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Old 10-31-2009, 01:56 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Patented swine flu virus.

United States Patent Application: 0090010962


Genetically Engineered Swine Influenza Virus and Uses Thereof
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****, does this mean I owe them money if I catch it?
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Old 10-31-2009, 03:20 PM   #3 (permalink)
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This is pretty weak evidence. A quick glance indicates that the goal of this "invention" is to prevent a swine flu epidemic, or at least to provide for vaccines if a swine flu epidemic were to occur.

Note that it describes the h1n1 variant as a minor strain of flu.
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This is pretty weak evidence. A quick glance indicates that the goal of this "invention" is to prevent a swine flu epidemic, or at least to provide for vaccines if a swine flu epidemic were to occur.

Note that it describes the h1n1 variant as a minor strain of flu.

Serial No.: 628292
Series Code: 11
Filed: June 1, 2005
PCT Filed: June 1, 2005
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Old 10-31-2009, 03:40 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Whats going on in this thread?
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Old 10-31-2009, 03:43 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Yeah, that IS the information about the virus in the patent. Sorry, I'm not seeing your point. How does it relate to my post?

BTW: From the patent application:
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The present invention relates, in general, to attenuated swine influenza viruses having an impaired ability to antagonize the cellular interferon (IFN) response, and the use of such attenuated viruses in vaccine and pharmaceutical formulations. In particular, the invention relates to attenuated swine influenza viruses having modifications to a swine NS1 gene that diminish or eliminate the ability of the NS1 gene product to antagonize the cellular IFN response. These viruses replicate in vivo, but demonstrate decreased replication, virulence and increased attenuation, and therefore are well suited for use in live virus vaccines, and pharmaceutical formulations.
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[0016]Inactivated virus vaccines are prepared by "killing" the viral pathogen, e.g., by heat or formalin treatment, so that it is not capable of replication. Inactivated vaccines have limited utility because they do not provide long lasting immunity and, therefore, afford limited protection. An alternative approach for producing virus vaccines involves the use of attenuated live virus vaccines. Attenuated viruses are capable of replication but are not pathogenic, and, therefore, provide for longer lasting immunity and afford greater protection. However, the conventional methods for producing attenuated viruses involve the chance isolation of host range mutants, many of which are temperature sensitive; e.g., the virus is passaged through unnatural hosts, and progeny viruses which are immunogenic, yet not pathogenic, are selected.
(Bolding mine)

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Yeah, that IS the information about the virus in the patent. Sorry, I'm not seeing your point. How does it relate to my post?

BTW: From the patent application:andBolding mine)


1976 = 1st swine flu occurence.


2009 = 2nd occurence.


Between those you have about 33 years gap but the sudden interest in patenting the 'vaccine' material in 2005, and then the onset of swine flu in 2009 in such short period of year....


If your god given intelligence is working, you would smell a rat.


They seem to know when a pandemic would start and kept drumming to the public the next pandemic is coming and we're too long for a pandemic yada yada yada.

The only true prophet is the one who INTENDS to make his prophecies come true using deception and manipulation.

The pharmaceuticals and scientists in this case, are the false prophets of science.

They make things happen to make their prophecies true.

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Old 10-31-2009, 04:07 PM   #8 (permalink)
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So what do you think the bigger picture is?
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So what do you think the bigger picture is?

The bigger picture is the population are taken for fools, by giving up personal responsibility to the powers that are running their lives.

People find it very hard to think, and step out of their comfort zone and the false reality indoctrinated to them since birth.

Nobody wants to challenge or question their beliefs system because it is uncomfortable and unimaginable to think the system and institution you placed your trust the most in has failed you morally and ethically.
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The bigger picture is the population are taken for fools, by giving up personal responsibility to the powers that are running their lives.

People find it very hard to think, and step out of their comfort zone and the false reality indoctrinated to them since birth.

Nobody wants to challenge or question their beliefs system because it is uncomfortable and unimaginable to think the system and institution you placed your trust the most in has failed you morally and ethically.
That could be true, but i dont think this particular instance proves anything
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Alex Jones’ Prison Planet.com » Baxter Files Swine Flu Vaccine Patent A Year Ahead Of Outbreak
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YouTube - Baxter Puts Live Avian Bird Flu In Vaccines And Sends It Out To 18 Countries
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Baxter To Develop Swine Flu Vaccine Despite Bird Flu Scandal
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Well then, who is these powers that run our lives?
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The bankers. The CEOs. The royalty. Big Pharma. Big Oil. Basically the Bilderberg Group.
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Between those you have about 33 years gap but the sudden interest in patenting the 'vaccine' material in 2005, and then the onset of swine flu in 2009 in such short period of year....
The Bird flu hysteria at that time was a reason to look into patenting such stuff.
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The bankers. The CEOs. The royalty. Big Pharma. Big Oil. Basically the Bilderberg Group.
What makes the bilderberg group different from any other group of individuals?
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These conspiracy theory threads about the government/corporations engineering such-and-such virus are getting kind of old. If if politician and hospitals were that evil and could keep such a huge secret, the technology isn't there yet to invent a virus that only acts in a certain way, doesn't change later, and doesn't infect politicians or CEOs.

Living things are patented all the time. If you read the original link carefully, this is a case of two research hospitals wanting to retain the rights to a very specific version of H1N1. It's not unusual that researchers patent what they're working on,when the results are unique enough.

H1N1 variations are not a new inventions. H1N1 also did not vanish in the 1980s. H1N1 is a strain of the flu which creates new variations EVERY year (hence the need for annual shots of influenza vaccine if you want continued protection). Most of the time the flu strains are just the common flu, ans for most of us it's not a big deal. But eventually with enough variations, one comes out that our bodies aren't well equipped form... such as the swine-flu H1N1.

If we hate these new avian and swine flus, why don't we just do something about the well-known, documented cause: crossover back-forth from human to livestock, specifically in the course of raising livestock (generally in dirty, crowded, and poorly ventilated situations). Of course humankind is going to keep getting strains of diseases, the more we do this (duh)! But nobody wants to change how livestock can be raised or change their own eating habits. I guess it's easier to imagine secret labs brewing up new diseases than it is to say no to cheap factory-farmed "food" ? Or to just shake one's fist angrily at the pharmaceutical companies who have to treat the ills humans bring upon themselves... while we patronize the very businesses which create these problems?
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Funchy hits nail on head.. Look at your diet.. if you eat meat raised in lousy conditions, you get poor quality meat with diseased flock and added risk for handlers. Get to know who raises your food.....Its more money, but in the end it saves you money elsewhere. Its high time we paid attention to the food we eat.. after all we are what we eat...
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What makes the bilderberg group different from any other group of individuals?
They are the world's most powerful individuals, they meet in secrecy, the local law enforcement oversees the security of their meetings, they manage to meet without media interest, and the agendas that they are purported to discuss (like the OPEC oil embargo) manifest in the world shortly after the meetings are concluded.
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