Links to info on the coming many crisis-es

[Christian223]

Ok, i have been watching info on the many crisis that will come starting in the very near future (before next year or the begining of it, the dollar will collapse, probably along with third world war started), i want to share with you a few good youtube videos that talk about them, watch them, and prepare yourself for them, specially if you are a Christian follower of Jesus Christ, prophecies are comming to fullfilment (not be decieved, pay attention to liars read 2 Thesalonians 2) :


Dollar collapse:
YouTube - The Ultimate American Dollar Collapse
YouTube - Ron Paul Discusses Coming Dollar Collapse
YouTube - The inevitable collapse of the dollar
YouTube - Alex Jones: US Dollar Collapse


North American Union:
YouTube - NORTH AMERICAN UNION
YouTube - The Dangers of the "North American Union"

Martial Law:
YouTube - MARTIAL LAW, A MILITARY DICTATORSHIP
YouTube - Illuminati Freemason concentration camps in USA America (1)

Biblical prophecies for this time:
YouTube - The END of the World! - Part 1 of 3
YouTube - World War III and Prophecy - Part 1 of 3
YouTube - Yahweh's instructions to Richard Perry Post 911 (he has many videos, check them out)
YouTube - 2 Billion to Die (within the next 12 months?) part 1

Food crisis:
YouTube - "The Hidden Battle for the World Food System"

Third world war:
YouTube - World War 3 is on.....Energy,Food,Price,Technology,Religion
YouTube - World war 3 has begun!

Jesus bless you all.

[Eric Revelin]

People have been saying similar things throughout history. This present time is no more turbulent than the cold-war era and we got through that just fine. Perhaps the number of things that could go wrong is slightly higher than it's been before, but security is always an illusion. Whether a threat is clearly perceived or falls from the sky, if you want to be afraid there's plenty of reasons.

Does that mean all of this is no different than Chicken Little yelling about the sky falling? Not at all. We face some real threats, but this isn't the end. It is an end of an era, perhaps. But the world? Humanity? Things will merely change. It seems that on the whole we're taking real concerns and exaggerating them until we lose all perspective.

Most so-called prophecy is either A. Vague enough that it can be applied to nearly anything. B. Discovered/made up after the fact. Many end-time prophecies within the bible are misinterpretations of political writings intended for the era the text was written. The imagery is powerful and politics doesn't change much, ergo it's no surprise it can be re-worked to fit whatever is currently going on. I've seen such prophecies re-interpreted so many times within the last ten years alone that I've trouble taking it seriously.

But I digress. Whatever happens happens.

[Brutha]

I think Superempowerment is the main thread for the next 20 years.

Food crisis may be bad for some third would countries but in the west we could also pay 10 times what we pay at the moment for food.
We probably would have more vegetarians throught.

I don't think that a North American Union will be created in the next year. If one will be created it would probably like the EU be created over a long time.

[Christian223]

Originally Posted by Brutha

I think Superempowerment is the main thread for the next 20 years.

Food crisis may be bad for some third would countries but in the west we could also pay 10 times what we pay at the moment for food.
We probably would have more vegetarians throught.

I don't think that a North American Union will be created in the next year. If one will be created it would probably like the EU be created over a long time.

"Pay 10 times what we pay"? how can you pay that much when you are in a ressecion?, or even worse, in a deprecion?, or even worse!, in martial law? or third world war?.

Did you know that the dollar is falling and falling?. Inform yourself about this. It has a rational and logical explanation for this to happen, its a reality.

Did you know that North America consumes more from exports rather than consuming what it produces?. Most countries are slowly stoping exports. Argentina, the country i live in, is famous for exporting foods, and right now we are having problems with the food productors, they are in protests because the govermnet takes so much money from their exportings that they can barely produce, at least thats what they say...

The north American Union should be created as a desperate measure i think, along with the Amero, just like the war against terrorism against Sadam Hussein. The EU took time, thats true, but the NAU allready started to be prepared long ago, it could be implemented anytime.

All this have logical explanations, inform yourself, you wont be informed of this by big mainstream media channels, except in very rare cases, because they dont want you to know these things, dont let it take you by surprise.

