Bin Laden dead?

[HeartExalted]

It sounds hard to believe, but that's what the news is saying: link

[Criseyde]

oh snap!

[beast]

I don't know! Fox is "confriming" the death of some dude named Osama Bin "Landen", but I'm not sure who he is!

Okay, all jabs at Fox aside...is it in bad taste to be pleased at the knowledge that a fellow human being is dead? Or is it okay to whip out the bubbly?

[HeartExalted]

Originally Posted by beast

Okay, all jabs at Fox aside...is it in bad taste to be pleased at the knowledge that a fellow human being is dead? Or is it okay to whip out the bubbly?

Honestly, I'm curious to see whether Erin and/or Steve weighs in on this turn of events...and if so, what they have to say about it.

[theuprising]

Originally Posted by HeartExalted

Honestly, I'm curious to see whether Erin and/or Steve weighs in on this turn of events...and if so, what they have to say about it.

steve isn't psychic and I didn't know that he had any sort of knowledge in international affairs

[Excellent Lodestar]

He's dead.
that he was the "mastermind" of ANYTHING, is another in a long line of lies your govt has spoon fed you. Go back to sleep America, your Govt is in control...What a joke.

[momo3bur]

Originally Posted by Excellent Lodestar

He's dead.
that he was the "mastermind" of ANYTHING, is another in a long line of lies your govt has spoon fed you. Go back to sleep America, your Govt is in control...What a joke.

We're not all completely blind to our government's spellbinding. You just reminded me of this awesome song. YouTube - 10. Pet - A Perfect Circle

[Curtis2011]

Originally Posted by HeartExalted

It sounds hard to believe, but that's what the news is saying: link

President Obama is currently speaking now about how USA forces killed Osama Bin Laden.

The video is currently up here.

[Grandiouse]

Yeah, he is dead. How is this going to affect the "war on terrorism"?

[veloci]

That is one man down for the count. Now for the 5 gazillion left.

Seriously I find it deplorable that some people rejoice in someone's death. It is a travesty whenever a death happens, regardless of their past actions. People are too obsessed with good vs evil... That speaks more of them than anything.

[Sfumato]

10 years and we finally ice his ass. My last tour of duty was spent TDY with the DOHS in the early stages of its creation. To those who don't think he was a powerful leadership force in multiple terrorist communities; you are entitled to your beliefs and illusions and all the cynical and snide comments you can copy and paste. I was present in NYC during 9-11 and I was there to help in the beginning of the DOHS and I worked cooperative operations with other branches of the government. I will make a statement of Fact that Bin Laden was a monster from way back and yes he had it coming. Of course the corruption that came with Patriot Act was a partial factor in my decision to retire. You want to hear some stories of serious constitutionally bad JU-JU that went on in the first year and half after 9-11? scary stuff.

[Criseyde]

Originally Posted by beast

I don't know! Fox is "confriming" the death of some dude named Osama Bin "Landen", but I'm not sure who he is!

Okay, all jabs at Fox aside...is it in bad taste to be pleased at the knowledge that a fellow human being is dead? Or is it okay to whip out the bubbly?

Yeah, geez. This man invested his life into taking other, innocent lives. I do not hope that there is retribution in the afterlife, I'm just glad that he can't do any more damage here.

I guess I don't feel particularly pleased, but I'm definitely not sad.

[bullard123]

Yes I agree here...We dont need evil people like that in our world

[aelle]

Originally Posted by beast

I don't know! Fox is "confriming" the death of some dude named Osama Bin "Landen", but I'm not sure who he is!

Okay, all jabs at Fox aside...is it in bad taste to be pleased at the knowledge that a fellow human being is dead? Or is it okay to whip out the bubbly?

Fow now making another "honest" mistake in their reporting:

[HiImJeremy]

Steve is pretty intuitive! He strikes me as someone who just knows things. Living with Erin it would have rubbed off on him.

Also, in their possession, the US government are privy and are capable of the services of many types of people. Perhaps people of war or people of significant use like Remote Viewers. No one can say these people haven't been utilised to the full extent, and i have a feeling they've known where he's been for a long time. Only now they decide to act. What is the motive?

Besides, they it's only a puppet. The puppeteer/s are yet to be found.

[Indiana]

Originally Posted by aelle

Fox now making another "honest" mistake in their reporting:

So sad that people just don't know when to insert a colon.

[momo3bur]

Originally Posted by Indiana

So sad that people just don't know when to insert a colon.

BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!

See, this is what rep was made for.

[ssandra]

I am not afraid to say that I am glad that he is dead.

I used to be against the dead penalty, and I still am in the way it is shown to be used in the US (in movies, not sure how real that is?).

I am not for people like Osama bin Laden. He caused a lot of peoples death. He is full of hate. I don't hate him, I don't feel strongly happy about the person he is being dead. I do feel glad about what he represents being dead.

