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05-18-2008, 11:57 AM
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 I was being dramatic when I used the word "melt." It wouldn't melt the Earth, but it would devastate the ozone layer and the GRB would probably incinerate all life in the path of the burst. People on the other side of the planet would be spared the horror of the immediate burst, but they would suffer the long term effects, namely exposure to cosmic rays. Basically: GRB = Sterilization of all life above ground on Earth. The History Channel has had a couple of interesting shows that included topics about GRBs.      |
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05-18-2008, 02:39 PM
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| That was on last night. The odds of getting hit with a GRB are pretty remote. The asteroid collision is statistically more likely. But all of the ancients say in their predictions that "we will have the power to reverse the outcome" and they aren't talking about lasers and spacecraft. They seem to indicate that this will be a human power. A spiritual power. So maybe I don't think big enough but I don't see us possessing the power to stop an asteroid in it's tracks or deflect a GRB. But we do have to power to prevent other humans from destroying our world. We also have the power to rebound from a human-made source of destruction provided that our planet remains largely inact. Jennifer |
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05-18-2008, 02:45 PM
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I guess there would be no way to protect against that, short of having some force field around the earth that we can activate just before the rays hit ( assuming we can predict when that is ).
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05-18-2008, 03:01 PM
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| We do have actual science and evidence. We don't need to grope around in the dark for conjectures and wildly speculative "scientific" theories that don't even fit in with Newton's laws let alone contemporary science, let alone New Science - the science uniting physics with Consciousness. The fact is that current mainstream science is not all there is. If you want to truly understand 2012 from an intellectual perspective you'll have to explore the new science. The fundamental part of the New Science is that there is an energy field more basic than all currently accepted subatomic particles. More basic than all mainstream accepted science. This field has been proven scientifically to exist but it is so new and so strange that it is taking awhile to become accepted. Just like how it took quantum mechanics several decades to percolate down into the mind of the common man (and I suppose most people are still totally ignorant of the truth of quantum phenomenon) this new science has made leaps and bounds and is changing the world but remains out of the public sight. David Wilcock thoroughly discusses this science on his website, so I present to you his site where you can begin your education if you're interested. Begin with this article, written in 2003. Things have become even more fascinating since then, and most of the info is available from the website. Divine Cosmos - What is Ascension? Last edited by yossarian : 05-18-2008 at 03:03 PM. |
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05-18-2008, 10:53 PM
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05-18-2008, 10:59 PM
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05-20-2008, 08:06 AM
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I didn't see any judgement of you in Smarky's statement, only denial of the truth of your belief. Surely you don't expect us all to believe what you do about the god of hell do you ? You brought Jesus up as an authority on endtimes, so you can expect to be challenged on it , right ? I'm just sayin ... 
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06-03-2008, 04:51 AM
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| End Of Daze. "End of Days" Wasn't that an Arnold Shwartzenagrer film? Funny Spell check caught his name... It must be the end. Armageddon is the state of human belief, when all humanity is focussed to the negative the positive will rise. EVIL has a positive side, doesn't it? It's hard to be positive in an negative world since the flesh follows the mind. Or is it the mind follows the flesh? Or the heart is meager to the flesh? Anyways, You know what I mean... Ooh... I found it... "For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places." Ephesians 6:12, KJV Last edited by Craiz8 : 06-03-2008 at 05:20 AM. |
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06-04-2008, 03:52 PM
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06-04-2008, 04:19 PM
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| Let's say a disaster strikes on 12/21/2012, and the earth and everything on it is destroyed. Knowing that, does that change how you live your life? If so, maybe this is the best thing that ever happened to you -- that you now get to live your life brimming with aware, conscious choice. Do you choose fear? Or do you choose making a difference in the world while it's still here, or something else? Your world is certainly going to end; maybe on that date, probably on another. Are you willing to choose being satisfied and fulfilled, knowing that to be true? Or are you going to choose to be a Survivalist, in the largest sense of the word? The extremely good news about the impending end of the world is: You get to choose who you're going to be in the meanwhile. |
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06-12-2008, 08:07 PM
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The complusive feeling is a Scorpio energy (everyone feels this energy in their lives whether they are Scorpios or not). The Phoenix... destroy and rebuild from the ashes... to start anew. |
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06-12-2008, 08:14 PM
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| I predict... All the dates on every computer in the world will screw up, thus shutting everything down. Planes will crash, power will go out, and all of us who survive will have to resort to living off the land. Oh, wait. That already happened on Y2K! Right? |
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06-12-2008, 08:15 PM
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| BTW... to the people who are so SURE the world is not going to meet with disaster... You are wrong. I don't know the date... And I'm not talking about prophecy either... I'm talking about straightforward physics, statistics and numbers.... Population increase and the simple fact that when the population reaches a certain point, we will run out of resources. All resources, food, oil, water etc. The earth is a closed system, we can not keep growing unchecked and expect the earth is going to expand to make way for more land to grow food on or water to drink. It's absolutely fricking impossible. Therefore there is bound to be a huge change before the population hits 8-9 billion or before. Therefore, something is going to have to happen, whether we all die in from destroying the earth, or half of us die to bring down the population, we can not just keep multiplying and multiplying without anything ever changing concerning how we use resources. |
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06-17-2008, 04:13 PM
