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Old 03-28-2008, 05:11 PM
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why are the muslims always the guilty party?
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why are the muslims always the guilty party?
Why are 99 percent of the terrorist attacks in the World committed by Muslims?
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I would dedicate most of our defense budget to the building of a bunch of Vertical Farms and make all the resulting crops free for US citizens.

You could just go to the local VF and pick the fruit right off the vine.
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I would dedicate most of our defense budget to the building of a bunch of Vertical Farms and make all the resulting crops free for US citizens.

You could just go to the local VF and pick the fruit right off the vine.
That is the most refreshing thing I've read in ages. Although I did read Karl Marx's Communist Manifesto yesterday and that was quite refreshing too. I just wonder, as with communism whether pacifism can work in a world of such hostility, fixed ideologies and greed. :/
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This has happened in the U.S. before, but with pirates/guerillas instead of arabs. The only thing that is different and shocking about 9/11 is that two big buildings fell down. Death is tragic either way you look at it.

The solution to such a problem already exists.

Marquis of Reprisal.

A constitutional doctrine that authorizes targeting ONLY those directly responsible for the attack.

You arrest or kill those responsible with a small band of elite soldiers whilst repairing the damage here at home.

*cough, cough*
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*cough, cough*
can i get you a glass of water?
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I always thought that you were pro free market
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Rejoin the United Kingdom, for goodness sake.
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Rejoin the United Kingdom, for goodness sake.
Aw, I'm English, you don't really mean that do you? :P
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So some radical muslim group just attacked your major city, and thousands of people died. How do you respond?

We've heard a lot about what should not be done; what is the right thing to do?
For starters, befriend the Muslim community in the US. The vast majority of them hate those nutjobs for bringing the name of Islam into disrepute. Do all you can to undermine terrorist claims that this is a 'Holy War' between Islam and the West. Trivia fact: the countries with the highest percentage of Muslims are Mauritania, Somalia, Western Sahara and the Maldives - countries not renowned as hotbeds of global terrorism.

Be accountable for your nation's actions. Terrorists have - sometimes legitimate - grievances with US policy. At the moment they can point and say "The world turns a blind eye to US injustices - the only recourse is violence!". Come out and say "sorry" for genuine injustices committed by the US and make reparations. Say "We have done wrong in the past, we're willing to admit it and we want to make things right".

Build up the standard of living in the 3rd world. Give them a fair price for their goods and labour. Don't squeeze every possible dollar out of them - a stable world is worth more in the long run. Poor countries filled with desperate, resentful people are superb recruiting grounds for terrorists.

Sort out the whole Israel/Palestine thing. The only solution I can currently see is to merge Israel and Palestine into one nation with all citizens given equal rights. Yes, much easier said than done but Palestine got a raw deal, and as long as it's smarting there'll be conflict.

Go after the individuals responsible for the attack. If the country or countries harbouring them are reluctant to turn them over, bring international pressure to bear through diplomatic channels. Don't declare war on a country because a few dozen individuals in it attacked yours.

That should do for starters.
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1. Disband the senate.
2. Quit.

And as for befriending Muslims, instead of increasing pressure and hatred by blocking all communication channels from that part of the globe. Why not do the opposite? Let's hear what these people want for God's sake. I know the republicans (the right-wing over here) have this huge, and completely stupid "we don't do deals with terrorists" thing (which is exactly why they're attacking you in the first place you nuggets). It's too obvious these people are angry for economical not religious reasons. Give them a platform, have their manifesto published in the papers with the widest circulation. Listening to what they want to say doesn't mean agreeing to it. Let's just at least hear it. Oh go on, I want to. I'm sick of the news showing pictures but never telling us about what they're saying. Only ever giving our side of the story. You'd think it was cowboys and Indians over again? There is a huge apology going out to all Native Americans now for how they've been treated historically. Now you're doing the same thing again! The only news is that now you've got missiles to kill Indians in a foreign country? What is it with America and Indian killing? Leave their country alone you freaks. It's their oil not yours, get over it.

