate, sorry :/ I'll try and stop spreading my doom and gloom, I just feel that posting about it is the only way to bring more awareness to these issues, and more awareness brings about a better chance of change.

[elucidate]

Originally Posted by superfoodist

I'm actually on page 70 :P


@elucidate, sorry :/ I'll try and stop spreading my doom and gloom, I just feel that posting about it is the only way to bring more awareness to these issues, and more awareness brings about a better chance of change.

Most people are aware of the issues. Bringing awareness to people who are already aware does nothing to change the situation...nor does discussing it. All that does is trigger peoples fears and suck them into a gloomy vortex. I think you are just feeling down and want to feel better, which is normal.

Changing where you place your consciousness will change your reality though, which may help to change the world in some small way. Being depressed doesn't help the situation...being happy, now that's a way of helping to change society.

It's also what the powers that be don't want. They want us all to be down...so being happy is like giving them the finger in a way, and you win. Not easy of course, when you are fretting over everything.

If it is getting to you, I suggest going on a neg media free diet for a while, so you aren't consuming so much fodder for fear.

[Moriarty]

And if it happens? What then? Will you be around to care about it? I doubt it. Best to place your energies into enjoying life instead of worrying what might happen. While your focusing on this, your missing out on the now.

[superfoodist]

Word. Thanks guys, I'll try and keep in the present.


Going to read some more "The Power of Now" and make it my dominant mindset.

[russianrocket]

Originally Posted by superfoodist

With all of this Israel vs Iran stuff, it's really starting to seem like the end is near. If just one nuke goes off on either side, it will trigger a chain reaction of all nuke holders to unleash their arsenal, destroying massive portions of the world from direct blasts, and then destroying even more through radiation that will spread throughout the entire planet.

It's really hard for me to stay positive everyday. As soon as I begin to be optimistic, I suddenly think about the worlds condition, and it's hard to be happy again.

I don't believe the bible in the sense of it being the "book of God", but I definitely think it's a blueprint that the powers that be work by, and so far everything that's happening is fitting in quite well with the Book of Revelations..

The events in Egypt, the events in Libya, now the wars about to begin with Israel. This is all very unfortunate and I can't seem to shake off this depression that comes along with my awareness. :/

A nuke going off on one side, won't trigger everyone to shoot theirs off. Been watching too many end of the world movies there.

[Shift]

I've got a great idea... stop reading/watching the news for a while.

The news makes it's money through advertising. If everything was peachy 100% of the time, people would find better things to do. So, the media makes it look as if the world is constantly teetering on the edge of destruction, keeping people scared and glued to the TV for more updates.

Here's the fact: if the world is on the verge of nuclear war, worrying about it isn't going to help. Learn some skills, become indispensable, and live your life the way you want to live it.

Don't fall into victim mindset. Do something about it!

[JSB]

I second this. It's in no other nation's interests to turn a limited regional war into an all-out nuclear exchange. In fact, the whole rationale behind the Cold War strategy of Mutually Assured Destruction (i.e. massive nuclear exchange designed to "kill a nation") was to deter either side from ever starting a nuclear war in the first place.

The US, the EU, China, and Japan all have an incentive to try to limit a regional war in order to keep oil production and transport active in the Persian Gulf region.

Iran doesn't even have any nukes yet, though that may not be true for long.

Originally Posted by russianrocket

A nuke going off on one side, won't trigger everyone to shoot theirs off. Been watching too many end of the world movies there.

[IvyW]

Originally Posted by russianrocket

A nuke going off on one side, won't trigger everyone to shoot theirs off. Been watching too many end of the world movies there.

I too, agree with this.

[Criseyde]

We have a huge barrel of wine, but no cups.
That's fine with us. Every morning
we glow and in the evening we glow again.

They say there's no future for us. They're right.
Which is fine with us.



Rumi

[Somnium Dico]

Originally Posted by superfoodist

With all of this Israel vs Iran stuff, it's really starting to seem like the end is near. If just one nuke goes off on either side, it will trigger a chain reaction of all nuke holders to unleash their arsenal, destroying massive portions of the world from direct blasts, and then destroying even more through radiation that will spread throughout the entire planet.

It's really hard for me to stay positive everyday. As soon as I begin to be optimistic, I suddenly think about the worlds condition, and it's hard to be happy again.

