CBS covers-up humiliating McCain error, misleads national audience

[Dan.Linehan]

This is very frustrating considering that McCain's entire campaign centers on his military experience and knowledge.

http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com...ves/16289.html


Here is the side by side comparison of McCain's actual response versus what CBS aired.

[Angela]

I don't get it. Why is the media going so far out of its way to protect McCain from his own nincompooposity? I mean, do they really want us to be duped into voting in a president who is not even familiar with the issue he's basing his platform on?

Is this a set-up?

[Dannyboy1]

Originally Posted by Angela

I don't get it. Why is the media going so far out of its way to protect McCain from his own nincompooposity? I mean, do they really want us to be duped into voting in a president who is not even familiar with the issue he's basing his platform on?

Is this a set-up?

The media does this kind of thing all the time.

[{aspiring_to_clarity}]

Originally Posted by Angela

I mean, do they really want us to be duped into voting in a president who is not even familiar with the issue he's basing his platform on?

Isn't that how we got our current pres?

[Dannyboy1]

Originally Posted by {aspiring_to_clarity}

Isn't that how we got our current pres?

How we got him was he bought off people. The media merely covered it up.

[seeker5]

I see it as a wonderful execution of competing news station. One news media, CBS, covered it up, and another news media, MSNBC make a story out of CBS covering it up.

So it seems the system is working to me, no?

[Brutha]

We have learned in the past that McCain doesn't really know about the difference between Sunni and Shii.
Now he also doesn't know about the US policy concerning Iraq.

That makes him highly qualifed to lead the US into the next war doesn't it?

[seeker5]

Originally Posted by Brutha

That makes him highly qualifed to lead the US into the next war doesn't it?

hehe

What I love is how McCain says "I know how to win wars!"

And umm....McCain, what war have you been in that you've won?

[ThoughtAddict]

Originally Posted by Brutha

We have learned in the past that McCain doesn't really know about the difference between Sunni and Shii.
Now he also doesn't know about the US policy concerning Iraq.

That makes him highly qualifed to lead the US into the next war doesn't it?

He's too busy preparing for Iran to learn anything about Iraq. And he doesn't need to know about this, since there aren't any Sunnis or Shias in Iran...

...huh?

... Oh.

[WanderingOak]

Originally Posted by ThoughtAddict

He's too busy preparing for Iran to learn anything about Iraq. And he doesn't need to know about this, since there aren't any Sunnis or Shias in Iran...

...huh?

... Oh.

If McCain gets elected in November, then we are truly damned. Unfortunately, if anything happens to Obama between now and election day, McCain will be a shoo-in, as people will be too unnerved to make rational decisions.

[Still Growing]

CBS would have done the same for Obama. The reason is that its not about "WHO" wins the election its about creating and supporting a universal middle east policy.

CBS ,like many news stations, are manipulated by major shareholders who have a financial stake in the election. They know that no matter who gets elected that they'll be able to influence foreign policy.

Obama is now talking tuff about Afganistan, softening up his rhetoric about pulling out of Iraq and now his recent hard statements towards Iran shows that Obama has now reached the inner circle. I predicted in an early blog that once Obama wins the nomination that he will suddenly fall in line with US foreign policy or he would not have a chance. In the inner circle you slowly start to realize that you'd better fall in line with US foreign policy or you will be politically neutered.

I'm not anti Obama nor anti McCain because both are really hostages to their environments. Isn't it clear?

[Still Growing]

So many people say that the Republican party is simply PRO WAR and that the Bushies are simply planning to invade Iran.

This, to me, is clearly not that simple.
Why can't every one see what's going on ?! Here you have Iran threatnening Israel while a good portion of the US's financial infratructure and backers have Israel ties.

