On deaths of top (SWINE FLU) microbiologist

[bman]

Someone deleted my thread but I will post my reply here.

Originally Posted by blossom

What good would a world full of dead people be to a handful of psychopaths who could end up dying themselves from whatever bioweapon might be released into the atmosphere?

I mean the whole hollywood image of some little poindexter power-crazed suit, sitting in his chateu somewhere sipping Chivas and puffing on a cuban cigar going "MMmwwaaa-a-a-a-a-aaa-aa-a-aah"...makes you wonder...are they really so stupid as to go through with that and lose their power base...i.e US. There'd be no more people to control and therefore no more power!

It's more the FEAR that they get off watching everyone in a state of...if everyones dead there'd be noone to scare!

You're not getting the big picture.


1. Please get rid of your indoctrination you're born with.

2. Think of reality, the world just between you and nature.

3. You only need what the earth gives you, nothing else really.

4. You believe you are the chosen one and the earth's resources should only belong to your kind and those intelligent enough deserve it.


It's not about money. It's about power and resource.


The earth's resources should only be given to deserving smart people of their kind and everyone else is just a leech and useless eater.


Eugenics... is the name of the game.

Many of you people are not thinking out of the box. Your thoughts are maintained within the 'system' that you're indoctrinated with that's why you never see beyond the 'monetary' and 'economic' or financial slavery you were indoctrinated and born with.


WHY YOU SHOULD YOU PAY TO LIVE ON THE PLANET YOU'RE BORN IN?

The only real thing is YOU and NATURE. Everything else is illusion created by man. Virtual wealth and controlled science studies/publications.

Real knowledge, the harmony between you and nature has been suppressed and that ancient knowledge/wisdom is denied to you in a sea of material distraction and man-made religions worshipping alien/extra-terrestial gods under the abrahamic faiths.

Before man discovered space, and writing was new, the only way to describe these technological higher beings are words like GODS, GOD, satan to describe the political factions within these ETs.

That's why GODS are always from the SKY/HEAVEN, or known as SKY GODS in many religious cultures. When man discovered space, and the billions of stars/planets/galaxy/solar system in the universe, that is when those who are open minded would see the 'GODS' for who they really are, nothing more than advanced civilization rated according to the kardashev scale

Kardashev scale - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Type 2 at least in Ancient times. History has been erased to keep mankind imprisoned mentally and spiritually.


The gods you worship are not the universal Creator. You worship extra-terrestials with high tech toys, who are jealous, vain and egoistic, and also cruel (therefore the great flood using technology). Ancient ruins in India are found and highly radioactive. (Nukes are not new, but ancient tech where supposed 'gods' wiped each other because of politics where one side brand the other as Satanic.


GOD is not the same as the Universal Creator. Your GODS call themselves gods because they want to be worshipped and want to control you, but they're as mortal as you and I. They just have nice toys to make you obey and believe. Their souls are as much part of the Universal Creator as your souls are.



Man is spiritually decayed, deceived by those who know the ancient knowledge/wisdom and power of spirituality within.

That's why many many sheeples cannot see outside of the material/virtual system of wealth created for them.

You're taught that your world view is real, and that you're smart, but actually you're not. You're just human cattle, and when they're done playing with you, and think there's too many of you to be worth managing and there's not enough of precious earth resources to go around, they will start cutting you down like farmers culling sheeps because you're too expensive and resource draining to feed/keep alive. They've done it before.

It's called the GREAT FLOOD. Every culture/religion acknowledges this great flood.

Think outside of the box. You're not as smart as you think you are.

Religion is as much a sham as the economic/financial system, the illusions created to manipulate your spiritual powers of believe system to make things happen for those in control of you and your believes system.


Money is not needed at all because the FED can print as much as they like.

Think outside of the monetary/economic system.


But of course most won't because the truth shatters their foundations of reality. They prefer not to know than to know and relearn their true origins and potential.

[seeker5]

I deleted your thread because your OP either infringed on copyright or had no clear linkable notice that it did not. I sent you a private messages about it. Please check your other private messages and let me know your response to them.