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| Yeah it's not really a matter of if. It's a matter of when. That yellowstone supervolcano could wipe out a good percentage of life on earth and it is 30,000 years overdue. It might just need one gravitional/magnetic abnormality to set it off. There's no saying it will definitely happen in 2012, but it appears as if the stage will be set. The sun will be at it's peak in the 12,000 year cycle or whatever and we will be lined up with the galactic center AND the sun. Couldn't a whole bunch of massive solar flares do some damage? |
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06-17-2008, 06:41 PM
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06-19-2008, 09:37 PM
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World population to reach 7 billion in 2012 - USATODAY.com |
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06-20-2008, 01:09 AM
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| 12/21/2012 is where the Mayan calendar stops. The Mayans were gifted with their ability to move through 'time'. Occasionally time would skip a beat and the Mayans would go searching until they reconnected with the stream of time. When they hit 12/21/2012, time was broken again. They went out into the ethers and searched, and searched, ever deeper and deeper. They never picked up the stream of time again. They concluded that at that point, there is no more time. Forget deforestation, pollution, or overpopulation, the current shift in consciousness will do you in before any of that other stuff will. Pretend you have two pieces of carpet in front of you. The one on the left is the current consciousness, the one on the right is the consciousness we are currently flowing into. When the consciousness of the cosmos shifts, it pulls the carpet on the left, and if that's all you're standing on -- game over. This is how humanity usually does it. Think of past ice ages. That was a consciousness shift and is what unconscious transformation looks like on the physical level. So yes, the possibility of your experience being Armageddon, earth changes, cataclysm, and total breakdown of society is real. Now, if you have one foot on the carpet on the left and one on the carpet on the right, and consciousness pulls the left one, at least you still have one leg to stand on. It will be shaky, uncomfortable, but you'll still make the shift... consciously. No idea what this will be like, humanity doesn't do conscious shifting. Hopefully there's a big BBQ and beer. So get busy, get in the moment, practice presence, practice receiving the moment as it is, without resistance, and you'll be on your way to a smooth transition.
__________________ --There's nowhere to go, nothing to do. My blog which I haven't updated in a long time. |
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06-20-2008, 01:35 AM
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| Hysteria Sure anything could happen. There are those that like to use events such as this to stir up fear and paranoia. Maybe it will happen, maybe not. Why worry about that which you have no control over. Personally I do not think that it is the end of the world, rather it signifies a change in consciousness which seems to be all around if you look for it. Am looking forward to having fun on 12-22-2012 and beyond...
__________________ Most people who are in the cemetery would gladly trade places with you. |
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07-14-2008, 06:40 PM
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I happen to be a scientist in a field that specifically deals with the earth. I believe common sense would legitimize MY statement in any case. You go on to say, that you are MORE worried about loggers... UM OK ... here's a big question.... WHY are you worried about loggers? Why exactly would you ever have to worry about loggers destroying the earth... when as you say... we will adapt, or move to the moon... where there are interestingly... no trees (at all) or wonderful species to be worried about. Not to mention you say loggers will destroy 50% of species in 50 years… that totally sounds apocalyptic to me. You claim you deny apocalypse and yet in the next breath say you are worried about loggers destroying the earth and it’s biodiversity. By the way… humans will not adapt or move everyone to the moon in the next 50 years. We’ll be lucky if a select few even get back to the moon, and we’ll never adapt to eating plastic bags from landfills when all the trees are chopped and the species dead (as you claim). Why exactly do you think loggers log trees? Do you think it's because they are inherently evil? Or do you think that maybe the increase in population has to do with increased demand on our earthly resources... such as trees. What happens when more people need loggers to log more trees and your 50% of species statistic (that is also NOT referenced) turns into more like 90% of species or whatever number that ultimately causes ecosystem collapse. Where are we going to get money to send everybody to the moon. Where are we going to get water, trees, etc to eat and survive on the moon? Denial. You are arguing the same thing as me, you just don't realize it. Last edited by Stormcaller : 07-14-2008 at 07:14 PM. |
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07-16-2008, 04:52 PM
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| It's incredibly arrogant for people to think we can destroy the world. Maybe we can pollute it beyond use for our own survival, but we can't destroy the entire planet. 99.99% of all life that has ever existed on earth has gone extinct, and almost all of that is without mankind's influence. Look at a plant. A plants waste product is oxygen. Well, that means that every single plant and piece of algae on the surface of the earth was poisoning the atmosphere for a huge number of years, but we're here now, right? I'm on the fence about this myself. Half of me laughs about all of the doomsday scenarios I've seen, or about these "accurate" computations for black holes, super volcano "Best Exploded By:12/21/2012" dates, and the idea that races and civilizations through history have been time travelers. You can say that I'm judging or being ignorant, I just find it hard to believe. Maybe the Mayans just were, I don't know, wrong? Maybe they just stopped at 2012? Is it possible that there was another set of calendars made starting 12/22/2012 but have been destroyed since, or simply not yet found? For all of their wisdom, this is also who the Mayans were- "If the interpretations of the priests spelled bad times to come, sacrifices would be performed to please the gods. Sacrifices might be small animals like chickens, or "bloodletting" by high officials, and sometimes included human sacrifices. They would engage in rituals such as cutting their own ears, tongues, and penises with the intention of satisfying the gods." Maya religion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia The other half of me reacts as it always has to bad news- better safe than sorry. No, I'm not building a bomb shelter or anything or secretly hoarding food. Rather, I'm enlisting in the Air Force to be a survival specialist for a lot of reasons. I'd be lying if I said that one of those reasons was NOT as a sort of insurance for just-in-case. It's like global warming- there's equal amounts of research, studys, and evidence on either side of the board that keep the debate (and answer) from showing itself.
__________________ "The snail reached the ark by perseverance" "You cannot leap a 20-foot chasm in two 10-foot leaps" "Perfection is the ultimate goal because it is unattainable" "Never mistake movement for action" |
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