[Christian223]

Originally Posted by Eric Revelin

People have been saying similar things throughout history. This present time is no more turbulent than the cold-war era and we got through that just fine. Perhaps the number of things that could go wrong is slightly higher than it's been before, but security is always an illusion. Whether a threat is clearly perceived or falls from the sky, if you want to be afraid there's plenty of reasons.

If we talk about the present, the now, right now, things arent that bad, but also, the present facts are telling us that much much worse things are coming in the very near future, inform yourself of this things.

Besides, these are not just prohecies of old ladies, they are specific things that will happen, that are allready happening, warned by people who know about this things, like the pieces of a puzzle, they all fit together to form a picture of world crisis. You know, if you knew that the economy would crash, you would be wise to prepare yourself, thats just what these info is for. If you knew that an atomic bomb would fall where you are sitting at, you would be wise to get a few thousans of kilometers away from there, i would be wise enough do that.

Does that mean all of this is no different than Chicken Little yelling about the sky falling? Not at all.

For anynoe who belives its no different: Please inform yourself, all this things are real. They are not dreams of old ladies, not tales of children, its the reality, please inform yourself, please take it seriously, youll see how real it is once you understand what is happening, once you see the proof.

We face some real threats, but this isn't the end. It is an end of an era, perhaps. But the world? Humanity?

The world will end, we are not immortal, we can be destroyed, what makes you think we are un-destructible?.

Things will merely change. It seems that on the whole we're taking real concerns and exaggerating them until we lose all perspective.

These facts predict a crisis, or rather, many crisis, at least you should take that part if you dont want to belive in the end of the world part, but the crisis we are about to face, and that many people around the world are facing right now, are real.

Most so-called prophecy is either A. Vague enough that it can be applied to nearly anything. B. Discovered/made up after the fact. Many end-time prophecies within the bible are misinterpretations of political writings intended for the era the text was written. The imagery is powerful and politics doesn't change much, ergo it's no surprise it can be re-worked to fit whatever is currently going on. I've seen such prophecies re-interpreted so many times within the last ten years alone that I've trouble taking it seriously.

Its true that there were many interpretations... what can i say... well, there will be a point in time where you will be surrounded by so many proofs that it would be hard to deny this things are happening, and that the prohpecies are fullfilling, well, there is proof right now, that things ARE HAPPENING NOW, and that more will happen, you just have to inform yourself, please do so, prepare yourself while you still have time.

But I digress. Whatever happens happens.

Yes, i agree . But better to be prepared for whatever happens, right?.

[schola]

As far as conspiracy theories and prophecies go, the coming dollar collapse is neither. The information is there for anyone who cares to look. Personally, I believe in a few conspiracy theories too, like the conspiracy to create a North American Union, but I understand how one could be skeptical of this claim. But there is enough information available for even the hardcore skeptic to agree that very bad economic times are coming.

I agree with Eric Revelin. Security is an illusion. There are a huge number of "bad things" that could happen to us at any time - either as individuals or as a country or planet.

Most of the intelligent and responsible habits we have are there "just in case" some very very unlikely event happens. For example, on any given drive, the odds are not that great that you will be involved in a high speed car crash, but you probably still wear your seatbelt every time you pull out of the driveway.

So there is nothing wrong taking extra precautions . If you perceive that you are in danger, you should act to reduce that danger. You can do some things to prepare and help others prepare too. After that, it's all in God's hands and the only thing you can do is accept the cards you are dealt.

I think as long as our preparations are based on love of ourselves and others, and not fear, it is right to take precautions.

[Eric Revelin]

The trouble with preparing is knowing how to balance it with a normal lifestyle. Again, in nearly every era within the last century there has been some major crisis looming just beyond the horizon and people have always said, "this is the end of the world!" If I knew for a fact an atomic bomb was headed my way you bet I'd get out of here. But an atomic bomb isn't going to hit, not now, and if it does I'll be caught completely by surprise. I'll have no regrets simply because the only way I'd be able to avoid it is if I were completely paranoid and got out of here just because. (Or my intuition kicked in, which I would listen to.)

With much of this there isn't much the average person can do to prepare. If martial law is declared, what can we do to fight it? A group of people with hordes of guns could only fend off trained soldiers and policeman for so long. Successful efforts would be countered with greater force. This is assuming the soldiers follow their orders. If we're talking US troops patrolling US soil, a lot of them have family and friends. They would have to be totally brainwashed to turn on them and I'd be willing to bet at least 10% of these soldiers would go AWOL.

