Maharishi Effect

[Shain McVay]

Hello,
I was just wondering if everyone has heard of the Maharishi Effect. It was in What the Bleep Do We Know. It's effect has to do with a number of people practicing Transcendental Meditation or Yogic flying in a group and the reduction of crime around the surrounding City/State/County. There has also been a co-relation in the size a group and the Stock Market. The biggest group is in Fairfield Iowa at Maharishi University of Management. I am going to school here. We just recently hit the threshold of the number people needed to effect the entire US.

Maharishi Effect

Just wondering what everyone thought.

[Subscreet]

That site doesn't cite any of it's sources, it just references it's own graphs.

Below are many of the findings from research studies performed on the Technologies of Maharishi’s Vedic Science. All references are to Scientific Research on the Transcendental Meditation and TM-Sidhi Programme: Collected Papers, Vol. 1-5.

[Stu]

Yea I have to agree, the site tries to paint the Maharishi effect as a scientifically tested phenomenon but fails to cite, as far as I can tell, a single source.

If you're going to a Maharishi school maybe you could point us in the right direction?

[yossarian]

Your wish is my command!

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Originally Posted by Journal of Conflict Resolution

Increases in the size of the group had a statistically significant effect in the predicted direction on the individual variables and on all composite quality-of-life indices. The effects of holidays, temperature, weekends, and other forms of seasonality were explicitly controlled and could not account for these results. Cross-correlations and transfer functions indicated that the group had a leading relationship to change on the quality-of-life indicators, supporting a causal interpretation.

[Dan.Linehan]

Weren't you just talking about this yossarian?

Nice to know there are formal programs.

[yossarian]

Originally Posted by Dan.Linehan

Weren't you just talking about this yossarian?

Nice to know there are formal programs.

yep

I think this effect is the most important thing in the world

[Dan.Linehan]

How hard is it to learn to do? Is it just a matter of a large group of people meditating about the same idea or vision?

[Dan.Linehan]

Originally Posted by yossarian

yep

I think this effect is the most important thing in the world

As long as it doesn't turn into Mind Control Made Easy.

[yossarian]

Originally Posted by Dan.Linehan

How hard is it to learn to do? Is it just a matter of a large group of people meditating about the same idea or vision?

nope

just people meditating in peace, feeling joy and loving-kindness

we all live in a big field of consciousness, and when you feel joy that joy is naturally spread to those around you

when two people feel joy together, there is an exponentiating effect. every added person is another exponent in terms of the size and power of the field

[Dharma]

If you create all your experience it doesn't matter how many people you have. You get the same effect.

If you want to play with the denial that to get more effects you need more people, ok. But just know you're playing that game with reality.

The Maharishi effect uses the same logic as electricity. If I need to power more things I need a bigger generator.

[yossarian]

Originally Posted by Dharma

If you create all your experience it doesn't matter how many people you have. You get the same effect.

If you want to play with the denial that to get more effects you need more people, ok. But just know you're playing that game with reality.

The Maharishi effect uses the same logic as electricity. If I need to power more things I need a bigger generator.

This is great for people like you and me who seem comfortable dwelling in mystery, but the BIG DEAL about the Maharishi effect is that it has been scientifically proven multiple times.

It's a pretty big deal to have actual hard, incontestable scientific proof of such a thing. Theoretically, using this scientific proof we should be able to reach a lot of people who are normally closed to the paranormal but who are very familiar with the methods of science.

It's the difference between having mystics for centuries telling us that space-time is curved, and having Einstein work out the math in highly precise detail to the point where physicists can make accurate predictions and be right every time.

The only reason the voluminous scientific proofs of Maharishi have not become common knowledge is because the Maharishi effect is the Power Elite's worst nightmare.

There are so many people who dedicate their lives to outrage and combat -- Maharishi scientifically proves without a doubt that outrage creates more strife and combat creates more violence. Social revolutionaries like Dan Linehan would make the biggest impact simply by finding their own joy and bringing that joy and peace to every encounter they make in their life. This is what the hard science behind Maharishi proves beyond a doubt. There is so such thing as being skeptical of Maharishi because the proof is overwhelming - at this point to be skeptical of it would be equivalent to being skeptical of Newton's Laws. There is overwhelming proof.

[Shain McVay]

In the history of all social sciences this is the only type of study that has worked every time it has been applied. With social sciences there are so many variables that it makes it almost impossible to get consistent results, but the maharishi effect works every time it has been applied.

Also I wanted to correct myself and say we have the second largest group in Fairfield IA; first is in India.

[Pegasus]

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[seeingstars87]

I'm actually very seriously considering applying to this university. I'm coming to a visitor's weekend July 11-14 to learn the Transcendental Meditation technique and explore the campus!

[Dharma]

Originally Posted by yossarian

This is great for people like you and me who seem comfortable dwelling in mystery, but the BIG DEAL about the Maharishi effect is that it has been scientifically proven multiple times.

In reality, you create your own experiences; "scientifically proven" is one of those experiences. It's not real. It can be anything you want.

[Shain McVay]

Originally Posted by Dan.Linehan

How hard is it to learn to do? Is it just a matter of a large group of people meditating about the same idea or vision?

Actually TM is considered an effortless type of meditation. Also I want to point out that the university says this is natural for humans to do; humans were suppose to do it but forgot how over time. They have verified this through research on EEGs showing that a person learning TM for the first time has the same brain waves in meditation as a long-term TM practicer. This shows that it takes no skill or practice but just setting up the initial sound and your brain will carry out the rest of the meditation by itself; effortlessly your brain catches on to TM.

Also TM is the oldest form of meditation and the most widely studied. It's widely studied because the benefits of it are so high. During TM 100% of the brain is enlivened. Outside of meditation you brain actually starts acting from the entire brain. Everything good about the brain improves(IQ, memory, ect) and psychological aspects also improve(anxiety, moral reasoning, ect).

TM you can learn in one meeting but I think they have a week long class that goes along with it. I haven't learned Yogic Flying so I can't say much about it, but I think it takes 6 weeks to learn.

This is a long video, but anyone who is interested: Dr John Hagelin - The Effects of Group Meditation on Crime - Google Video

[Areyou]

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[Areyou]

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[Shain McVay]

If you want to skip to the part about the maharishi effect go to 38:00

Dr John Hagelin - The Effects of Group Meditation on Crime