New Zodiac

[Plays With Life]

Any thoughts/opinions on the new Zodiac?

New Zodiac Signs? | ZODIAC
YouTube - New Zodiac Changes Horoscopes
New Zodiac includes 13th sign now

Has your sign changed on the new Zodiac?

>Astronomers suggest an overhaul in the process of defining horoscope on the basis of one's birth date as the earth's position vis-a-vis the sun and other stars has changed since the astrological signs were determined over 2,000 years ago.

[Lionman]

It's not actually new, it's called the sidereal zodiac. It's the Hindu way of doing charts and they've been doing it for God knows how long so there's always been these two zodiacs. The sidereal zodiac is less focused on the psychological like western astrology, but more so on the predictive side.

[mikej]

I was a Capricorn but now I'm a Sagittarius according to that. So I've gone from being reliable to unreliable.

Sounds about right

[royster]

The only attention I pay to such "news trends" is admitting they annoy the flock outta me. It's sad that the mainstream media can initiate such beliefs, and the public immediately follows like sheep, without question, instantly adding it to their 'reality'. I find it to be similar to simply downloading a virus on purpose, because 'authorities' have told you it's a new program.

[Richful]

Rob Brezny's response to this was that Astrology has not been based on the Constellations for a long time and that this "observation" by astronomers keeps popping up every decade or so. It's there way of saying "Ha ha you guys are wrong".

As I understand it he explains that the 12 signs are more of a classification system depending on where the planets are compared to your position in the solar system at birth. The acutal constellations themselves are not relevant. The Signs are a classification guide, originally based on the constellation system. Astrologers have been aware of the inconsistency for several hundred years...

[insanezenmistress]

Ophiuchus: Nov 29 to Dec 17


um, i am not even sure i can pronounce this.....but thats what they want to call me....

O-phow-kus... O-phike-yous.. O-phuh-kus.....??? cant be the latter, that just isnt right.

[spacecadetglow]

Originally Posted by royster

The only attention I pay to such "news trends" is admitting they annoy the flock outta me. It's sad that the mainstream media can initiate such beliefs, and the public immediately follows like sheep, without question, instantly adding it to their 'reality'. I find it to be similar to simply downloading a virus on purpose, because 'authorities' have told you it's a new program.

Much agreed, Roy!

[Curtis2011]

I don't pay much attention to anything related to the Zodiac signs, so honestly I just don't care.

[James81]

No, your zodiac sign hasn't changed – This Just In - CNN.com Blogs

It will be interesting to see how the people who truly believe their astrological sign has changed...how they change with it.

The link above talks about how it hasn't really changed.

So, if I could observe someone who was, say, an Aquarius who is now like a Saggitarius or something, I'd love to see how their life changes just by BELIEVING their astrological sign has changed.

[mikej]

What's interesting to me is how defensive certain people become when their core beliefs are challenged.

[supertom]

Originally Posted by Curtis2011

I don't pay much attention to anything related to the Zodiac signs, so honestly I just don't care.

Than why come into the thread and make a post, couldnt you have ignored it if you dont care which is the same statement

[Rose of Cairo]

I always thought astrology was plain BS. I could never relate in any way to my sign (Capricorn). My boyfriend was nothing like a Gemini either.

According to the new signs I am a Sagittarius, and that I can really relate to! And my sweetheart is a Taurus, which seems to describe him very well.

So, I might change my mind about astrology being BS.

[Curtis2011]

Originally Posted by supertom

Than why come into the thread and make a post, couldnt you have ignored it if you dont care which is the same statement

Lol. Good question.

I don't dismiss astrology as BS, I just don't pay attention to it. For any Dr Hawkins fans in here, Hawkins calibrated astrology in one of his books and it calibrated above 200, so I take it that that means there is some truth to it.

In the past I have read the description of Gemini, which is my sign, and it was pretty accurate. But lately I have just not been paying attention to astrology stuff.

[supertom]

Originally Posted by Curtis2011

Lol. Good question.

