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Old 04-21-2011, 12:20 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I don't even know what to say about this.

The kid is wearing a diaper. He is socially and emotionally underdeveloped. Exploited by his brother, with a mother who doesn't know how to help him...

His school, if he goes to one, probably isn't much help either.

I don't think his mother can afford any professional help for this kid.

He has more videos in his channel. In one video, he does a Q&A where he answers questions in the comment section.

Basically, he is 10 years old, with ADHD and another mental illness.

How do you feel when you watch this video, and what advice would you give to the mother?
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Old 04-21-2011, 01:03 AM   #2 (permalink)
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This saddens me to be honest. I cannot offer any advice other than my blessing to the family.

I ask any and all beings to help this family out with their unfortunate circumstance. Thank you!

This is one area where I will feel "down" easily. I love children I suppose...
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Old 04-21-2011, 08:17 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I just see despair in his mother's eyes. My heart goes out to her. It sounds like he has been evaluated and nobody can figure out what is going on with him. They live in Canada, I would think they could get better care for him there than in the U.S.

I don't see that the brother is exploiting him. At first I was like "how could he upload this video" But this is what these people are dealing with daily!! It seems like the system has failed them and maybe the brother just doesn't know what else to do.

I sent the brother a message asking if the child can be put in an institution or if they can get some type of respite care.
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Old 04-21-2011, 09:59 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Wow, I had a totally different reaction, Rawxstacy. I felt like the mother and the brother's behaviour was exacerbating and provoking the child's problems. If the kid needs counselling, the mother and brother need it just as much, if not more.

The mother seemed cold and dispassionate, more worried about what the neighbours would think than about her own child's obvious distress. She deals with him by threats and harsh words. The brother was provoking the kid, laughing at him, lying repeatedly about turning the camera off and being no help. He titled his own damn video 'Fat Kid Rages Hard.' Jesus.

The mother needs some parenting help STAT, and the older brother needs to go live with his dad until the situation with the little boy is stabilised. That's a nice little apartment, with good furniture, piles of books, a Tiffany Lamp and fresh flowers and new appliances. There's no shortage of money there.

I saw so much terror and frustration in that boy. A kid crying out to be heard. That's what breaks my heart.
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That made me cry. Thanks.
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Old 04-21-2011, 10:40 AM   #6 (permalink)
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Wow, I had a totally different reaction, Rawxstacy. I felt like the mother and the brother's behaviour was exacerbating and provoking the child's problems. If the kid needs counselling, the mother and brother need it just as much, if not more.

The mother seemed cold and dispassionate, more worried about what the neighbours would think than about her own child's obvious distress. She deals with him by threats and harsh words. The brother was provoking the kid, laughing at him, lying repeatedly about turning the camera off and being no help. He titled his own damn video 'Fat Kid Rages Hard.' Jesus.

The mother needs some parenting help STAT, and the older brother needs to go live with his dad until the situation with the little boy is stabilised. That's a nice little apartment, with good furniture, piles of books, a Tiffany Lamp and fresh flowers and new appliances. There's no shortage of money there.

I saw so much terror and frustration in that boy. A kid crying out to be heard. That's what breaks my heart.
I listened to his explanation of the situation in his other video, so I suppose that's why my outlook is different.

I used to think that people who put their family members in nursing homes must be awful, selfish people. Although there are some people in nursing homes who don't belong there, what I've found since I've worked there is - some people are not able to care for their loved ones the way they need to be cared for.

I agree, all of them need counseling. The mother probably doesn't know how to deal with her child. The kids looks like he's about 10 and he's still in diapers. Mom isn't going to be able to reason with him, like a normal 10 year old.

I'm not mother Theresa, I'm sure if I had to deal with that day in and day out - I'd be burnt out. That's why the state or someone needs to step in and help.

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Old 04-21-2011, 10:58 AM   #7 (permalink)
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Wow, I had a totally different reaction, Rawxstacy. I felt like the mother and the brother's behaviour was exacerbating and provoking the child's problems. If the kid needs counselling, the mother and brother need it just as much, if not more.

The mother seemed cold and dispassionate, more worried about what the neighbours would think than about her own child's obvious distress. She deals with him by threats and harsh words. The brother was provoking the kid, laughing at him, lying repeatedly about turning the camera off and being no help. He titled his own damn video 'Fat Kid Rages Hard.' Jesus.

The mother needs some parenting help STAT, and the older brother needs to go live with his dad until the situation with the little boy is stabilised. That's a nice little apartment, with good furniture, piles of books, a Tiffany Lamp and fresh flowers and new appliances. There's no shortage of money there.