[blossom]

You don't know what I believe! How could you , you never ASKED me...you are making just as many assumptions as you are telling us all not to make!

Personally I don't worship ANY one or any god for that matter, because I don't believe in placing anyone on a pedestal...and quite a few people here are interested in reaching their potential and learning how to disconnect from external validation and seeking true knowledge within, so how bout stepping off your intergalactic soap box, and letting people work stuff out for themselves in their own way and their own time... or not!

[Pause]

bman, where do you get these ideas? Are you actively browsing the net for articles that fit into your belief system?

I don´t mean to be disrespectful, sorry if it sounds like it.
Can you still sleep at night? If you believe everything (or even part of) the stuff you´ve been posting on these boards ... I can´t help it, I get the image of someone sitting either in a dark, private room or moving only in crowded, public places and permanently looking over his / her shoulder.

So, again, where do you get your information?

[blossom]

From the Intergalactic federation of course Sorry, but it's just funny, as soon as I stopped frying my brain with acid and weed and every other drug I could get my hands on in my twenties...these things just ceased to make any sense whatsoever!

Now I do believe that anything is possible, I just have a VERY hard time with all this reptilian ****! It's possible of course, but it just sounds so silly...when you're NOT on drugs that is...when you are on drugs the silliest things can all of a sudden make perfect sense.

[bman]

Originally Posted by Pause

bman, where do you get these ideas? Are you actively browsing the net for articles that fit into your belief system?

I don´t mean to be disrespectful, sorry if it sounds like it.
Can you still sleep at night? If you believe everything (or even part of) the stuff you´ve been posting on these boards ... I can´t help it, I get the image of someone sitting either in a dark, private room or moving only in crowded, public places and permanently looking over his / her shoulder.

So, again, where do you get your information?

I sleep well at night, no problems and I don't look over my shoulder. I study things with open mindedness from all angles. I study religious sources of info, science sources of info, and from all sources of info you can pick out the stuff from there and form a pretty clear picture of what's really going on.

Most people bend towards either religion or atheistic science only.


I believe in a universal creator because intelligent design is undeniable, but I do not subscribe to an organized belief system such as God/Gods or any abrahamic faith that spews violence for non-believers and condemns those outside their circle to hell. The science theory behind the big bang correlates well to the light theory of certain religion, but inside the knowledge, there're many man-corrupted doctrines that stirs you away from your spiritual potential through fear, lies, manipulation and vanity/ego of the GOD's desire you worship only him and no other gods. This is purely politics within the self appointed 'divine' powers who're nothing more than ego/vain Extra Terrestial gods from the sky (Space/galaxy).

The consciousness of a soul is a very powerful thing. That is the secret to a person's existence.

Your belief system can affect things around you, the energy around you, but you have to realize you have that potential/power spiritually.

The problem is the people in the know (your GOD/GODS and also Satan, all part of the same group of manipulative advanced ETs who're neither completely good or completely evil), abused this power within you by making you put your personal responsibility and belief system in their hands.

How did they do that? Through

1. Religion.
2. Economic slavery/Financial system.
3. Food and Medicine.
4. Education.


By manipulating your soul, through manipulating your believes, they basically get you to do what they want. The ancient knowledge of spiritually have been hidden away or discredited by mainstream science/media owned through the octopus arms of these religious appointed custodians/brotherhoods of these false god/gods.

Science would never explore the spirituality aspect of the universe.

The religion created by your manipulators would never explore the logical side of the universe.

They've been separated to confuse you, and you're spiritually decayed by the believe system they created for you.

To seek the universal creator you must look within yourself, and not externally to an organized source which can manipulate you.

The god/gods/demons/satan are really no different than you as they're also part of the universal creator, except they've been playing gods and confusing you with their man-made mumbo-jumbo called the Bible, Quran, Torah/Talmud.

[bman]

Originally Posted by blossom

From the Intergalactic federation of course Sorry, but it's just funny, as soon as I stopped frying my brain with acid and weed and every other drug I could get my hands on in my twenties...these things just ceased to make any sense whatsoever!