I don't dismiss astrology as BS, I just don't pay attention to it. For any Dr Hawkins fans in here, Hawkins calibrated astrology in one of his books and it calibrated above 200, so I take it that that means there is some truth to it.

In the past I have read the description of Gemini, which is my sign, and it was pretty accurate. But lately I have just not been paying attention to astrology stuff.

I've looked up his ratings on various things also disappointed with his calibration of doreen virtue and abraham hicks. But seth speaks got a decent rating.

Im not really into it either but the descriptions i've read by athena starwoman were good. I'm told that to have any decent accuracy you need to know your birth-chart (hard for me since I was born on a island )otherwise its kind of pointless....pop-astrology

[Lakshyayidhi Lakshmihi]

Originally Posted by Plays With Life

Any thoughts/opinions on the new Zodiac?

New Zodiac Signs? | ZODIAC
YouTube - New Zodiac Changes Horoscopes
New Zodiac includes 13th sign now

Has your sign changed on the new Zodiac?

>Astronomers suggest an overhaul in the process of defining horoscope on the basis of one's birth date as the earth's position vis-a-vis the sun and other stars has changed since the astrological signs were determined over 2,000 years ago.

The astronomer who recently refuted the astrological signs is not an astrologist, so he didn't understand the fundamentals of astrology.

Western astrology is focused on the movements of the planets in our own solar system within a zone of influence defined by the relationship between the Earth and Sun. Not distant constellations.

[Lionman]

Originally Posted by Rose of Cairo

I always thought astrology was plain BS. I could never relate in any way to my sign (Capricorn). My boyfriend was nothing like a Gemini either.

According to the new signs I am a Sagittarius, and that I can really relate to! And my sweetheart is a Taurus, which seems to describe him very well.

So, I might change my mind about astrology being BS.

Sometimes your Sun sign doesn't describe you very well because your ascendant doesn't have access to it in the chart. Your ascendant is the manifestation of your ego, and unless your ego has access to the higher potentials in your chart, you won't see these potentials manifest in your life.

You could have a Sagittarius ascendant or your ruling planet could be in Sagittarius. Or the 9th house (bares characteristics of Sagittarius) could be predominant.

I agree that just knowing your sun sign and calling that astrology is BS. It falls down much of the time.

[Rose of Cairo]

Originally Posted by Lionman

Sometimes your Sun sign doesn't describe you very well because your ascendant doesn't have access to it in the chart. Your ascendant is the manifestation of your ego, and unless your ego has access to the higher potentials in your chart, you won't see these potentials manifest in your life.

You could have a Sagittarius ascendant or your ruling planet could be in Sagittarius. Or the 9th house (bares characteristics of Sagittarius) could be predominant.

Sounds complicated! But you got me interested now.

What determines whether my ascendant has access to my Sun sign in the chart or not?

How do I know what my ascendant is, and all the other things you mentioned?

[Lionman]

If your ascendant sign makes an aspect to your Sun, then there's an energy interaction. Like if your Ascendant is at 25 degrees of Sagitarius and your Sun is at 24 degrees of Aries then there would be a "trine" angle formed of 119 degrees between them, which basically means your manifested ego receives the energy of the Sun in a beneficial way. But if in the same example your Sun was in say 10 degrees of Capricorn, then there would be no relevant angle formed between the Sun and your manifested ego, so you would not receive the energies of the Sun.

But that's an over simplification.

You can receive the Sun (or any other planet) by angle interactions to your ascendant like above. Or by your ruling planet. If your ascendant is Sagittarius, then your ruling planet, the most important planet in the chart, is Jupiter. Because Sagittarius is ruled by Jupiter. If Jupiter receives the Sun then you feel that knock-on effect through to your Ascendant.

If you were a Leo ascendant you would feel more of your Capricorn Sun.. because Leo is ruled by the Sun so that would be your ruling planet.

To get your full chart you need your time of birth, accurate to about 5 minutes ideally.

[Rose of Cairo]

Wow, for an oversimplification that is pretty darn complicated.

I was born on January 19th, 1979 at 2:30 am local time in South France, is that precise enough? Can you tell me all these things?

