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Old 07-19-2011, 03:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Reasons why Rebecca Black's new song will not be received well.

Here are my reasons why Rebecca Black's new song will not be received well by people.


1.Her new song is sort of like self empowering song, which addresses her haters with imaginary video depicting her becoming popular(in a positive way).Which looked too melodramatic because she is not popular, in reality.

2.Auto-tune(When I heard it, I stopped playing the video)

3.Poor song selection

4.It's like trying to build a home in a place destroyed by fire, and that place is still burning. People need time to see her as a respected singer. Maybe she should have taken a break for few years before making songs.

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Old 07-19-2011, 04:24 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Here are my reasons why Rebecca Black's new song will not be received well by people.


1.Her new song is sort of like self empowering song, which addresses her haters with imaginary video depicting her becoming popular(in a positive way).Which looked too melodramatic because she is not popular, in reality.

2.Auto-tune(When I heard it, I stopped playing the video)

3.Poor song selection

4.It's like trying to build a home in a place destroyed by fire, and that place is still burning. People need time to see her as a respected singer. Maybe she should have taken a break for few years before making songs.
1. She is INSANELY popular. Who doesn't know the name "Rebecca Black?" Her video on YouTube has over a hundred million views. In fact, I'd even argue Rebecca Black is a more popular name than Justin Bieber (at this moment).

2. Auto-Tune made her famous in the first place. Plus, look at common pop trends – not everyone is like you. Most aren't, actually.

3. I didn't like the song either, but what does that have to do with anything?

4. Absolutely not. Give her just a few more months and no one will remember who the hell she was. A few year break? Rebecca Black who? This is probably the only time something like this could work and her producers know it.

Hell, her video already has over a million views and will very likely breeze past 10 million. Do you know how many artists can do this? You could probably count them with two hands.

P.S. - I don't see how this is really worth discussing in World Affairs, but whatever!
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Old 07-19-2011, 04:55 PM   #3 (permalink)
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1. She is INSANELY popular. Who doesn't know the name "Rebecca Black?"
I don't. I've never heard of the name until this thread.
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Old 07-19-2011, 05:13 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Just because she's the current pop star that's popular to hate, doesn't mean she can't make a boatload of money.
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1. She is INSANELY popular. Who doesn't know the name "Rebecca Black?" Her video on YouTube has over a hundred million views. In fact, I'd even argue Rebecca Black is a more popular name than Justin Bieber (at this moment).
2. Auto-Tune made her famous in the first place. Plus, look at common pop trends – not everyone is like you. Most aren't, actually.
I think you misrepresented my post.She is popular,yeah. But in a negative way.Auto tune can be used people who sing well but not as a way to hide your shortcomings.I like auto tuned songs from Black eyed peas because they do it tastefully.

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3. I didn't like the song either, but what does that have to do with anything?
That was my opinion,of course.

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4. Absolutely not. Give her just a few more months and no one will remember who the hell she was. A few year break? Rebecca Black who? This is probably the only time something like this could work and her producers know it.

Hell, her video already has over a million views and will very likely breeze past 10 million. Do you know how many artists can do this? You could probably count them with two hands.

She is only 14 something. I find it ridiculous people encourage her to make songs even though they are terrible compared with other artists. Even if people do forget about her, it might have been a fresh start for her career.And the thing about viral videos is that people will never forget them as long as Internet is there. If she had taken a few years break and focus on improving her abilities,she would have been an inspiring story.
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Old 07-20-2011, 06:51 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Didn't you hear? This is her new song. Duh!

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‪Rebecca Black "Friday" (Brock's Dub)‬‏ - YouTube
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Old 07-20-2011, 11:20 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Didn't you hear? This is her new song. Duh!

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‪Rebecca Black "Friday" (Brock's Dub)‬‏ - YouTube
No it's not actually. She's released a new song on youtube. I'm not linking it though; I don't care much for her singing.
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No it's not actually. She's released a new song on youtube. I'm not linking it though; I don't care much for her singing.
I take it you didn't watch it. It's a parody of her song Friday. It's pretty funny.
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Reasons why Rebecca Black's new song will not be received well.
The real question is: Who gives a ****?

In my opinion, everyone who makes a big deal about hating Rebecca Black (or other people, like Justin Bieber) is what some Internet folk like to call "butthurt." It means that you only hate her because she is more successful than you are. In other words, you are jealous that she is famous and making thousands of dollars in iTunes sales (she is!) at such a young age and with so little work involved (it only took her ONE music video).

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I think you misrepresented my post.She is popular,yeah. But in a negative way.Auto tune can be used people who sing well but not as a way to hide your shortcomings.I like auto tuned songs from Black eyed peas because they do it tastefully.
Tons of internationally famous and well-respected singers use auto-tune.

I'm not saying that Kanye West is well-respected, but have you heard his music? He can't even sing at all. Pretty much every song he makes is 100% auto-tuned.

Yet somehow, he sells millions of songs and is known as a big figure in the music industry.

Most people probably don't care about auto-tune at all; they just want a song that sounds good.

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Old 07-23-2011, 09:23 AM   #10 (permalink)
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Who?

I never heard of her.
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Apparently she donated the profits from her Friday song to Japan.