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Why are 99 percent of the terrorist attacks in the World committed by Muslims?
Does that include the millions of innocent people that the US & Israel have killed, or is it only terrorism when our people die?

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So some radical muslim group just attacked your major city, and thousands of people died. How do you respond?

We've heard a lot about what should not be done; what is the right thing to do?
Before being irrational I would have a full intelligence investigation and an independent one as well. After they find conclusive evidence on who was responsible for the attack, I would organize covert special forces operations to sabotage them, start rebellions from within, and eventually break up the terrorist group responsible.
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I always thought that you were pro free market
Hmmm. I haven't quite reconciled a free market philosophy with all of our recent advancements in technology.

If you're referring to Ron Paul, it wasn't just his free market stuff I liked. It was that he would have decriminalized drug possession, stopped the US interventionist foreign policies, ended government subsidies for massive factory farms, done his genuine best to restore value to our failing currency, etc. No other candidate came close to making a commitment to solve as many real problems as he did.

How exactly would a free market system handle an automated agricultural system?
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"Get me Jack Bauer....NOW."
That's what I'm talking about!
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How do we know "they" (Osama, muslims, whomever...) were the ones that orchastrated the 9/11 attacks and all the other "terrorist" events over the years? Check out Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind! for a different perspective. Watch the movie TERRORSTORM and it will open your eyes and make you see things in a different light. All is not as it seems. Conspiracy theory......maybe.....we will never know though! But you can either be one of the sheeple with blinders on or an informed person....your choice.
Also check out "Loose Change" and "Zeitgeist". Both can be found at google video. Are we pointing the finger in the right direction? Get all the information then make a decision. Blessings!
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So some radical muslim group just attacked your major city, and thousands of people died. How do you respond?

We've heard a lot about what should not be done; what is the right thing to do?
We would first need to identify the enemy, then take appropriate actions to engage the enemy. I don't know if liberating the Iraqis was the right course of action.

I'm sure there are a lot of people who are Muslims who want nothing more than to raise their families in peace and prosperity. But we are not talking about them. We are talking about radicals.

Radical Islam is not just anti-American, they want to destroy all who are not Muslim. They will even attack Muslims who do not share their views and ideals.

Radical Islam is waging wars across the globe. Muslim governments engage in genocide against black Humanists in Africa. They are fighting in Asia, Europe, Malasia and the South Pacific as well.

They do not tolerate or respect the beliefs of others, not Jews, not Christians, not Humanists, no one. You cannot go to an Islamic country and enjoy the same liberties you would in free western societies.
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From the day the President takes office he's whisked here and there and has a lot of people in his ear. Before the Iraq war some "think tanks" featuring some of the smartest scientists, staticians and strategists gave predictions and consultations to Bush and his cabinet.

These "think tanks" are often private groups....

If I were President I would hope that the facts being gathered for me by the various agencies were credible. It turns out they are not...

I created a thread discussing this..
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People in America are just 1/5 of world population but they are spending more than 30 percent of complete world energy. There are so many hungry mouths around the globe but Americans don't want to lower their standards. They want to drive their cars and use cheap oil, have much more money than they really need. And trying to prove them that they are wrong would be fatal for me as a president .
As others stated the US is about 5% of the world population but consume 30% of the world's energy. This point I'm with you on...

As for the hungry mouths but American's not wanting to lower their standards this is a very very stupid comment. America gives more proportionately than Croatia does. Americans gave, per capita, three and a half times as much to causes and charities as the French, seven times as much as the Germans, and 14 times as much as the Italians.

I guess if America were poor and hungry we'd use less energy. Only problem is that you wouldn't be there for us would you Placebo? You can post on blogs about other's greed but how much did you donate to charity this year? Do you have a car? Well you obviously have a computer. Hypocrit
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Americans gave, per capita, three and a half times as much to causes and charities as the French, seven times as much as the Germans, and 14 times as much as the Italians.
Just because you have privatised giving money to charitible causes doesn't mean that you give more than Europeans. In Germany the state pays for more charitible causes which makes people pay indirectly through taxes for them.
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