[Lionman]

You're a Scorpio ascendant with Uranus very close to the ascendant. Uranus adds eccentricity, uniqueness and individuality to the way you are and come across. Venus is in Sagittarius and also in your first house, which adds some Sagittarian quality to your nature, e.g. frankness, fun, especially in the arena of romance since it's Venus. However, Venus is dampened by Saturn which is exerting a somber influence from the 11th house, adding some seriousness/heaviness of some kind about friends and groups. Friends and groups are very important as well since you have your Moon in Libra in the 11th house, which gives you a flair for socializing and also several planets in the 3rd house which suggests you have a gift for communicating and speaking.

Also there's aspects from Jupiter the planet of benevolence, in Leo in the 9th house suggesting travel and foreign cultures.

Secondary ruling planet Pluto, is in the 12th house in a tight sextile angle to Neptune in the 2nd house suggesting idealism, illusions, spirituality or dissolution surrounding possessions and money.

There's a lot more of course, this is just what I saw at first. I've studied my chart for years and I'm always finding deeper and new things.

[Rose of Cairo]

Uhh, wow..!

Thank you.

[Lionman]

No problem. btw here's your chart. The sign on the left with AC next to it is your ascendant sign. The signs are on the outside of the wheel, the inner wheel divisions are the houses and the symbols inside are the planets. The lines are the angels formed between the planets, some stronger than others due to the tightness of the angles which can be seen in the table below the chart.

[SimpleSky]

Im still the same sign!? That's dissappointing, I wanted to give another sign a chance to get my personality right. I'm still Ares.

[Rose of Cairo]

Lionman, how precise must the location be? I was not born in Marseille, actually I was born quite far away from Marseille.

And, what are the houses exactly?

[Excellent Lodestar]

Originally Posted by Rose of Cairo

Lionman, how precise must the location be? I was not born in Marseille, actually I was born quite far away from Marseille.

And, what are the houses exactly?

I suspected that; the "South of France" is too broad an area to guess on the City.

...So what city/town were you born in?...yes, i makes a difference...

[NDN Scholar]

Originally Posted by Rose of Cairo

Uhh, wow..!

Thank you.

Yeah, it's making my head tickle, too!

[Rose of Cairo]

I was born in a very small village called Cubières sur Cinoble. The closest cities/towns are Carcassonne or Perpignan. They are about equally far away, both about one hour from where I was born.

[BillyTheAdult]

Originally Posted by Curtis2011

Lol. Good question.

I don't dismiss astrology as BS, I just don't pay attention to it. For any Dr Hawkins fans in here, Hawkins calibrated astrology in one of his books and it calibrated above 200, so I take it that that means there is some truth to it.

In the past I have read the description of Gemini, which is my sign, and it was pretty accurate. But lately I have just not been paying attention to astrology stuff.

Yea I don't really pay attention to it either, but I see how it could have an affect on people. Like if it was summer or winter when you were born, how would that not affect you. The same way you would experience life differently if you were born in NYC as opposed to Long Beach Ca.

[Excellent Lodestar]

Thank God for Software....That is one small Village...
I would look at the current Brazil Location(city) as well before I made any comments here. Obviously, we could talk about this chart forever; need to ask a specific question that you have to narrow the focus--human lives are infinite in scope.

[Lionman]

Originally Posted by Rose of Cairo

Lionman, how precise must the location be? I was not born in Marseille, actually I was born quite far away from Marseille.

And, what are the houses exactly?

Ok that changes your ascendant/house-positions by about 2 degrees which doesn't change much but is key when delving deeper into the chart like looking at aspects to the angles.

The houses are basically areas of someone's life. Your ascendant is the sign on the eastern horizon when you were born, so it's literally rising like the Sun rises from the east every morning. The rest of the Sky and below the horizon is then divided based on the rising sign into the various houses.

The first house is your Ascendant, the second house is what supports your ascendant e.g. money, possessions... the 7th house is the opposite of your ascendant e.g. partnerships...

*edit* I use the equal house system Lodestar uses another, but they both have their place.