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Told Lynn Woolsey's office that I support the impeachment 100% - and that I expected her to do the same.

The House of Representative Switchboard Number is (202) 224-3121 if anyone else wants to contact their representative and give their opinions.
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I contacted Nancy Pelosi -- both on the phone and via the web contact form to tell her I support impeachment.

Here is the web address: Speaker Nancy Pelosi | Contact Us
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Why would impeachment be off the table? Are you daft? WAKE UP. HE BROKE THE LAW!

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I contacted Nancy via the web form. I'm thinking I might place a few calls within the days to follow.

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Bush, Cheney, and their entire administration are war criminals guilty of treason. It baffles me that they've stayed in office as long as they have and I will not stand for it any longer. If you have any respect for the will of the American people then do everything in your power to aid the impeachment proceedings.
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No offense, but I started to read through some of these posts and I just can't believe it. Why on earth would we as a country be worried about impeaching a president that only has about 6 months left in his term (sound familiar?) when there are so many other important issues. Have you been to the gas pump lately? Why don't you call your congressman and ask them why they have not voted to start drilling oil over here and making us energy independent like France and Brazil? You can't tell me that drilling here would be bad for the environment because it is 13 times less likely to have a spill if the oil is drilled here than overseas, not to mention the impact of CO2 from delivering the stuff from the middle east. It will take billions of barrels of oil just to build another alternative energy infrastructure. Thanks for your time.
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Bush broke the law. No one, especially not the President, is above the law.

Selective enforcement is a bane to civilized society.
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I understand, but prosecute him after he is out of office and don't take up our congressman's time on it. It is a crime that I am paying 4 dollars a gallon for gas and over 4 bucks for a gallon of milk. I have a family I don't care if the monkey bush gets prosecuted. I am worried about paying my bills. These politicians voted again yesterday I believe to NOT drill yet again on another portion of the US. I'm sorry, I'm not alone, we the people will start voting off everyone of these politicians who do not help us become energy independent. They say they want to get of fossil fuels, fine, but give us answers NOW so I can pay my bills. Obama and McCain are not giving us any answers about what to do now.
I am a JFK Democrat, not one of these moveon people and JFK would have never ignored the people this way.
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I am worried about paying my bills. These politicians voted again yesterday I believe to NOT drill yet again on another portion of the US. I'm sorry, I'm not alone, we the people will start voting off everyone of these politicians who do not help us become energy independent. They say they want to get of fossil fuels, fine, but give us answers NOW so I can pay my bills. Obama and McCain are not giving us any answers about what to do now.
I am a JFK Democrat, not one of these moveon people and JFK would have never ignored the people this way.
Call your representative. Tell him or her how you feel. I mean, they are YOUR representative. Have you contacted them?

When I lived in Ohio I drove 40 minutes to work, and made $9 / hour. I was barely scraping by then, and gas was $1.40/gal. I can't imagine doing it with prices like they are now.

Is it possible for you to move closer to work? I'm not convinced gas prices will be going back down any time soon.
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I've already mailed Senator Mel Martinez and I told him that he wouldn't get my vote in 2010 unless he voted for drilling off the coast of Florida. I mean if the Chinese can drill around the gulf, how come we can't?
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Don't know if this helps, but you can also look at buying a 2004 Prius and converting it to PHEV. Should get about 160 MPG on a $5 charge.
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Thanks Dan, but I don't have 40 or 50K to drop into another vehicle. I'm in debt with the Honda Accord 4 cylander I have now. I wish I made more money and could buy this vehicle, but you have to understand most Americans are like me, leverage to the hilt and a lot of it isn't our faults. Everything costs too darn much.
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No offense, but I started to read through some of these posts and I just can't believe it. Why on earth would we as a country be worried about impeaching a president that only has about 6 months left in his term (sound familiar?) when there are so many other important issues. Have you been to the gas pump lately? Why don't you call your congressman and ask them why they have not voted to start drilling oil over here and making us energy independent like France and Brazil? You can't tell me that drilling here would be bad for the environment because it is 13 times less likely to have a spill if the oil is drilled here than overseas, not to mention the impact of CO2 from delivering the stuff from the middle east. It will take billions of barrels of oil just to build another alternative energy infrastructure. Thanks for your time.
We have to let leaders know this cannot and will not be tolerated. Are you not aware of just how many national and international laws he has violated???
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Danny, arrest him. Now what are you going to do about my wallet and the high energy costs. This is all we care about.
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Danny, arrest him. Now what are you going to do about my wallet and the high energy costs. This is all we care about.
I know you want to be right, but think about it. Do you let a kid get away with stealing because you've already driven away from the store? No. Whatever the results are of his actions is not the point. We have to put back the insane laws he created for his own evil little schemes and we have to punish him. If we don't, future leaders will think that as long as they get away with it until the end of their term, they'll be okay. Think about the future of the presidency. Do you want others to take away even more rights? Impeachment is not a waste of resources. I'm sure if you look around, there are plenty of other things the government is REALLY wasting time on.
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I understand, but prosecute him after he is out of office and don't take up our congressman's time on it. It is a crime that I am paying 4 dollars a gallon for gas and over 4 bucks for a gallon of milk.
Gas isn't going to get cheaper but there's a solution. Stop driving so much around.
Having a high gas price is also the best thing to support technology development of regenerative energy sources.

