Swedish school weighs in on who

[Tasaio]

BBC NEWS | Europe | Birthday party snub sparks debate

Oops, pressed enter too soon. This meant to read "Swedish school weighs in on whom a boy can invite to his birthday party."

Read for yourself. Hopefully, this insanity won't spread much farther.

I also notice the double standard. He didn't invite one of the boys because this other boy never invited the first boy to HIS birthday party. So wasn't he discriminating, too?

[Brutha]

Do you actually think that this is an interessting problem? There are a lot of things that are far more significant than what happens in some schoolroom where kids want to invite each other to birthday.

There are things that happen that matter. If you hang yourself up on triveria and spend valuable intellectual effort on problems like kids in another country wanting to invite each other to birthday you have less intellectual energy to spend on important problems.

[PianoManGidley]

Wow...so now to be PC, we have to make sure we invite EVERYONE to our parties...

Tell me again where people have a right to go through life without ever being offended or having their feelings hurt?

[Calimero]

Originally Posted by PianoManGidley

Wow...so now to be PC, we have to make sure we invite EVERYONE to our parties...

Tell me again where people have a right to go through life without ever being offended or having their feelings hurt?

People have the right to go trough life without ever being hurt or have offended feelings....fact is that most people don't chose to do so.
You don't have to feel hurt if you are not invited to a party. But some people just prefer to feel hurt about something like that.

[Marco Polo]

Wow, can you imagine the ripple effects of this?

Just kidding. Yeah, like Brutha said I'm not sure how important this is. Then again, we could see this as a microcosm of political correctness in general (and I do believe political correctness is a huge problem).

[Trezker]

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[PianoManGidley]

Originally Posted by Calimero

People have the right to go trough life without ever being hurt or have offended feelings....fact is that most people don't chose to do so.
You don't have to feel hurt if you are not invited to a party. But some people just prefer to feel hurt about something like that.

Well, the problem with PC is that instead of people deciding for themselves whether or not they'll be offended, they point the blame on others who "incite" the offense, so the wrong people get punished.

[Calimero]

Originally Posted by PianoManGidley

Well, the problem with PC is that instead of people deciding for themselves whether or not they'll be offended, they point the blame on others who "incite" the offense, so the wrong people get punished.

Well that is the case with so many things in life. People don't decide themselves if they really need a car, a dishwasher, a new mobile phone, a new haircut...Other people just create the need or the feeling of a need with commercial messages
They don't decide for themselves if they have to consider themselves as ugly if they have some pimples in their face, small tits, some over weight, not the last new fashion to wear.....Other people just create the need or the feeling of a need with commercial messages.
So PC is in fact just another part of marketing that involves another kind of feelings where you can make lawyers and judges so court been used far more often than ever before. So make people believe that they have to feel hurt in many occasions and the court busyness machine can make some more profit. After all court has nothing to do with "justice" but all with jurisdiction that are different things imo

[Tasaio]

Originally Posted by Brutha

Do you actually think that this is an interessting problem? There are a lot of things that are far more significant than what happens in some schoolroom where kids want to invite each other to birthday.

There are things that happen that matter. If you hang yourself up on triveria and spend valuable intellectual effort on problems like kids in another country wanting to invite each other to birthday you have less intellectual energy to spend on important problems.

If you don't find this subject interesting, then don't post. Don't tell people their interests aren't important, and don't matter. I certainly don't criticize your threads, and I don't appreciate this personal vendetta you seem to have developed against me.

[Brutha]

If you don't find this subject interesting, then don't post. Don't tell people their interests aren't important, and don't matter. I certainly don't criticize your threads,

You stated that something is "insanity". That means that you make a statement that it's an important event.
That is an interesting claim that I oppose. Like other people oppose torture I oppose putting importance on issues like this, because putting importance on such events removes energy from the political discussion that could be used better in other places where there are serious problems that have to be solved in our society.

This forum is in part created to increase conscious exchange. Discussing whether the topic actually is irrelevant is part of that exchange.
Being conscious is about choosing to effectively use your mental energy.

In a political discussions you can defend your claims but you shouldn't expect that nobody criticises them.
That includes meta claims like: "It's worth talking about which boy in Sweden invites with other boy to his birthday."

Talking about issues on a meta levels is also part of consciously discussing an issue.

If someone would open a thread whether you should use water boarding or electric shocks to get information out of terrorists it would neither be off topic to criticise the idea of torturing people.

I don't appreciate this personal vendetta you seem to have developed against me.

It's nothing personal, I generally don't like it when irrevelant issues get a lot of media exposure when there are important issues that get no media exposure.
Having a media that deals with the important issues is vital to a functioning society and it's a huge problem that our media gets worse and worse. This is a perfect example of that trend and I don't like it when people follow those media etablishments in that destructive way.

As a result I argue against people who do, especially when they do it here on this forum with is supposed to make people more conscious about world affairs.

[schola]

Originally Posted by Brutha

Do you actually think that this is an interessting problem? There are a lot of things that are far more significant than what happens in some schoolroom where kids want to invite each other to birthday.

There are things that happen that matter. If you hang yourself up on triveria and spend valuable intellectual effort on problems like kids in another country wanting to invite each other to birthday you have less intellectual energy to spend on important problems.

I think the OP is relevant.

I find it interesting that the school interfered in what should have been a private decision. Now the Swedish government is involved.

[Brutha]

I find it interesting that the school interfered in what should have been a private decision.

Schools interfere on a daily basis somewhere in the world which private decisions. Some teachers hit their students or sexually molest them. Those are all things that happen on a daily basis everywhere in the world.
A teacher sexually molesting a student is even more harmful, than taking away his birthday cards.
What makes the taking birthday cards away more important than the big number of cases where a student gets sexually molested but it doesn't hit the worldwide media?

[schola]

Sometimes minor events have wider implications. This seems to be an example of the wider collectivist trend of infringing on individual rights by imposing "equality."

[Still Growing]

Originally Posted by schola

Sometimes minor events have wider implications. This seems to be an example of the wider collectivist trend of infringing on individual rights by imposing "equality."

Very true schola.

Also, sometimes if news doesn't fit someone's agenda then they then view it to be irrelevant.

I bet if it were a US school .... then it would be more relative wouldn't it?

[Calimero]

Originally Posted by Brutha

Schools interfere on a daily basis somewhere in the world which private decisions. Some teachers hit their students or sexually molest them. Those are all things that happen on a daily basis everywhere in the world.
A teacher sexually molesting a student is even more harmful, than taking away his birthday cards.
What makes the taking birthday cards away more important than the big number of cases where a student gets sexually molested but it doesn't hit the worldwide media?

And yet maybe it should. It are children that are getting hurt in the case you mention. And I think any act of violence of adults against children should be reported. It would give us a more accurate view on how well developed and civilized human beings really are.
The price of gas is rising. Well I don't need to hear the exact price per barrel on the news every day, as I don't buy crude oil per barrel. And if I want to know how much it costs to fill up a car I can see the price at the "gas-station" if I really need to know.
But I think to show the awful truth about how adults treat children should be known. You can't be ignorant as it comes to children.