We all know that Washington is manipulated by special interests and banks which happen to have more Israel based companies than Muslim based. Just take one company like the Rothschilds who happen to own a chunk of our Fed, of many of the news channels and also weapons factories. This major player is based in Tel Aviv. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out where the US loyalties lie. THAT'S WHY THE MUSLIM WORLD DOESN'T TRUST US. Because they know we are pro Israel and they are not!

I'm not knocking Israel because to me I consider them our friends and partners and I really don't view Iran the same way. I think we should stay out of their business but I would never tolerate Iran invading my friends either if I was President. Now you see Obama agrees.

I find it interesting that Muslims living in a cave in Afganistan knows more about US special interests than the typical American civilian.

[Dannyboy1]

Originally Posted by Still Growing

CBS would have done the same for Obama. The reason is that its not about "WHO" wins the election its about creating and supporting a universal middle east policy.

I don't believe they would have done the same thing for Obama. You can say that's what you believe, but that doesn't make it true. As far as Obama's on Iraq, I believe he's trying to make the best decisions possible. No one is making him do anything. Would you rather he stick to a plan just because he said it even though he now realizes it would be a disaster? He's the most forthright candidate I've seen in years. Plus, he doesn't buy into the blatant attacks like the cartoon on the cover of the New Yorker or New York Mag... I don't remember which it was. He doesn't waste his time defending the ridiculous allegations the republicans keep trying to throw at him. Yes, I believe the republicans were behind that. I don't believe it was the satire they say it was. They know the voters who are more ignorant will take it at face value and agree with it. Otherwise, why didn't they even talk about the picture in the magazine. McCain is a figurehead. He has no idea what's going on.

[ThoughtAddict]

Originally Posted by Still Growing

Just take one company like the Rothschilds who happen to own a chunk of our Fed

My impression was that Rothschild banking was European. Which of the twelve federal reserve banks does a Rothschild own a controlling interest of?

Originally Posted by Still Growing

THAT'S WHY THE MUSLIM WORLD DOESN'T TRUST US. Because they know we are pro Israel and they are not!

To give a single reason for "The Muslim world" not liking "US citizens" is mind boggling. Various Muslims dislike various people for various reasons. The general Anti-American sentiment is fueled by a number of reasons. Our support of Israel against Palestine is a major, major issue for many Muslims. But it is just a piece of the problem. Our misuse of mujahideen of Afghanistan and then abandonment of the country doesn't help. Nor do our actions in Indonesia, Iraq, Iran (Shah who?), Saudi Arabia, Egypt... and any other country that was useful to us for a time. I could easily include countries where Islam is nearly non-existent, including South American countries like Panama and Chile.
Even your claim "they are not [pro Israel]" is overly broad. A great many Muslims would be fine with Israel if there was not violence in the region.

[Poiesis Hagakure]

I'm just curious, has anyone heard of AIPAC? I think it is a great tragedy how many people didn't know who Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich, or other of the presidential candidates were while the primaries were just up and running. But even more so exponentially of a tragedy is that no one knows who AIPAC is... and they don't want us to either. It is the Jewish lobby in american politics.

The Democrats took back power in Congress by lambasting Bush and the war in Iraq with their words--- and did the opposite with their actions. When Kucinich first introduced the notion of impeaching Bush, Speaker of the House Pelosi and someone from AIPAC --- wtf? ---- walked into his office and told them that he was going to drop the notion of impeaching bush or they were going to fund another democrat to fight him for his seat in Congress. WTF?~! Democrats fighting democrats TO PROTECT THIS PRESIDENT? and where does AIPAC come in?

90 minutes wanted to do a segment on AIPAC. funny story. Never happened. Not one government official, member of Congress, no one would go on air to talk about AIPAC. Everyone refused.

Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich- - - - - They represented change. There are so many similarities between the politicians but they all vie to look so different ----O H H H H !!! HE USED MY FAVORITE BUZZWORD!! OH HE USED ANOTHER ONE!! sorry, can you sense my distaste?