But that's not something that can be predicted with absolute certainty. None of this is predicted with absolute certainty. Some of it is just conspiracy theory. Conspiracy theories are often based on truth but they make huge leaps of logic and come to unreasonable conclusions. It reminds me of the big Y2K scare and how people built shelters and horded food and guns for that, though I think some of this has a greater chance of happening.

It doesn't seem like it's the fulfillment of prophecy so much as the guessers have to accurately predict the future at some point. While I certainly don't think humanity is immortal, I don't believe any of this is going to be as major as many conjecture. Many lives may be lost, things might change drastically, but when it's all said and done the planet will still be here and so will we. This is nothing more than an unsustainable paradigm crashing down so it can be replaced. That's a very healthy thing. If we grow up we'll be fine. If we don't we'll live our worst nightmares.

[schola]

Originally Posted by Eric Revelin

(Or my intuition kicked in, which I would listen to.)

I'm glad you said that. I agree 100%. We should analyze the data and claims being made on both sides of any issue, but when it comes to deciding what action we should take personally, intuition is second to none.

That doesn't mean we can stick our head in the sand and ignore what is going on out in the real world. Intuition isn't a psychic power that will help us see the future or know the right answer to any issue. But personally, I've found it is a good indicator of what my "next step" should be. It tells me what issues I need to do some research on, and what issues can be ignored.

That's my advice to anyone who comes across these scary future scenarios. Trust your intuition.

[Brutha]

Did you know that the dollar is falling and falling?. Inform yourself about this. It has a rational and logical explanation for this to happen, its a reality.

I do think that the dollar will continue to fall a bit, but you need a lot more to crash a currency.

If we're talking US troops patrolling US soil, a lot of them have family and friends. They would have to be totally brainwashed to turn on them and I'd be willing to bet at least 10% of these soldiers would go AWOL.

Exactly. You need time to etablish a climate where people accept a political change.
Political change happens over time. It dump to push political change faster than you can change opinions in the citizins.

The Iraq war needed a press campain to get Americans to support it's start.

A group of people with hordes of guns could only fend off trained soldiers and policeman for so long.

Look at Lebanon for an example how an armed nonstate can succeed against a state.

In addition Guns are so last century.

[Dave Kaminski]

Originally Posted by Brutha

I do think that the dollar will continue to fall a bit, but you need a lot more to crash a currency.

Exactly. You need time to etablish a climate where people accept a political change.
Political change happens over time. It dump to push political change faster than you can change opinions in the citizins.

The Iraq war needed a press campain to get Americans to support it's start.
Look at Lebanon for an example how an armed nonstate can succeed against a state.

In addition Guns are so last century.

And what, Brutha, is you suggested weapon of choice for defeating a tyrannical state in the 21st?

I'd say it's knowledge, and this guy seems to be offering that weapon straight forward!

[Brutha]

And what, Brutha, is you suggested weapon of choice for defeating a tyrannical state in the 21st?

I don't think that this is the place to discuss how to make war.
I rather want to increase peoples awareness of peaceful activities.
You even have a few problems these days with promoting how-to material as in how to build a bomb.
If you want to search for yourself, the keyword is superempowerment which can take a few different forms.

I'd say it's knowledge, and this guy seems to be offering that weapon straight forward!

Knowledge was always important in war even before guns were invented.

[Dave Kaminski]

Ah, I didn't mean weapons in terms of war, I meant how do you suggest we bring down the tyranny with tools of peace.

If you mean by your reply that the only way to tackle this issue is through more war, then I hate to say it but I'm not on your side on this one. I'm not talking about warring against the internal tyrants of the US, I'm talking about ending their wars once and for all.

[ogrekilleat]

The trouble with preparing is knowing how to balance it with a normal lifestyle. Again, in nearly every era within the last century there has been some major crisis looming just beyond the horizon and people have always said, "this is the end of the world!"

What if a normal lifestyle and preparation, and for an added bonus, prevention, could be one and the same thing? Wouldn't that be ideal? (Details below)

This is nothing more than an unsustainable paradigm crashing down so it can be replaced.

