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ar81 · 10-30-2009, 04:56 PM

Apology for singing shop worker
BBC NEWS | UK | Scotland | Tayside and Central | Apology for singing shop worker

It looks like intellectual property makes singing to be a crime.

Michelle · 10-30-2009, 05:00 PM

In the end, the authorities sent her flowers and apologized admitting their mistake. It doesn't look like she took the situation all that seriously to begin with. What a smart and cool woman!

ar81 · 11-01-2009, 08:16 AM

By making a vocal version, she is remixing, and remixing is illegal.
So they apologized because it is ridiculous, but it remains illegal.
I made my own remix version of 2001 space odyssey theme, and if I broadcasted it I might need to ask for permission from the studios that own the rights.
By singing in the open, she is technically broadcasting.

Holistic Star · 11-01-2009, 01:19 PM

The Performance Rights laws were brought in only a few years ago. I remember at the time people complaining because it meant it would now be illegal for the cliental of a pub gathered round a piano and have an impromptu sing song if the pub didn't have a licence.

Didn't think it would go so far as to attempt to prosecute someone for singing to themselves as they did their work though!

Andrew Brunelle · 11-01-2009, 01:25 PM

What kind of a law is this? Is this what the world has come to? Are people that protective of their music and intellectual property they would fine someone for singing their songs in public? Good thing this ended well.

Holistic Star · 11-01-2009, 04:35 PM

This is a UK law:

Who needs a PRS Music Licence?

• Any location or premises where music is played and can be heard by the public.
• Any premises outside the home, from clubs to concert halls, from discos to dentists’ waiting rooms, and from trains to take always.
• Usually, the proprietor/manager of the premises is responsible for obtaining a PRS Music Licence.

Is a PRS Music Licence required by law?

Yes.

10-30-2009, 04:56 PM	#1 (permalink)
ar81 Family Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,756	Is singing against the law? Apology for singing shop worker BBC NEWS \| UK \| Scotland \| Tayside and Central \| Apology for singing shop worker It looks like intellectual property makes singing to be a crime.

11-01-2009, 08:16 AM	#3 (permalink)
ar81 Family Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,756	By making a vocal version, she is remixing, and remixing is illegal. So they apologized because it is ridiculous, but it remains illegal. I made my own remix version of 2001 space odyssey theme, and if I broadcasted it I might need to ask for permission from the studios that own the rights. By singing in the open, she is technically broadcasting. Last edited by ar81; 11-01-2009 at 08:18 AM.

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10-30-2009, 05:00 PM	#2 (permalink)
Michelle Family Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Hawaii Posts: 1,285	In the end, the authorities sent her flowers and apologized admitting their mistake. It doesn't look like she took the situation all that seriously to begin with. What a smart and cool woman!

11-01-2009, 01:19 PM	#4 (permalink)
Holistic Star Family Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,611	The Performance Rights laws were brought in only a few years ago. I remember at the time people complaining because it meant it would now be illegal for the cliental of a pub gathered round a piano and have an impromptu sing song if the pub didn't have a licence. Didn't think it would go so far as to attempt to prosecute someone for singing to themselves as they did their work though!

11-01-2009, 01:25 PM	#5 (permalink)
Andrew Brunelle Family Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Home Posts: 2,578	What kind of a law is this? Is this what the world has come to? Are people that protective of their music and intellectual property they would fine someone for singing their songs in public? Good thing this ended well.

11-01-2009, 04:35 PM	#6 (permalink)
Holistic Star Family Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,611	This is a UK law: Who needs a PRS Music Licence? • Any location or premises where music is played and can be heard by the public. • Any premises outside the home, from clubs to concert halls, from discos to dentists’ waiting rooms, and from trains to take always. • Usually, the proprietor/manager of the premises is responsible for obtaining a PRS Music Licence. Is a PRS Music Licence required by law? Yes.

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