Rebecca Black Donating 'Friday' Proceeds to Japan
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i think the girl has some talent..not much but she does have it, autotune seems to hide this. The reason she was made fun of was because of the lyrics she had to sing, so if anyone is to blame its arkmusic, and if you check their channel, they only sponsor 12-13 year olds which i find a bit creepy since they write the lyrics for them and the videos.

anyway i dont think many people know this but the only reason she became popular was because her song was posted in 4chan's /b/ by the mods as background music and it was up there for a few days. I saw the video when it only had a few hundred views, and if you know /b/ they're pretty bad people.

But i do agree her new song is a bit dull.
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In my opinion, everyone who makes a big deal about hating Rebecca Black (or other people, like Justin Bieber) is what some Internet folk like to call "butthurt." It means that you only hate her because she is more successful than you are. In other words, you are jealous that she is famous and making thousands of dollars in iTunes sales (she is!) at such a young age and with so little work involved (it only took her ONE music video).
I don't know about other people but if this is directed towards me, I would say that I do not care how much money this artist makes from her songs because it is not good. And I don't hate her but only criticize her.

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Tons of internationally famous and well-respected singers use auto-tune.

I'm not saying that Kanye West is well-respected, but have you heard his music? He can't even sing at all. Pretty much every song he makes is 100% auto-tuned.

Yet somehow, he sells millions of songs and is known as a big figure in the music industry.

Most people probably don't care about auto-tune at all; they just want a song that sounds good.
I agree with this.

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i think the girl has some talent..not much but she does have it, autotune seems to hide this. The reason she was made fun of was because of the lyrics she had to sing, so if anyone is to blame its arkmusic, and if you check their channel, they only sponsor 12-13 year olds which i find a bit creepy since they write the lyrics for them and the videos.
Their sales pitch is basically that they will produce a high quality music video for young teens who have a dream of becoming successful singers in their future. Although it is really up to the parents if they want to take this step or not, since it is the parents' choice to pay for it.

If you look at famous singers, almost all of them started their careers while they were young, and eventually worked their way up to being famous.

As for the ArkMusic videos, most of the lyrics are mediocre at best. But the actual production value of the music videos is high, and they make them for relatively cheap (like $4000) when making an actual music video for a famous artist can easily cost $100k+.

I think they just found a niche (parents/moms whose daughters want to be singers) and are good at exploiting it. At least, this is what I see in them as a business-savvy guy myself.

Also, all of their music videos tend to get a few hundred thousand views each, so really the parents of the children are paying for 1) experience for their child 2) production of a portfolio piece that the child can show to real studios and 3) possible exposure to professionals who would want to work with them.

Many people don't know this, but Justin Bieber (along with countless other now-famous singers) started by singing on Youtube videos and were found there by people who wanted to work with them.

In this case, Rebecca Black just happened to get lucky when the Tosh.0 (a comedy show) blog website linked to her music video to make fun of it. Their blog likely gets millions of visitors per month, and so her video instantly spread across tons of other websites within days.

So really, these ArkMusic people accomplished exactly what the parents wanted: to get exposure for their aspiring son/daughter.

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anyway i dont think many people know this but the only reason she became popular was because her song was posted in 4chan's /b/ by the mods as background music and it was up there for a few days. I saw the video when it only had a few hundred views, and if you know /b/ they're pretty bad people.

But i do agree her new song is a bit dull.
I think it was on Tosh.0 blog first, not 100% sure though.
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If she really is the author of "Friday" then she has talent. Think about this: it was her first song and she is only 14 years old. I wonder how many of big time stars were able to write somethig like that at her age.

So she could become a "real" artist in the future. The problem is there are people already profiting from her work and from the ridiculization she has gone through, which she is not able to see now.

The other problem is that she chose a music style known for the many sudden stars that can't live by the hype they have enjoyed? That music style has a new king, queen, prince and princess every month.

But probably in the future she can polish her talent and become a very good artist.
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I never heard of her.
Rebecca Black - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friday_(Rebecca_Black_song)

Hopefully the first paragraph of each will give you a good summary.


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If she really is the author of "Friday" then she has talent. Think about this: it was her first song and she is only 14 years old. I wonder how many of big time stars were able to write somethig like that at her age.
She isn't, just an FYI.

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"Friday" is a song by American recording artist Rebecca Black, written and produced by Clarence Jey and Patrice Wilson.
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I like to think of Rebecca Black somewhat like Jersey Shore: so bad, it's good. At least, that's the only way I can imagine them garnering any sort of success. For my own tastes, they're both so bad that they're not worth my time.

It's a sign of the times I suppose. People love a train wreck. There's nothing admirable about a bunch of mid-twenties Italians yelling and screaming for an hour but Jersey Shore is insanely popular.

Will RB's new song be popular? Unless it's unapologetically awful, I doubt it. Mediocre won't cut it. It either has to be really, really bad or pretty good.
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Haha, she's actually a cute teen.. Quite funny.

She is so hated, that even if she made decent music it would be hated. I hope she makes some profit from it...
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What the hell is this doing in "World Affairs"?
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What the hell is this doing in "World Affairs"?
Where do you think I should post this then? Its not funny to post it in Fun and Recreation...
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Same thing I was thinking while glossing over this thread.
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Where do you think I should post this then? Its not funny to post it in Fun and Recreation...
We could start a "Misery and Toil" section to balance out "Fun and Recreation".

It doesn't really matter where this thread is, put it wherever you wish, but I can't say I consider a 13 year old girl's silly vanity-project video on YouTube to be relevant to World Affairs, even if it was popular for awhile. Call me when her next dumb song inspires a religion or political movement.
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