Now I do believe that anything is possible, I just have a VERY hard time with all this reptilian shite! It's possible of course, but it just sounds so silly...when you're NOT on drugs that is...when you are on drugs the silliest things can all of a sudden make perfect sense.

Bible/Quran/Torah must make very perfect sense as well eh ?

Nobody claims anything about reptilians but if you wanna go there then you cannot deny many religions talk about serpent races and beings from the sky.

Do your own research. You wanna discredit this type of info, you should question the various cultures/sources in religious texts that mentions them as well.

Ever check why the AMA's logo is a serpent pair ?


If you studied religious text/book properly, they're the biggest source of serpent/reptilian literature.


Sometimes what is amazing is people find it easy to believe a non-provable omnipotent god but laughs at extra-terrestial civilization's existence which is more scientifically plausible to explain these 'gods' when writing was at an early age. If these 'gods' appear today we would have no problem identifying them using scientific methodologies.

This reminds me of a joke of pot laughing at the kettle for being black.

[bman]

Here you go, for those GOD believers.


YouTube - "god is not good": teaching god Ethics (God on Trial)

[bman]

For those curious on Ancient evidence of Extra Terrestial GODS, enjoy watching this.

History Channel presents: Ancient Aliens (2009) | SIGH7INGS - UFO and ET Video Magazine

[blossom]

Ah, as I said I don't believe in any omnipotent God, only Source and the God within and in all things, which needs no worship, it just IS...and the serpent is an ancient symbol all right, it has various meanings also depending on a persons culture. Why does it automatically mean it stemmed from an ancient race of reptiles? Conspiracy theorist have a talent for making things mean what they want it to mean to fit in with their THEORIES! A theory is just a theory...it isn't Truth it's just a possibility.

[Pause]

Originally Posted by bman

...
Your belief system can affect things around you, the energy around you, but you have to realize you have that potential/power spiritually.
...

While I can not agree to your other statements, I like the above quoted part. We perceive reality (whatever that may be) through the lense of our belief systems.

You state your believe in a universal creator, but mock others for their believe in a "non-provable omnipotent god".

Why did you (or we?) as the universal creator (I have yet to understand your point of view on that matter) create those alien / evil / controlling powers to mask themselves as gods and why would that be a bad thing if it stems from "intelligent design"?

[bman]

Originally Posted by blossom

Ah, as I said I don't believe in any omnipotent God...and the serpent is an ancient symbol all right, it has various meanings also depending on a persons culture. Why does it automatically mean it stemmed from an ancient race of reptiles? Conspiracy theorist have a talent for making things mean what they want it to mean to fit in with their THEORIES! A theory is just a theory...it isn't Truth it's just a possibility.

Why do you assume I subscribe to ancient race of reptiles? I do not.

But I do not deny how these believes come from, religious texts.


If you accuse Conspiracy Theorist like that, then the biggest conspiracy theorists are the Bible/Quran believers who have every explaination for god's actions, good or bad.


A theory is just a theory, correct, but the most obvious theory can be easily confirmed, through common sense.

We're all spiritual beings and our conscious intelligence have been corrupted through indoctrination by those in power, on what our realities should be.

If we can filter out those indoctrination and see things from a different perspective, we would understand how it all comes to be.

If conspiracies do not exist, there would be no war, no 911, no religion.

Everything in life is a conspiracy, it's just a matter of whether you notice it or not, and that is influenced by how spiritually decayed you are.

The more spiritually decayed you are, the less you are able to see things in the world for how it really is.


Scientific explaination for religion, most plausible is just that, ET races.

Evidence in archaeology, and common sense would make one see but most would rather not believe or even try to comprehend it.

Watch the 'God on TRial' video, use your spiritual and consciousness logic and you would know how badly manipulated humans are by these so called beings who claim to be GOD/ADONAI/ALLAH.

The closest theory is that of advanced Civilization manipulating humanity.


