WARNING: Take a close look at the Fox News logo

[Tasaio]

HA HA.

YouTube - Who's That Hiding In My Fox 5 News Logo?

I doubt Fox News' viewers will be affected. Fortunately, hypnosis doesn't work on smart people...

Oh, wait.

[Jennihul]

Tricky...

But Republicans hired an actor (Reagan) and a clown (Bush) to represent their party so they apparently aren't smart, I guess.

Jennifer

[Brutha]

Fortunately, hypnosis doesn't work on smart people...

The more IQ you have, the easier it is to hypnotise you on average.

[Dannyboy1]

Has anyone determined if this is fake or not? If it's for real we should all be pissed!

[Dan.Linehan]

Originally Posted by Dannyboy1

Has anyone determined if this is fake or not? If it's for real we should all be pissed!

What good would being pissed do?

If anything, simply boycott Fox News's sponsors.

[Dannyboy1]

Originally Posted by Dan.Linehan

What good would being pissed do?

If anything, simply boycott Fox News's sponsors.

Somebody needs to wake America up. What, you think because you're on the path to enlightenment, you can't be brainwashed? Throughout history it's always been arrogance that's been the downfall of all the greatest civilizations. "Oh, that kind of thing can't happen in today's modern world." Human beings are human beings and if they don't learn from history, they will make the same mistakes, no matter how "SMART" they are. Our government is quickly becomming a tyranny and people are just going about their lives. This is not a joke. The republican party is out of control. Subliminal messages are proven to work. They used to do it in movie theaters to get people to buy candy and soda until they made it illegal. They should kick McCain out of the election now. This is too big for someone outside of his power to have done. This isn't some radical freak. This is the heads of FOX. The NEWS. The one thing that's supposed to be unbiased about the whole thing. He should be held accountable for that. Are we not responsible for our taxes no matter if we didn't know our accountant was illegally evading taxes? Yes. So why the hell shouldn't he be held responsible??? This is just so blatently bad. It's like slipping drugs into someone's drink. They're trying to do our thinking for us. They're literally trying to brainwash us against our will. I mean, they're treating us like a cult would treat their members. It's no better than scientology. It's dangerous. It's like Hitler. Once they start down that road and we allow it, we're in deep deep trouble. This guy isn't even president yet and he's got someone powerful enough to buy out FOX. It should scare the **** out of you. It's got Bush written all over it. He already invaded the privacy of millions of people by doing wire taps and reading emails. He stole the election. He rigged the voting. It's like no one will touch this guy! He hasn't had to answer for one of his horrible mistakes. He's killed tens of thousands (by his count) of innocent Iraqi civilians. It's scary.

[WanderingOak]

Originally Posted by Dannyboy1

Subliminal messages are proven to work. They used to do it in movie theaters to get people to buy candy and soda until they made it illegal.

I'm sorry to say this, but you are wrong. The "movie theater subliminal message" has been disproved as a hoax.

Originally Posted by Dannyboy1

They should kick McCain out of the election now. This is too big for someone outside of his power to have done. This isn't some radical freak. This is the heads of FOX. The NEWS. The one thing that's supposed to be unbiased about the whole thing.

Uhhh, no. Faux news has been the spin-doctor of this administration for the past seven years. They may claim to be 'fair and balanced', but I don't think anybody really believes that. McCain probably didn't have anything to do with that logo, and it should be obvious who Fox news is going to be behind during the election.

[wolfgang]

Why wouldn't this just be a random background clip that someone pasted into the mix?

I think it's paranoid to see it as a conspiracy of FOX news being bought.

I don't watch FOX news anyway - give me BBC.

[Dan.Linehan]

I'm just saying that there are bigger fish to fry. Especially considering that the US has been torturing detainees to death. And considering that the US occupation of Iraq resulted in the deaths of up to a million Iraqi citizens.

Shouldn't you be more concerned that Bush admitted to approving torture? Have you read through the autopsies of the men and women we tortured to death?

[nvictor]

Fox News is the most biased news station running today. The sad thing is that they got the news pretty fast, so it's our own duty to do the filtering.

[Brutha]

The sad thing is that they got the news pretty fast, so it's our own duty to do the filtering.

Fast news correlates with badly researched news. Good researched news takes time.
Don't settle for fast news, it like fast food. You think that you have got a good meal but there is nothing in it.

[Still Growing]

Originally Posted by Dannyboy1

Has anyone determined if this is fake or not? If it's for real we should all be pissed!