Look for people with substance, with a dream, people who want REAL change. Notice obama is already *changing* his tune to stand for less change. don't get me wrong ... if McCain wins this i will seriously have more of a negative outlook than ever on the stupidity of people and inability to think independantly of the herd. I like to hope but too many like to align themselves with others, and feel a sense of confidence and legitimacy through mooing like their friends moo.

The Democrats and Republicans all moo too. Let's change the electoral system and allow multiple parties. Let's actually have a choice when election time comes, eh? eh? as it stands they represent a bunch of nebulous buzzwords, and everyone moos about *experience* [all i think you need is a dream]. I want a drunkard for president. I want a ♥♥♥♥♥. I want someone with HIV. i want someone who might possibly die during their presidency or soon after and knows this, but wants to fulfill the duty. I want a normal person, who has failed so many times but still got back up. I want someone who doesn't know the in's and out's of politics, who doesn't know the right buzzwords to say, and doesn't know the right games to play to get what they want. I want someone who openly preaches their dream for America and that is all that they want, not power, and influence.

[[ok, so that is sorta not original, the beginning jist is something i've seen before, but you get the point. let's have a normal president, a good judge of people, an honest, open and hardworking person, not a politician]

[schola]

Wait! I thought only Fox News did that kind of stuff!!

You mean to say that all mainstream media is untrustworthy? No way dude!

Wake up sheeple.

[Poiesis Hagakure]

sheeple... that reminds me of all the buzzwords turned on a coin that i picked up this primary season! Lame stream media, Faux news, etc. It's so sad and so true. The media are there to tell us the truth, to break the stories, to investigate and get to the bottom of things. That's the idea, right? They are the lapdogs of those in power, as Tucker Carlson himself has said. evidence this quote from his own show:

CARLSON: Right. But I mean, since journalistic standards in Great Britain are so much dramatically lower than they are here, it's a little much being lectured on journalistic ethics by a reporter from the "Scotsman," but I wonder if you could just explain what you think the effect is on the relationship between the press and the powerful. People don't talk to you when you go out of your way to hurt them as you did in this piece.

this is the first link i found it at but you can cross verify: Tucker Carlson unintentionally reveals the role of the American press - Glenn Greenwald - Salon.com

[Still Growing]

Originally Posted by Dannyboy1

I don't believe they (CBS) would have done the same thing for Obama.

Plus, he doesn't buy into the blatant attacks like the cartoon on the cover of the New Yorker or New York Mag... I don't remember which it was. He doesn't waste his time defending the ridiculous allegations the republicans keep trying to throw at him. Yes, I believe the republicans were behind that. I don't believe it was the satire they say it was.

We all know Fox is the only right wing major newschannel in the US. But you believe, however, that CBS is pro McCain? C'mon.

Next you believe that the New Yorker is against Obama? Thats rediculous as well. The cover they did was to highlight the ignorant propositions made by the right wing people that Obama is somehow Muslim simply because of his name.

Dannyboy, no offense but I think you're out of touch.

[Still Growing]

Originally Posted by ThoughtAddict

My impression was that Rothschild banking was European. Which of the twelve federal reserve banks does a Rothschild own a controlling interest of?

They don't own one of the Regional Reserve Banks. They own a portion of "the" FEDERAL RESERVE.
Who owns the Fed?

Originally Posted by ThoughtAddict

To give a single reason for "The Muslim world" not liking "US citizens" is mind boggling. Various Muslims dislike various people for various reasons. The general Anti-American sentiment is fueled by a number of reasons. Our support of Israel against Palestine is a major, major issue for many Muslims. But it is just a piece of the problem. Our misuse of mujahideen of Afghanistan and then abandonment of the country doesn't help. Nor do our actions in Indonesia, Iraq, Iran (Shah who?), Saudi Arabia, Egypt... and any other country that was useful to us for a time. I could easily include countries where Islam is nearly non-existent, including South American countries like Panama and Chile.
Even your claim "they are not [pro Israel]" is overly broad. A great many Muslims would be fine with Israel if there was not violence in the region.