And only those who have close minds would dismiss this common sense logic as Conspiracy Theory.

[bman]

Originally Posted by Pause

While I can not agree to your other statements, I like the above quoted part. We perceive reality (whatever that may be) through the lense of our belief systems.

You state your believe in a universal creator, but mock others for their believe in a "non-provable omnipotent god".

Why did you (or we?) as the universal creator (I have yet to understand your point of view on that matter) create those alien / evil / controlling powers to mask themselves as gods and why would that be a bad thing if it stems from "intelligent design"?

Because the universal creator might be an entity that does not interfere.

Whoever/whatever of it's creations evolve spiritually above the rest first, would naturally want to manipulate/control those less evolved than them, as a form of entertainment, or out of boredom, or like i said, vanity, ego.


No need to look so far just look at how people behave in an organization where the race to the top is the motivation.

Hierarchy of power/control, manipulation of masses to get what you want but when you no longer are able to control people due to your lack of resources, before they turn on you, you must reduce their numbers to more managable levels, that's how these 'gods' did it, and these 'apocalyptical' scriptures/actions are meant just for that, as a means of depopulation to make humanity more easily manageable to do their bidding. That's why there's this thing called downsizing in a company. You get axed.

Only those they can control and deem of value, they would keep, and use the spiritual powers of those individuals, externalizing them to outside of themselves onto you as a form of worship, giving you more spiritual power, while denying those who worship you, the knowledge of their true spiritual potential.

Energy manipulating other energies.

Humanity got wiped out in apocalyptical times because they found out the truth about their lying gods but somehow, the Gods/ET were angry and so used their high tech toys to wipe out humanity on earth so we start on a clean slate again in stoneage, making sure we continue to be spiritually subservient to them for their own selfish purposes.

The Ancients are not primitive, they have technology and spiritual knowledge that have been denied to us.

[themaster]

Originally Posted by blossom

Conspiracy theorist have a talent for making things mean what they want it to mean to fit in with their THEORIES! A theory is just a theory...it isn't Truth it's just a possibility.

Actually all truths are true.. even bman's version of truth is true.. you can argue against it but you would be wasting your time and in doing so by law of attraction.. attracting said reality..

bman is right.. what I don't understand is why he's hell bent to talk about it

His first statement in this new thread is very negative/lack based..

Going on the idea that everything you said here is true bman and it certainly sounds that way

What is the point of you making statements like this?
Why are you sharing??
you just want people to adopt your truth?

I mean I want to know your motivation if you'll share it.. are you trying to drag people into a negative disempowering reality.. cause that sounds like in a way where your headed?

Or are you trying to empower people to go to a specific better reality?

Care to explain your motivations and yourself?

[blossom]

I guess I thought when you were talking about ET and advanced alien races that you may have been referring to reptilians as well, since they are the latest thing 'n all...my mistake.

Also, I'm a CT from way back, and you know what I found out, that I was spending so much of my own fairly limited reserves of energy getting so worked up over trying to get people to wake up and smell the coffee and see what's going on and realising that most people just don't want to know, that it created alot of frustration and disheartening feelings in me as well as driving me a bit crazy in the process, that I came to the conclusion that, for me I was better off conserving my energy and working on developing my own inner-tuition than wasting my breath on people who were content to live a lie and be part of The Lie!

So this has been my path, purifying and working through my own issues, developing my sensitivity (without drugs), getting people to think but more on a one-to-one basis face to face and only if I feel like the person is open to what I have to say, otherwise it's a waste of my energy and time, getting more in touch with my creativity and pursuing my own ambitions in life and ignoring the rest of the world, news etc. It is all just entertainment to most people anyway, like some sick voyeuristic detached fantasy land they live in.

That is what MY inner-tuition and guides helped me to focus on...so, forgive me for not wanting to get all over zealous about it all with you here. I'm sure you mean well...Good luck with it!