[ZephyrusX]

So what is all I have to ask? Killing one man isn't going to change the situation in the Middle East. Nor will it decrease terrorist attacks. I suppose some people will derive value via revenge. I personally like to see an actual difference in the world that will contribute to stability and peace. One man doesn't cause all that hatred and death. State intervention and structural marginalization do. If he is actually dead, someone else will simply replace him. And this will continue until we actually address the reasons why some people in the Middle East resort to hatred and violence. An eye for an eye never made a difference.

[cacheborn]

Strange thing is he was found in country that the US did not formally attack to find him in the first place.

[LostMyMap]

Obama: 1

Osama: 0

[KaleidoskopicVision]

Originally Posted by Sfumato

10 years and we finally ice his ass. My last tour of duty was spent TDY with the DOHS in the early stages of its creation. To those who don't think he was a powerful leadership force in multiple terrorist communities; you are entitled to your beliefs and illusions and all the cynical and snide comments you can copy and paste. I was present in NYC during 9-11 and I was there to help in the beginning of the DOHS and I worked cooperative operations with other branches of the government. I will make a statement of Fact that Bin Laden was a monster from way back and yes he had it coming. Of course the corruption that came with Patriot Act was a partial factor in my decision to retire. You want to hear some stories of serious constitutionally bad JU-JU that went on in the first year and half after 9-11? scary stuff.

Bin Laden regularly received funds from the CIA. If he's a monster, what does that say about America? Nothing cynical or snide about that, just some seriously ****ed up truth.

Edit: Well at least now Fox News should lose any and all shreds of credibility it had remaining.

[momo3bur]

I don't know if anyone's posted this yet, so here's P. Obama's speech to confirm Osama's death and explain the actions that were taken.
Osama bin Laden dead: Al Qaida leader killed in CIA-led attack - latimes.com

[LostMyMap]

Originally Posted by KaleidoskopicVision

Bin Laden regularly received funds from the CIA.

Got a credible source for that?

[KaleidoskopicVision]

Originally Posted by LostMyMap

Got a credible source for that?

Why yes I do,

Let me google that for you

And because I am kind, http://letsrollforums.com/need-evide....html?p=188166

Second post by ricochet contains all you need to know.

Seriously, it's like everyone just forgets about the intricacies of the Cold War.

[LostMyMap]

I've never wished a man dead, but I have read some obituaries with great pleasure. - Mark Twain

[LostMyMap]

Originally Posted by KaleidoskopicVision

Why yes I do,

Let me google that for you

The only thing that posting a link to lmgtfy.com lends credibility to is the idea that you are being a jerk. But even that didn't work out so well, when you follow that link, on the first page are several links to sites that in fact, dispel that tin-foil-hat story. Oh well, nice try.

In any case so what. We also sent lots of raw materials to Japan in the 30s and they turned around and made war with it. You never gave something to someone who later screwed you over? You got nothing.

[Indiana]

Honestly, the thing that surprises me most about this is that he was still alive in the first place.

[KaleidoskopicVision]

Originally Posted by LostMyMap

The only thing that posting a link to lmgtfy.com lends credibility to is the idea that you are being a jerk. But even that didn't work out so well, when you follow that link, on the first page are several links to sites that in fact, dispel that tin-foil-hat story. Oh well, nice try.

In any case so what. We also sent lots of raw materials to Japan in the 30s and they turned around and made war with it. You never gave something to someone who later screwed you over? You got nothing.

Do I have to dig up the documents showing how the U.S. government was blatantly negligent to the obvious signs that Al Qaeda was planning an attack, by hijacking commercial aircraft no less? It's not like this was the first time the U.S. had to deal with terrorism so why didn't they respond appropriately? This isn't just a simple case of giving funding to someone who turns around and screws you with your own money. There was blatant negligence, CIA operatives training Al Qaeda members, seemingly willful ignorance of the radical nature of the group, the fake Osama videos, the Pakistani news sources reporting Osama's death in 2001... the evidence that we funded the guy is there alright and though the evidence that there was either vast amounts of stupidity at work or highly malicious intent isn't apparent (and why would it be? such blatant evidence would be actively suppressed) many more pieces of this puzzle hint to this not being as simple as an evil terrorist attacks the U.S. for no reason. Something isn't right with the whole thing.

I'm not being a jerk by telling you to do your own research either. You had a short but hardly simple request so I gave you a short and simple reply because I don't feel up to pulling out all the stops right now.

[Michael Chui]

Originally Posted by beast

is it in bad taste to be pleased at the knowledge that a fellow human being is dead? Or is it okay to whip out the bubbly?

I actually wonder the same thing. I felt really ambivalent as I read about people cheering and being all nationalistic about his death. There's something... wrong about it. Can't put my finger on it. I can't say we shouldn't be pleased, but I also kinda feel like we shouldn't.