I don't believe the bible in the sense of it being the "book of God", but I definitely think it's a blueprint that the powers that be work by, and so far everything that's happening is fitting in quite well with the Book of Revelations..

The events in Egypt, the events in Libya, now the wars about to begin with Israel. This is all very unfortunate and I can't seem to shake off this depression that comes along with my awareness. :/

1.) The fun thing about the Book of Revelations is that it's not a prediction at all, more like a coded message directly referencing the dictatorship that the writer was under while he wrote it. Of course he couldn't outwardly state that under penalty of death.

And on top of that, the other fun thing is that it is incredibly vague and artistically written, so even if you decide to ignore history and see it as some sort of prediction, a paranoid mind can associate the events in the book with ANYTHING that's happening in modern days.

Been there, done that.

2.) You, and many other people, seem to be under the impression that the knowledge of what an ass-load of nukes going off at once will do is secret and kept only by those who aren't in positions of power. Trust me, anyone in charge of actually firing the nukes is fully aware of the dangers of such an act, and don't want the damn world to blow up any more than you do.

Take it from someone who was raised in a fearful, Catholic environment with this kind of stuff; stop worrying about it, do what you can, and live your damn life. The world goes from wonderful, to crap, and back to wonderful again all the time.

Hell, if anything, look at Revelations for that message. Things sucked that much BACK THEN too. Yet here we are.

[Bradshaw]

You've just lost perspective a bit. Realize that:

• Every 10 seconds or so, someone is having a mind blowing orgasm that makes him or her happy and ecstatic beyond belief.
• Every so often, someone has such an awesome experience that have a smile on their face all day.
• Very often, someone feels very happy.
• The sky is blue. Ain't that a miracle? I mean how is that even possible?
• Your stomach can digest things automatically, without you having to think about it. Again, how can such an amazing incredible thing be possible?
• Kids are smiling and playing without a care in the world, every moment, around the world.
• And many adults are also smiling and playing, without a care in the world.
• Someone is having sex, and they're not thinking about all this stuff.
• Someone is having a very cool spiritual experience, and they aren't thinking about this stuff.
• Several people have chosen to be happy regardless of what happens around them, all the time. So they're happy--no matter what. It isn't even that difficult to be happy 24/7 if you decide to make it an absolute priority in your life.

And I could go on.


Power is choosing to direct your thoughts & emotions, and directing them.

If your thoughts & emotions are happy, joyful and peaceful, then by definition you are happy, joyful and peaceful, all the time.

[firenexx]

HMMMMM very nice thread y'all have got here.

I cannot overstate importance of not getting sucked into the whole END OF THE WORLD thing. If you worry about it, it will happen. Instead focus on being here and now, and raising your vibration. Problem will solve itself!

[russianrocket]

Originally Posted by firenexx

HMMMMM very nice thread y'all have got here.

I cannot overstate importance of not getting sucked into the whole END OF THE WORLD thing. If you worry about it, it will happen. Instead focus on being here and now, and raising your vibration. Problem will solve itself!

Maybe the aliens will come back, and realize that their creations have come too far, and will stop us from destroying ourselves. problem solved.

[elucidate]

Originally Posted by russianrocket

Maybe the aliens will come back, and realize that their creations have come too far, and will stop us from destroying ourselves. problem solved.

Or maybe they'll eat us, and the world will be saved from us...problem solved.

[illbreaker]

Originally Posted by superfoodist

With all of this Israel vs Iran stuff, it's really starting to seem like the end is near. If just one nuke goes off on either side, it will trigger a chain reaction of all nuke holders to unleash their arsenal, destroying massive portions of the world from direct blasts, and then destroying even more through radiation that will spread throughout the entire planet.

It's really hard for me to stay positive everyday. As soon as I begin to be optimistic, I suddenly think about the worlds condition, and it's hard to be happy again.

I don't believe the bible in the sense of it being the "book of God", but I definitely think it's a blueprint that the powers that be work by, and so far everything that's happening is fitting in quite well with the Book of Revelations..

The events in Egypt, the events in Libya, now the wars about to begin with Israel. This is all very unfortunate and I can't seem to shake off this depression that comes along with my awareness. :/

If it brings Armageddon then I'm for it. Maybe the removal of the mosque on the temple mount will fulfill the biblical prophecies. Im sick and tired of the bull ♥♥♥♥ that humans submit other people to. I say destroy the earth and wipe the slate clean.