Oh, and I noticed how you switched the focus onto my assumptions, without acknowledging your own there

[bman]

Originally Posted by themaster

Actually all truths are true.. even bman's version of truth is true.. you can argue against it but you would be wasting your time and in doing so by law of attraction.. attracting said reality..

bman is right.. what I don't understand is why he's hell bent to talk about it

His first statement in this new thread is very negative/lack based..

Going on the idea that everything you said here is true bman and it certainly sounds that way

What is the point of you making statements like this?
Why are you sharing??
you just want people to adopt your truth?

I mean I want to know your motivation if you'll share it.. are you trying to drag people into a negative disempowering reality.. cause that sounds like in a way where your headed?

Or are you trying to empower people to go to a specific better reality?

Care to explain your motivations and yourself?

My motivation is to make people think, simple as that.



I do not dwell on negativity or positivities.

I speak what I observe, and if it's negative to you, that's only because your perception of positive/negative is seriously warped.

Remember, good/bad about what I said, it's a matter of beliefs.

If you belief what I said is negative/bad, then it is bad/negative to you.

Others might find my version of explaination to be positive, and so they would improve themselves spiritually based on another path.

Negative/Positive is just a label that resulted from the same indoctrination that has been pumped into your head through education.

I never consider my knowledge to be negative. I consider it to be enlightening to know it and therefore I seek my spiritual progress from another perspective, away from man-made or alien/ET-made religious lies.


So I stay away from organized religion and would seek out ancient knowledge such as meditation, chakras, chinese ancient healing and arts like chi gong and others that do not revolve around worshipping some alien god.

I know there's a universal creator but it is not the same as the 'GODS' who created man by splicing primate DNA with that of theirs.

We're to these gods, as much as dolly the sheep is to us.

[Pause]

Originally Posted by themaster

What is the point of you making statements like this?
Why are you sharing??
you just want people to adopt your truth?
...
Or are you trying to empower people to go to a specific better reality?
...
Care to explain your motivations and yourself?

These are some of the questions I was trying to get at ... maybe I have to learn to be more direct (while it is less fun), so that others do not have to ask them for me

[themaster]

Originally Posted by bman

We're to these gods, as much as dolly the sheep is to us.

Yes but were also gods.. and in invalidating these gods (negative judgment) you are invalidating yourself.. you see we are also these creatures these ET's be they negative or positive doesn't matter.. there us and we are they.. there is no difference..

Thank you very much though for sharing your motivations

I did say your statements contained lack.. and that is a judgment or a observation.. all I say is that in lack you say that we are un-empowered to do anything about it..

I would disagree with this idea and say we are all empowered to rise above it..

Would you not agree that..

a person doesn't have to know that these aliens are manipulating us to still take control and empower there reality?

a person does not need to get involved or take any action at all to rise above and be above these problems?

a person doesn't not require any information about the problems to still once again rise above/not be effected by said problems?

[bman]

Originally Posted by themaster

Yes but were also gods.. and in invalidating these gods (negative judgment) you are invalidating yourself.. you see we are also these creatures these ET's be they negative or positive doesn't matter.. there us and we are they.. there is no difference..

Thank you very much though for sharing your motivations

I did say your statements contained lack.. and that is a judgment or a observation.. all I say is that in lack you say that we are un-empowered to do anything about it..

I would disagree with this idea and say we are all empowered to rise above it..

Would you not agree that..

a person doesn't have to know that these aliens are manipulating us to still take control and empower there reality?

a person does not need to get involved or take any action at all to rise above and be above these problems?

a person doesn't not require any information about the problems to still once again rise above/not be effected by said problems?

That's like saying it's ok to let your government print your money to oblivion or forces you to take mandatory vaccines should it come to that even if those shots might harm you, or send your kids to fight war for the corporations.

The key isn't about aliens. The people just need to know they're being manipulated and in knowing so then they would know what is the right action to take.

But do you see people actually wanting to know or doing anything about their problems? No. The first thing to do is to know there's a problem, and then come up with the solution, be they external or internal.

But if you don't acknowledge the problem, then you don't bother with a solution, but that doesn't mean the problem would go away.