I saw so much terror and frustration in that boy. A kid crying out to be heard. That's what breaks my heart.
I'm with you on this one. The brother and the mother should be ashamed, they were provoking the boy, especially the brother. The mother should of told the son to "really turn it off", ...not "don't make it so obvious that your filming him".

The kids obviously struggling. I also heard the brothers responses, "yes he is my brother unfortunately"...like really? I saw part of the other video, the brother is teasing him, and wanting to get a rise out it. I don't see the older brother acting that much differently to his brother actually.

Absolutely appalling.

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Old 04-21-2011, 01:28 PM   #8 (permalink)
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That made me cry. Thanks.
I'm sorry. I had an emotional response too while watching the video.
I just wanted people to be aware of certain problems within families and how helpless people can act.

I think the family tried to help at first, but now they seem to be in a state of complete burn-out. They probably have been led to believe that the child (Christopher) has no hope, so now they are merely trying to cope dealing with his emotional problems, instead of seeing a way to solve it, because they can't.

The mother was sending mixed messages. In the beginning of the video, she whispered to the recorder (I had to turn up the volume to hear this) something like, "Don't film him while he's watching." Towards the end when he starts getting extremely out of control is when she tells him to turn it off.
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Old 04-22-2011, 12:29 AM   #9 (permalink)
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Strikes me as awful parenting. Never nice to know your own family is ripping the piss out of you. All that kid wanted for 7 mins was for his brother not to film him in order to laugh at him. Good one responsible mum - siding with the older brother and making that weak, feeble, poor kid feel like crap....

Seriously, seems like an incompetent and weak parent who doesn't respect or love the kid. The kid has lost trust and respect back, but is now too weak and self-loathing and is getting left in an almighty mess.

In the UK social services as well as medical professionals would have been heavily involved in this kid's life. I will be utterly amazed - and appalled - if it's just this family (and incompetent Mum) with the state basically absent. In which case, for god's sake you need standards and rules to protect children from evil half-wits like this family.

I'm not saying take the kid away (without a proper assessment), but he probably needs specialised 1-on-1 teaching at school, for example, and/or to be in a special class that is small in number. And to have extra sessions with professionals, and for people to visit the home to make sure the parent is capable and is not neglecting/harming/abusing the child.

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IMO this kid is exhibiting behavior of a child abuse victim.
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I'm with you on this one. The brother and the mother should be ashamed, they were provoking the boy, especially the brother. The mother should of told the son to "really turn it off", ...not "don't make it so obvious that your filming him".

The kids obviously struggling. I also heard the brothers responses, "yes he is my brother unfortunately"...like really? I saw part of the other video, the brother is teasing him, and wanting to get a rise out it. I don't see the older brother acting that much differently to his brother actually.

Absolutely appalling.
Yeah, I picked up on that as well. The mother was just as into laughing and humiliating the boy as the brother was, which is appauling. And she was more worried about what the neighbours think than her sons dignity and feelings. Totally shameful.

They're both control freaks with no regard for peoples feelings...except their own I'd vouch for. I'm sure they wouldn't like it if someone treated them in the same way.

Just another day in paradise for some poor kid somewhere. Some people shouldn't have kids, or at least be sent to parent school.
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I listened to his explanation of the situation in his other video, so I suppose that's why my outlook is different.
So did I, and I still think he is a douche of the highest order.

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I come from quite a different culture, so I don't have this perspective. I assume nursing care is the last option for most people, who will exhaust themselves before choosing that. Not that it is actually a bad option. This case, I don't think falls into that category. There appears to be spare money and this does not appear to be a particularly enlightened environment. It's the family that needs more work, not the kid.
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So did I, and I still think he is a douche of the highest order.
Yeah I listend to his explanation too, and he is a douche. I have no sympathy for him whatsoever.
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Perhaps I'm the cynic here...but I highly suspect that those vids will have ads on them once they become popular.
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I thought the mother was doing the best she could we don't know what its like live there the kid could be like that several hours everyday.

At first I thought is the kid could a bit autistic. I seen something on Dr. Phil where they teach kids to have practice having tantrums before they get upset so learn how to cope with feelings and dissipate the overload before it builds up.
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Am I the only one who is suspecting this child has undiagnosed Aspergers syndrome?

Either way, Child protective services needs to be involved, because, from my perspective the Brother (the camera man) is clearly mentally traumatizing the Boy.
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The newer videos reveal more about the family dynamics:
YouTube - The Strike 2 / Fat Kid Rages Again
She tries to change his diaper in this video.

YouTube - Fat Kid Minitage 2
I don't even know what this is about. Obvious tension is heard though:
"You stink and you've got PISS" - mother
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