And it's not like the rising gas costs make up 10% of your income and if they do you are definatly driving to much.

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They say they want to get of fossil fuels, fine, but give us answers NOW so I can pay my bills.
Short term solutions are very bad in politics.
I want to have a politicans who think long term.
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I understand, but prosecute him after he is out of office and don't take up our congressman's time on it.
Taking up congressman's time by teaching them that votes care whether or not a politicans violates laws sounds like a good idea to me.

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If you as one person out of many who write some comment via a comment form you are just a number.
If you seek the candicate in person, you can have much more impact.
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you are right dan, but that is like focusing on a water leak in your house while afox is robbing the hen house. We can be in very very serious trouble if we don't do something about this now, and yes a lot of it is bush's fault but that doesn't change the fact thta we are in big trouble. You know those lazy bums up in congress can only focus on one thing at a time. If they spend the rest of this year impeaching this bum, our gas could go up to 10 dollars a gallon. I want results now. What is McCain's and Obama's stance on this energy crisis?
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Thanks Dan, but I don't have 40 or 50K to drop into another vehicle. I'm in debt with the Honda Accord 4 cylander I have now. I wish I made more money and could buy this vehicle, but you have to understand most Americans are like me, leverage to the hilt and a lot of it isn't our faults. Everything costs too darn much.
Be careful that you don't give up too much personal responsibilty. You have choices (yes, even now).
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Think about the future of the presidency. Do you want others to take away even more rights? Impeachment is not a waste of resources. I'm sure if you look around, there are plenty of other things the government is REALLY wasting time on.
You've had rights taken away? By Bush? I know I'm upset with the government's laxed stance on people in this country illegally, loose borders, restricted military rules of engagement, plush prisons, anti-oil exploration legislation, and leaking sensitive security issues to the press and in-turn to our enemies. But even with all of these shortcomings, missteps, and blunders on Bush's record, I don't recall any of my rights being stripped away.

Although locally, some politicians are forcing the issue of land use on private property - what you can and can't do with your own land, actually it's a cap on what percentage of your own land can be used for anything at all - which I guess is a loss of rights - but that was by the local Dems, not Bush. And, there's rumbling of the reintroduction of the Fairness Doctrine, which would require any broadcasting of news and opinion to tell both sides of all stories, which is supposed to 'balance' the presentation - effectively infringing on a broadcast company's free speach - it would require shows like Air America and the Colbert Report to have 'equal time' for both sides of issues, not just their own. But that should be the company's, or the person's choice - free speach. Again, this is a Dem's torch, not Bush.

I am not a whole-hearted Bush supporter, far from it - he's blundered his way through 8 years like no other and I can't say we're better off for it. But the issues I know of that effect the way I live, what I watch, what I listen to, that are infringing on me or others losing any rights are tied into Democrat policies. The issues that effect my wallet and my sense of security and safety in my community can however be credited to the lack of performance of the Bush administration to get things done that we needed done a long time ago, and I fully blame them for letting those things slide - so I agree with you Danny about the government wasting time. Too many soft programs and not enough hard decisions being made.

So here we are. With another opportunity. But I'm not confident in any candidate to solve these problems in any sort of satisfactory manner, or affordable manner, given the layers of red tape and litigation our system has created.