[elucidate]

Originally Posted by illbreaker

If it brings Armageddon then I'm for it. Maybe the removal of the mosque on the temple mount will fulfill the biblical prophecies. Im sick and tired of the bull ♥♥♥♥ that humans submit other people to. I say destroy the earth and wipe the slate clean.

I've felt that way in the past. It was almost like "Come on, hurry up and get it over with already." I wouldn't want the earth to be destroyed though, but it would be better off if humans were wiped out.

[ZephyrusX]

I don't understand. Are you saying that you are a drunkard? You'll just throw you head into that barrel of wine with or without a cup?

Originally Posted by Criseyde

We have a huge barrel of wine, but no cups.
That's fine with us. Every morning
we glow and in the evening we glow again.

They say there's no future for us. They're right.
Which is fine with us.



Rumi

[Somnium Dico]

Originally Posted by russianrocket

Maybe the aliens will come back, and realize that their creations have come too far, and will stop us from destroying ourselves. problem solved.

I read this and couldn't help but think of this guy.

[firenexx]

I don't agree that humanity should be "wiped out" because the earth would be better off without us. It might be better off without us, but we would not be better off without the earth, and without our minds to comprehend the earth, the earth wouldn't exist in the first place.
I mean, sure, we've screwed up the earth almost beyond repair. I don't think it is beyond us to repair our damage, and I don't think it's unrealistic to expect that someday we will be its stewards rather than its rapists. This kind of epic fatalism just doesn't make sense to me.

[danas]

Originally Posted by superfoodist

With all of this Israel vs Iran stuff, it's really starting to seem like the end is near.

Make love not war!
Seriously, love is the greatest power, and if you just focus on spreading love, it will add more love to the world and it will effect the equilibrium. So focus on love instead of fear

[arpee]

Originally Posted by firenexx

I don't agree that humanity should be "wiped out" because the earth would be better off without us. It might be better off without us, but we would not be better off without the earth, and without our minds to comprehend the earth, the earth wouldn't exist in the first place.

Hmm, I don't think that is so. Earth is a living being it doesn't need us to think about it to exist... If we are gone, the earth will break down our cement road, and scientific laboratories and revert back to it's natural state with the grass and water... In fact, the earth is already trying to do that, have you ever seen plant-life growing from the crack of the cement?

The earth is a living being with it's own intentions... It'll be fine with or without us...

That being said, if anyone feels scared that a WW3 may be happening soon, I think they should just meditate until they feel peaceful again. If you don't have a clear mind then you can't do anything anyway.

[russianrocket]

Originally Posted by arpee

Hmm, I don't think that is so. Earth is a living being it doesn't need us to think about it to exist... If we are gone, the earth will break down our cement road, and scientific laboratories and revert back to it's natural state with the grass and water... In fact, the earth is already trying to do that, have you ever seen plant-life growing from the crack of the cement?

The earth is a living being with it's own intentions... It'll be fine with or without us...

That being said, if anyone feels scared that a WW3 may be happening soon, I think they should just meditate until they feel peaceful again. If you don't have a clear mind then you can't do anything anyway.

I don't think you got fires point. It's the " if a tree falls in the forest without anyone to hear it, does it make a sound" argument. Does reality exist without someone to realize it?

[elucidate]

Originally Posted by firenexx

I don't agree that humanity should be "wiped out" because the earth would be better off without us. It might be better off without us, but we would not be better off without the earth, and without our minds to comprehend the earth, the earth wouldn't exist in the first place.
I mean, sure, we've screwed up the earth almost beyond repair. I don't think it is beyond us to repair our damage, and I don't think it's unrealistic to expect that someday we will be its stewards rather than its rapists. This kind of epic fatalism just doesn't make sense to me.

You don't have to agree with me, but do you really think it's realistic that the thousands upon thousands of species of animals and plants that are now extinct will just grow back miraculously?

It's nice that you're so optimistic. I wish it were true that the majority of the population would suddenly wake up and start appreciating what's right in front of them...but that might not happen before we disappear up our own arse.

It might, but in my opinion, it will take a very long time before the majority start to take their role as stewards seriously.

What you see as fatalism, I see to be realism.

Also, the earth existed long before we did...so it would still be here if we weren't. We didn't "comprehend" it into existence.