Yes, that's absolutely right. I keep hearing people say that nothing bad will happen, that things will go on as they are...but in my opinion, that IS the bad thing that could happen. (My favorite bumper sticker: "If we don't change direction, we'll end up where we're going." )

But really, unsustainable individual lifestyles crash all the time. You keep spending more than you make, and eventually you can't handle the debt. You have an overdramatic family life, and suddenly the family explodes. You're an alcoholic, and it works for a while, but suddenly everything falls apart.

That could well be the root of whatever crisis may come. Maybe it will continue on a limited individual basis, or maybe it will happen to more and more people, and there WILL be a major economic collapse...because of individuals making unsustainable choices.

The answer is for people to choose sustainable lifestyles. Now, you're probably saying, "That won't help if there's a conspiracy." What about sustainable lifestyles in the face of martial law, and rich people conspiring to consolidate wealth?

But a sustainable lifestyle reduces and ideally eliminates dependency on immoral economic forces. A sustainable lifestyle involves simplicity, not purchasing unnecessary or immorally -produced or -marketed goods, supporting local ecomony, helping other people to develop their local economies through such things as fair trade and microloan programs, building community networks that will help people in times of individual or collective crisis.

A sustainable lifestyle is good now AND and in times of crisis. Converting to a sustainable lifestyle will help stave off both individual financial collapse, and society-wide financial collapse, plus it will help to drive immoral and oppressive corporations out of business, and reduce the power of individuals who would rather we NOT have healthy, happy lives.

And what, Brutha, is you suggested weapon of choice for defeating a tyrannical state in the 21st?

The answer... *dramatic pause* ... is Quakarism (at least for me, since it is one of several religious philosophies that advocates a sustainable lifestyle, helps in practical ways to develop such a lifestyle, and provides community networking tools for handling both individual and collective crises)

[Brutha]

Ah, I didn't mean weapons in terms of war, I meant how do you suggest we bring down the tyranny with tools of peace.

If martial law is declared, what can we do to fight it? A group of people with hordes of guns could only fend off trained soldiers and policeman for so long.

Guns aren't tools of peace in my mind.
Guns are old weapons of war. Making war on trained soldiers and policeman is more effective with other tools than guns.

If you mean by your reply that the only way to tackle this issue is through more war, then I hate to say it but I'm not on your side on this one.

No, I didn't.

If you try to win through peace you focus on getting a majoity of important people on your side.
At the present a tyrannay in the US would simply crumble.
Soldiers (especially the generals) and public servant just wouldn't play along.

To get those people to play along the people in power would need to create a strong narrative that makes their actions 'right'.

If you are peaceful, you try to have your own narrative that counter that narrative.

Basically it's about marketing.

A sustainable lifestyle is also a great thing to prevent catastrophes.
In addition it helps you to cope in a crisis.

[Christian223]

Originally Posted by Brutha

At the present a tyrannay in the US would simply crumble.
Soldiers (especially the generals) and public servant just wouldn't play along.

To get those people to play along the people in power would need to create a strong narrative that makes their actions 'right'.

If you are peaceful, you try to have your own narrative that counter that narrative.

Basically it's about marketing.

Unless once again they must unite against a common enemy.
And they will create a strong narrative, just like the one in TW 9/11.
Yes, marketing, or rather, politics and manipulation of information.

This videos explain this:

YouTube - Zeitgeist - The Movie: World Trade Center (Part 3 of 4)

YouTube - Zeitgeist - The Movie: Federal Reserve (Part 1 of 5)

[Brutha]

Unless once again they must unite against a common enemy.
And they will create a strong narrative, just like the one in TW 9/11.

The one after 9/11 wouldn't be enough.
US citizen are scared enough of there government that they wouldn't accept global martial law.
You see there are actually some very smart people in the US.

[Christian223]

A few days ago i saw this papers that they where giving on the streets, it introduced a solution to the upcoming crisis, a new economical order, here is a video on it:

YouTube - One Year Later: Lyndon LaRouche Webcast July 22, 2008

[pkeod]

Just... what ever you do: don't let the hysteria get to you. Unless the world is seriously about to end, it's better not to spend your waking hours thinking about terrible things that have yet to happen.

[The David]

Originally Posted by pkeod

Just... what ever you do: don't let the hysteria get to you. Unless the world is seriously about to end, it's better not to spend your waking hours thinking about terrible things that have yet to happen.

Thank you, Voice of Reason.

Hysteria = easier to manipulate.