Which leads me to a quandry - why do people who don't want others telling them what to do vote for political parties which have historically created more government to regulate and control more of what the people do?
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They violated a lot of peoples right to privacy by illegal wiretapping.
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And, there's rumbling of the reintroduction of the Fairness Doctrine, which would require any broadcasting of news and opinion to tell both sides of all stories, which is supposed to 'balance' the presentation - effectively infringing on a broadcast company's free speach - it would require shows like Air America and the Colbert Report to have 'equal time' for both sides of issues, not just their own.
The real problem is that there are a lot more than two sides.

It not just Democrats vs. Republicans.

There just things that are not in the scope of being a president and starting an illegal wiretapping program would be one of them.
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It is a crime that I am paying 4 dollars a gallon for gas...
I'm not going to get into this discussion as I don't know enough about US politics but try the equivalent of $10 for a gallon of gas that we have in the UK.
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You've had rights taken away? By Bush? I know I'm upset with the government's laxed stance on people in this country illegally, loose borders, restricted military rules of engagement, plush prisons, anti-oil exploration legislation, and leaking sensitive security issues to the press and in-turn to our enemies. But even with all of these shortcomings, missteps, and blunders on Bush's record, I don't recall any of my rights being stripped away.

Although locally, some politicians are forcing the issue of land use on private property - what you can and can't do with your own land, actually it's a cap on what percentage of your own land can be used for anything at all - which I guess is a loss of rights - but that was by the local Dems, not Bush. And, there's rumbling of the reintroduction of the Fairness Doctrine, which would require any broadcasting of news and opinion to tell both sides of all stories, which is supposed to 'balance' the presentation - effectively infringing on a broadcast company's free speach - it would require shows like Air America and the Colbert Report to have 'equal time' for both sides of issues, not just their own. But that should be the company's, or the person's choice - free speach. Again, this is a Dem's torch, not Bush.

I am not a whole-hearted Bush supporter, far from it - he's blundered his way through 8 years like no other and I can't say we're better off for it. But the issues I know of that effect the way I live, what I watch, what I listen to, that are infringing on me or others losing any rights are tied into Democrat policies. The issues that effect my wallet and my sense of security and safety in my community can however be credited to the lack of performance of the Bush administration to get things done that we needed done a long time ago, and I fully blame them for letting those things slide - so I agree with you Danny about the government wasting time. Too many soft programs and not enough hard decisions being made.

So here we are. With another opportunity. But I'm not confident in any candidate to solve these problems in any sort of satisfactory manner, or affordable manner, given the layers of red tape and litigation our system has created.

Which leads me to a quandry - why do people who don't want others telling them what to do vote for political parties which have historically created more government to regulate and control more of what the people do?
and you don't personally feel it doesn't mean rights weren't taken away. The privacy of my emails and phone calls is under attack as well as everyone else's. Even though I have no reason to hide anything, that doesn't mean I want them to be able to get into my private information in the future. Once you open a door like that, you open other doors. The key to maintaining our freedom, we can't just wait until they're knocking on our own personal door, the key is to stop it BEFORE. Bush gave more power to the government so they can just make any excuse to look into anyone's email and tap their phone lines. He should not have that right.
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Who's we? Personally that is not ALL I care about. There are plenty of other problems that need fixing. Cheaper gas prices don't mean jack if the value of the dollar continues to fall. Then there's the war on terror, the war on drugs, the war in Iraq, our failing education system that puts us behind most of the civilized world. The war is a much bigger issue than high gas prices, unless you actually believe that your money is more important than innocent lives. In fact the war is the prime cause of this recession we're having, plus the high gas prices.

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Is that so? I spend approximately $300 (and rising) per month on gas. I do drive more than the average, but most of it is work related and I do not have a choice in the matter. That's just under 10% of what I make. I guarantee there are plenty of people out there that make much less than I do, and it's probably closer to 20% of income spent on gas. I mean I could stop driving and quit my job... but then money will be even more scarce. When I was 16, working at the movie theater for my first job I spent a much smaller percentage on gas, than I do today and I make something like 8 times that now.

Dang, Bush is sure leaving a big mess for the next president. I completely agree that he should be impeached. You can't let a president of the world's largest superpower to get away with breaking the law. I don't think that focusing on that will have any effect on gas prices. How would it? It has nothing to do with us. It's the oil companies who turn in record profits quarter after quarter. We suffer, they celebrate their "success".

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