Of course there is no single reason for many Muslim extremists not to like the US. There are many actions that the US takes that angers them. But what is the core reason that we take those actions?

OK, so there have been tensions between Jews and Muslims for over 2,000 years and there is a fundamental disagreement between their religions. Here we are siding with Israel but you'd have me believe that what they are most angry about is that we left them stranded in Afganistan. They know we are a beauracracy that has no feelings; this doesn't surprise them.

The real problem is that they know that we are ALIGNED with Israel and that fundamentally the decisions the US makes constantly are favoring Israel over Palestine. This is the CORE problem and its not simply my opinion. Do your research and you'll find that this comes straight from the Muslim extremists.

Furthermore, if we could talk to Osama bin Laden today (we can't because he's probably locked up or already dead) you would probably find that he is not crazy. He probably has a lot more knowledge than you and I about whats going on with the US's foreign relations. He is a very educated man (albeit a murderer) who has dealt with the CIA and knows what makes the US tick.

[Dave Kaminski]

Originally Posted by Angela

I don't get it. Why is the media going so far out of its way to protect McCain from his own nincompooposity? I mean, do they really want us to be duped into voting in a president who is not even familiar with the issue he's basing his platform on?

Is this a set-up?

Angela, these platforms are made up - they are all puppets to entertain us, not people to inform or help or support us.

Of course it is a set up. It's been set up since before you were born! How the hell does Harry Truman get into office otherwise? How do people like Fred Thompson end up campaigning for president? It's a joke!

Please stop giving them so much faith and credit. I'd love to see you on the side the evidence is clearly pointing towards. Voting is a joke - Barack is no better or worse than McCain.

Looks like CBS got called out on this one though, and had to issue a correction.

[Dave Kaminski]

Originally Posted by Still Growing

We all know Fox is the only right wing major newschannel in the US. But you believe, however, that CBS is pro McCain? C'mon.

What about the Disney Channel?

[Still Growing]

Originally Posted by Dave Kaminski

What about the Disney Channel?

I don't watch the Disney Channel. Do they show news now?

[Dave Kaminski]

Just about as often as Fox, CBS, CNN, NBC, and the rest of your supposed news channels do.

Right wing and left wing are a joke at this point - I'm horrified you still buy into the system so deeply. To know what you know about Osama Bin Laden and to think that our government isn't working solely against it's own people shocks me.

George W's father worked closely with him, and his father worked closely with Hitler, and they all benefitted at the expense of their countrymen. What makes you think round three is any different? What makes you so sure the people in power are looking out for anything but their own #1 best interests?

You have a name like "Still Growing" which is doublespeak in itself. I think 'still' means more like a pond rather than a continuous thing, as with all the knowledge you've absorbed and acquired here I've yet to see you attempt to wholly consider different perspectives. Forgive my blindness and ignorance if you have, but it's not apparent to me.

[Still Growing]

Dave,
I don't buy into the Rep and Dem thing. I think they both just give the people what they want to hear but in the end its all about special interests. I also think that politicians pray to the temple of the power which is our news channels.

I don't think you understand my position enough to be so personally rude and critical.

Give it to me.... Lets discuss which position you disagree with and I will gladly clarify if there is a misundertanding.

You can even criticize me and generalize my statements however I think you are crossing the line of civility with your last post.

[Still Growing]

Dave,
I just went back and read your comments and I'm confused. It actually seems like we agree on the subject.

You must have misunderstood something I posted.

[Dave Kaminski]

How can you call Fox the only Right Wing news channel then, if you don't buy into the left and right deal? Wouldn't you then say that they're all corrupt and work together, and there is no left and no right wing news?

Why would you discount CBS from being pro-McCain if you know they all work together to get us into their NWO or wherever they're sending us.