Why should you be pissed? Its not the "Public Broadcasting System" station paid by tax dollars. Its a independent corporation that can chose to be bias.

Also even if they are bias it doesn't mean you shouldn't watch because you'll be able to see what their position is. Fox is no more biased than CNN, NBC or CBS.

Fox saw that all major media was liberal and they took a business decision to be more right based to cater to that audience.

Let's not forget that about half the people are Republican.

Jenihul said Republicans aren't that smart. I'm not a Republican nor a Democrat but I'm not so sure that this is an accurate statement.

[Dannyboy1]

Originally Posted by Still Growing

Why should you be pissed? Its not the "Public Broadcasting System" station paid by tax dollars. Its a independent corporation that can chose to be bias.

Also even if they are bias it doesn't mean you shouldn't watch because you'll be able to see what their position is. Fox is no more biased than CNN, NBC or CBS.

Fox saw that all major media was liberal and they took a business decision to be more right based to cater to that audience.

Let's not forget that about half the people are Republican.

Jenihul said Republicans aren't that smart. I'm not a Republican nor a Democrat but I'm not so sure that this is an accurate statement.

My point is they shouldn't be allowed to try and slip things into my head without my knowledge. It's a cult-like brainwashing technique and it has no place in an election. The news should be unbiased, but you're right. Everything is owned by someone now. News is entertainment and very biased. It's pretty much tabloid all the way around. The days of cutting edge journalism where reporters try to root out the truth in politics is gone. Now, all they care about is what's more sensational. They'll skew things for dirty politicians without batting an eye now, as long as they're getting paid. I'd at least like to get a fair election without this underhanded manipulation going on all the time. Is it possible? I don't know. But I think being apathetic about it is a mistake.

[Brutha]

Its a independent corporation that can chose to be bias.

News network promise to be unbaised.

When they become biased they break their promise and that is wrong.

[Rosie]

Ok, that is so lame. That is not a subliminal message. He is part of the news, therefore they put his picture on there. There's nothing more to it. Guys you're looking too much in to these things.

[Eric Revelin]

Things like that are always getting slipped into TV shows. The only recourse is to stop watching or put up with it while staying vigilant. They've all got their agendas to push. Everything is owned by corporations. The news isn't information, it's sensationalistic entertainment with a pro-corporate spin.

[Dannyboy1]

Originally Posted by Rosie

Ok, that is so lame. That is not a subliminal message. He is part of the news, therefore they put his picture on there. There's nothing more to it. Guys you're looking too much in to these things.

He is the only person flashed on the screen. It's not like they flashed a bunch of stuff and it's very indicative of subliminal persuasion. Have you read anything about subliminal messaging? It's absolutely a legitimate concern and it has proven to be effective. My friend who is very active in politics told me it's no surprise to him because it's well known that FOX is for McCain. You can dismiss it, but it has all the makings of a subliminal flash. It's too obvious to be a mistake.

[Brutha]

Have you read anything about subliminal messaging?

Yes and it turn out that it isn't as effective as real messaging.

It's absolutely a legitimate concern and it has proven to be effective.

Where has it proven to be effective?

[Dannyboy1]

Originally Posted by Brutha

Yes and it turn out that it isn't as effective as real messaging.
Where has it proven to be effective?

You're seriously arguing that subliminal messages never work? I think it's common knowledge that any kind of repetative visual stimulation will make you think more about whatever it is that's being flashed. Obviously "how effective" is questionable, but that's not the point of this discussion. The point is that they're even trying to do it, it's wrong. And, if there's even the slightest chance it could have an effect on the vote, it should not be allowed. A line has to be drawn somewhere. You can say, "Well, if you don't like it, don't watch TV. Then you can't be affected." But, what about the people who don't realize they're being manipulated (which is most people)? Maybe this won't have an effect, but we shouldn't allow them to even try it. If we let this go, what will they try next? Subliminal audio that's barely audible under your favorite TV show? "John McCain for President John McCain for President John McCain for President John McCain for President" Don't think they won't try it if we let them. They'll push it as far as they can. We should be able to watch the news objectively without any attempts to brainwash us, whether they work or not.

[Eric Revelin]

Originally Posted by Dannyboy1

You're seriously arguing that subliminal messages never work? I think it's common knowledge that any kind of repetative visual stimulation will make you think more about whatever it is that's being flashed.