Small numbers of aware people won't be able to do much because their predicament is influenced, and affected by the apathy of others around them, who do hold some influence in their lives.

The first step is making people aware, so if they are aware, then you have scored the first round in reaching for a solution.

If people are not aware, their indifference will affect you.


Say for example, if the vaccine really turns out to be some problems, and you don't want to take the shot.

Then people around you who are not aware, found out you don't want to take the shot, then they believe the authority who is influencing their opinions that you are a selfish jerk and should be reported.

Then they report you, you get nailed and forced to take the shot, which has negative effects on you in years to come.

So like I said, everyone is part of the circle of energy and the very least you can do is to get them to wake up, because if they don't, they will screw up your reality, unless you wanna live in a cave away from civilization.

Collective consciousness awareness that we're being manipulated is the best first line of defence against external manipulation.

[themaster]

I'm sorry bman I don't agree with you on the idea people "have to know".. I think it's obvious from my statements I don't but let's explore a little further..

Let's change the subject to something else people like to shove down our throats.. let's change it to "aids" to me it's the same subject different context.. (understand that I understand I am conjecturing your words)

So I say: The people and I don't need to know about aids

You say: Yes they do, if they don't know they can't do anything about it

I say: Why do they need to do anything about it?
What's there to do?

You say: They should know so they don't catch it.. so they don't go to bath houses.. so we can organize committee's and feed the drug company's etc. create a cure

I say: Why do we need a cure for a self created disease?
Why don't we just tell people to heal themselves through self empowerment?

You say: What? What.. that's not possible.. we need to inform the people so there informed cause they really, really NEED TO KNOW

I say: I say they don't need to know.. in fact all they need to know is how to empower their lives for the better.. if they get aids they'll figure out the cure through empowerment

You say: BS they need to know..

Same subject as yours.. just different dialog about it

I do not agree with you bman.. and I suggest you take serious time looking at yourself and why you feel people need to know.. deep down inside you.. you'll find the fear that compels you to tell others.. for you are not acknowledging your own truth about this.. your just doing what humans have been doing for at 12,000 years.. not understanding your own problems and instead slinging your mud/problems onto others.. (we had a talk about this in the Conspiracy Thread)

Listen to me carefully bman.. People don't control your REALITY, You control your reality!!!! got it?

You don't have any power or say on this.. why?? cause you believe other people have your power.. that's fine.. I'm just telling you a idea of the truth and your welcome to listen or ignore..

Originally Posted by bman

Collective consciousness awareness that we're being manipulated is the best first line of defense against external manipulation.

And what do we need to defend against?
And what do we need to be afraid off?
What are you afraid off?

What if I don't mind being manipulated?
What if I don't see that manipulation as bad only you do?

Originally Posted by bman

But do you see people actually wanting to know or doing anything about their problems? No. The first thing to do is to know there's a problem, and then come up with the solution, be they external or internal.

There is no solution if there is no problem.. don't you understand.. by thinking about it your creating the problem.. you are creating the reality you fear.. good luck in that place

This is just irrational non-sense.. the first thing to acknowledge when talking to you.. is I don't want to take on your non-sensical problem and anyone talking to you would be well advised to do that.. the idea is there is no problem if you don't adopt it.. if I don't adopt AIDS above there is no problem.. there's no thought about that problem, there's no creation of that problem and there's no bringing that into my reality!

All this against the ALIENS is negative LOA bman.. you are bringing aliens and no choices and lack into your reality.. not away from.. by being informed you have made things worse not better.. and yet you want to go around in your FEAR and convince others to join you.. as I said before that's a pretty stupid choice for SMART PEOPLE to make.. but to each their own

I know a lot of spiritual information bman but the only way you're going to have a chance to convince me is if your words are written from a positive place.. not a place of lack.. you can't convince me cause your words are lack based.. they are un-empowered and my words are empowered (at least from my perspective) I feel I have control of my reality, you feel you don't have control of yours and that the people around you have it.. well unfortunately for you since I'm a nother person you didn't convince you've lost even more control right?