Also, you're completely right, my rude words were without basis and uncalled for. There's nothing I can do but apologize. I'm sorry! No excuses.

[Dannyboy1]

Originally Posted by Still Growing

We all know Fox is the only right wing major newschannel in the US. But you believe, however, that CBS is pro McCain? C'mon.

Next you believe that the New Yorker is against Obama? Thats rediculous as well. The cover they did was to highlight the ignorant propositions made by the right wing people that Obama is somehow Muslim simply because of his name.

Dannyboy, no offense but I think you're out of touch.

That expression means you're about to say something offensive. You can name call all you want, but you're not thinking deep enough. Most people in America are not very enlightened. Most of them have no idea what irony is. They will take that cartoon at face value. It will only serve to bolster their fears. And if you think the people who put that cartoon on the cover didn't think of that, then "no offense, but..." I guess I'm out of touch like the millions of people who were offended by the cover, including many newspaper journalists who are following every word that comes out of each candidates mouth. I guess we're all pretty far behind your advanced "in touch" thinking.

[Still Growing]

Dannyboy,
I agree the New Yorker's cover was offensive and I think inappropriate. I am just saying that IMHO that they were trying to make fun of the Conservatives. They even said so themselves...

You said you think the New Yorker is pro McCain. This doesn't add up.

Very Liberal "New Yorker Magazine" slaps Obama on cover. (patriot, conservative) - 2008 Presidential Election - City-Data Forum

As for being sarcastic about my "in touch" thinking, I don't think there is anything wrong with debating viewpoints. Its healthy.

If I were you I'd just gather evidence of why you think the New Yorker is pro Republican like you said. Do you really believe that?

[Still Growing]

Originally Posted by Dave Kaminski

How can you call Fox the only Right Wing news channel then, if you don't buy into the left and right deal? Wouldn't you then say that they're all corrupt and work together, and there is no left and no right wing news?

Why would you discount CBS from being pro-McCain if you know they all work together to get us into their NWO or wherever they're sending us.

Also, you're completely right, my rude words were without basis and uncalled for. There's nothing I can do but apologize. I'm sorry! No excuses.

Dave no problem, I'm not a grudge holding type person ! You're just passionate about your viewpoints. I think that's great !

I see what you're saying...Let me clarify.

I think that most news channels are more liberal and that fox is more right wing however when it comes down from management to hide something they do.

Now why would CBS hide McCain's flub up about Iraq even though they are typically leftist in their commentary? Now if you think about it, when someone does something that is typically against their character then there must be a reason.

I think that its complex but in someway it wasn't about protecting McCain so he gets elected it was protecting the American public's ears from information they decided they didn't want us to receive. Its their motive I'm questioning.

[Dannyboy1]

Originally Posted by Still Growing

Dannyboy,
I agree the New Yorker's cover was offensive and I think inappropriate. I am just saying that IMHO that they were trying to make fun of the Conservatives. They even said so themselves...

You said you think the New Yorker is pro McCain. This doesn't add up.

Very Liberal "New Yorker Magazine" slaps Obama on cover. (patriot, conservative) - 2008 Presidential Election - City-Data Forum

As for being sarcastic about my "in touch" thinking, I don't think there is anything wrong with debating viewpoints. Its healthy.

If I were you I'd just gather evidence of why you think the New Yorker is pro Republican like you said. Do you really believe that?

Because you insulted me instead of making a valid point. You don't know me and you don't know what I know. Just because I have a different viewpoint than you doesn't mean I'm "out of touch".

As far as the New Yorker, if there wasn't some pro McCain hand in the printing of that cartoon, then they must have been drunk to assume everyone would get the sarcasm without any explanation whatsoever in that issue. And, as far as how they explained themselves... Of course they're going to make and excuse like that. What are they going to do, tell the truth? No. They did damage control. They said whatever they had to say to cover up, either a biased and racist attack, or the mother of all blunders.