If you're not quoting real studies, you're just spouting opinion. Yes, it's wrong to try and manipulate people, but television networks do it all the time. The people that get duped aren't gonna be the victims of seeing McCain flashed in the background as the Fox News logo is displayed. The bigger concern is all the misinformation they're being fed to them the rest of the time.

It's also worth noting that Fox News has a reputation for right-wing bias and false information. Ignorance is no excuse; the people who believe what Fox News tells them do so at their own peril. Whether it's right or it's wrong, there are bigger fish to fry and better causes to fight for.

[Dannyboy1]

Originally Posted by Eric Revelin

If you're not quoting real studies, you're just spouting opinion. Yes, it's wrong to try and manipulate people, but television networks do it all the time. The people that get duped aren't gonna be the victims of seeing McCain flashed in the background as the Fox News logo is displayed. The bigger concern is all the misinformation they're being fed to them the rest of the time.

It's also worth noting that Fox News has a reputation for right-wing bias and false information. Ignorance is no excuse; the people who believe what Fox News tells them do so at their own peril. Whether it's right or it's wrong, there are bigger fish to fry and better causes to fight for.

I'm not sure why you're resisting facts. If there's a picture of zebra on the door leading into your office that you have to look at everyday, you're going to think more about zebras. If you disagree with that, you're ego is blocking you from reason to protect you from being "wrong". I could go and spend my time searching for studies to impress you, but I don't know you well enough to invest myself that much, especially when you are so positive you're right that you deny a simple fundamental psychological truth.

As far as "people" as you call them are concerned, you're right. It's not your responsibility to educate them. And, you're right, ignorance is not an excuse, it's a fact. Many many people in this country are ignorant. We can choose to ignore that fact and just worry about ourselves, or we can attempt to be part of the solution. I'm not sure what your "bigger fish to fry" are, but personally, I consider ignorance the major problem with this country. You may not think this FOX thing is important, that's fine. But to tell people they're wrong to question it because YOU don't think it's important is wasting the time you could be using to "fry" your bigger fish. Maybe you should go start a thread on what you think is important to change and let the rest of us discuss the topic of this thread. If it's so unimportant, why are you here talking about it?

[Still Growing]

Originally Posted by Brutha

News network promise to be unbaised.

When they become biased they break their promise and that is wrong.

I agree.

[Still Growing]

Originally Posted by Eric Revelin

It's also worth noting that Fox News has a reputation for right-wing bias and false information. Ignorance is no excuse; the people who believe what Fox News tells them do so at their own peril.

I agree Fox News has a right-wing bias. That is wrong.

CNN, NBC and MSNBC have a left wing bias. Which is also wrong.

Do you agree?

[Dan.Linehan]

Originally Posted by Still Growing

CNN, NBC and MSNBC have a left wing bias. Which is also wrong.

I don't agree with that.

All the media, for example, had a bias towards pushing into the Iraq war.

[Eric Revelin]

Originally Posted by Still Growing

I agree Fox News has a right-wing bias. That is wrong.

CNN, NBC and MSNBC have a left wing bias. Which is also wrong.

Do you agree?

I have no opinion. What they do is up to them. It's up to us to be discerning. They only get away with peddling falsehoods because we keep listening. News is a business. We stop listening, they stop making money, they have to find a new model.

Moral or not, I don't like what they do. I don't like the fact that the media presents every issue as if there are only two sides. I don't like the fact that they worship some political figures while the ones I'm truly interested in, like Ron Paul and Ralph Nader, are marginalized or ignored. The only mainstream news I get is the headlines shown when I log into my e-mail account. I've boycotted everything else.

[Still Growing]

Originally Posted by Dan.Linehan

I don't agree with that.

All the media, for example, had a bias towards pushing into the Iraq war.

So you think Fox news is Right Wing and NBC, CNN and MSNBC are just fair and impartial to either party? You're kidding right???

All the media "had" a bias towards pushing into the Iraq war. Had being the key word.

There are millions of topics in which to highlight the biases of each station... Iraq is not the only hotpoint.

Dan, I want to hear it from you.... "Do you think Fox is right wing bias and the other stations are fair with no bias..." Thats what I hear you saying but could you confirm it.

[Still Growing]

Eric,
You want to know why their are only two parties in power and why the media ignores other potential candidates?

Because the advertisers and shareholders of the major news channels have either the Rep or Dems or both in their pockets. Why would they want an outsider they don't control?

The media just cares about making money and pandering to their advertisers and shareholders. Its pathetic.