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infinitethoughts · 03-16-2008, 08:33 PM

The Air Car
The fiberglass MiniC.A.T. runs on compressed air, and offers zero pollution and very low running costs.

Business Week article LINK:
The Air Car

BBC Video LINK:
BBC Media Player

Flixxy.com Video LINK:
Car Runs On Air

From the Business Week article:
Tata Motors is India's largest automobile company, with revenues of US$ 5.5 billion in 2005-06. With over 4 million Tata vehicles on Indian roads, it is the leader in commercial vehicles and the second largest in passenger vehicles. It is also the world's fifth largest medium and heavy truck manufacturer and the second largest heavy bus manufacturer.

Tata has signed an agreement with MDI for application in India of MDI's engine technology, (underline my edit) and believes the engine is viable – it's press statement described it as "efficient, cost-effective, scalable, and capable of other applications such as power generation".

About time.
World can't stand much more of the levels of present day Pollution we now have, in my opinion. Oil companies may soon be standing trial for years of their suppression (through the usual means of buying up patents and locking them up and sometimes through outright violence) of technology that in the past have threatened their profits.

mncz · 03-16-2008, 10:18 PM

Oh thank god. Finally some other power other than America, which is chained in oil slavery has enough financial and brainpower to be able to develop an alternative to the current transportation - plus it is green. If this works out, it may be as great as the invention of the steam engine.

About time indeed.

Brutha · 03-17-2008, 11:48 AM

Whether it is green depends on how the energy that creates the compresed air is created.
When that energy is generated through burning coal it is anything but green.

Unfortunatly most energy is produced through nongreen means.

Savage · 03-17-2008, 03:05 PM

Will the USA be going to war against India soon?

Akashic_Librarian · 03-17-2008, 04:00 PM

Nah George Bush will just make sure the price of the "compressed air" keeps up with petrol prices, so as "to make the competition fair"

Erki · 03-17-2008, 05:47 PM

Well, actually cars running on petrol or diesel mostly run on compressed air too. I think the ratio petrol-air was 1:10 or somesuch. Fuel is just needed to increase the volume of the air so that the piston would be pushed back.

I wonder what do they use instead fuel then. Maybe I should click one of the links in the original post instead being smarty pants.

jamestl2 · 03-17-2008, 06:13 PM

Big Oil will hold this car done for as long as they can, just as they have kept the electric and water-powered cars a secret. It'll cut deeply into their profits.

infinitethoughts · 03-17-2008, 07:47 PM

Yeah, It'll be interesting to watch how this thing gets played out. I agree, obviously we're in a hostile arena, with Big Oil mucking everything they can get their hands on, in the background.

The good news, is Big Oil's little Demon seed will soon be out. But then what are the agenda's of Obama or Hillary concerning Big Oil, is the question ??

---

This is interesting, just found the U.S. Distributor.
Zero Pollution Motors - Air Car

infinitethoughts · 03-17-2008, 07:56 PM

The plot thickens.
Hell I may have to buy stock in this damn company.

Automaker Tata's presence already felt in Detroit area [Detroit Free Press]
Knight Ridder/Tribune 03/17/2008 8:39 AM ET

Tata Motors, the Indian automaker that's about to burst on the global scene as the new owner of Jaguar and Land Rover and a long-term partner for Ford Motor Co., is the other face of globalization. It is a foreign company that employs hundreds of people in metro Detroit and plans to boost its workforce substantially in the region over the next three years.

Automaker Tata's presence already felt in Detroit area [Detroit Free Press] - BusinessWeek

prasunsen · 03-17-2008, 08:02 PM

For sure there are more effective methods to compress the air than using oil. Typically these compressors use electricy which you know can come from everything - wind, sun, water, nuclear. Just like driving electric bikes and cars is much cheaper and more evergy effective than driving oil ones, this compressed air car is more energy effective. But it won't have their huge disadvantages - very low speed, long time of charging the batteries and short time to drive. There comes the cost of 1.5 Euros for 200 km. It's similar with the electric bikes, but the technology solves the problems which stopped the electrics to win the market.

infinitethoughts · 03-19-2008, 04:51 PM

One thing I'd like to add that I just realized is, this car actually "eats" pollution. (Trippy concept.)
Another solid reason why this technology should (and will be, in my opinion) mainstream.

The air intake of the engine is filtered thru charcoal filters, now granted charcoal filters don't take out all pollution. Here's the beauty of it, the output of the engine's air is cleaner then the air that went in !

mncz · 03-19-2008, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina

Will the USA be going to war against India soon?

Too late! They already have nuclear weapons and everyone knows about it! :P

Dave Kaminski · 03-21-2008, 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinitethoughts

Yeah, It'll be interesting to watch how this thing gets played out. I agree, obviously we're in a hostile arena, with Big Oil mucking everything they can get their hands on, in the background.

The good news, is Big Oil's little Demon seed will soon be out. But then what are the agenda's of Obama or Hillary concerning Big Oil, is the question ??

---

This is interesting, just found the U.S. Distributor.
Zero Pollution Motors - Air Car

The oil is just a part of it. As long as the Fed owns all the money, it doesn't much matter who is spending it and what on, because they make at least four cents off of every dollar for doing nothing at all. Gotta love compound interest... :\

Erki · 03-21-2008, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by infinitethoughts

One thing I'd like to add that I just realized is, this car actually "eats" pollution. (Trippy concept.)
Another solid reason why this technology should (and will be, in my opinion) mainstream.

The air intake of the engine is filtered thru charcoal filters, now granted charcoal filters don't take out all pollution. Here's the beauty of it, the output of the engine's air is cleaner then the air that went in !

What happens to the filters? They're sure gonna be dirt ugly.

03-16-2008, 08:33 PM	#1 (permalink)
infinitethoughts Family Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,156	This is Huge. Car runs on Compressed air. ZERO Emissions. The Air Car The fiberglass MiniC.A.T. runs on compressed air, and offers zero pollution and very low running costs. Business Week article LINK: The Air Car BBC Video LINK: BBC Media Player Flixxy.com Video LINK: Car Runs On Air From the Business Week article: Tata Motors is India's largest automobile company, with revenues of US$ 5.5 billion in 2005-06. With over 4 million Tata vehicles on Indian roads, it is the leader in commercial vehicles and the second largest in passenger vehicles. It is also the world's fifth largest medium and heavy truck manufacturer and the second largest heavy bus manufacturer. Tata has signed an agreement with MDI for application in India of MDI's engine technology, (underline my edit) and believes the engine is viable – it's press statement described it as "efficient, cost-effective, scalable, and capable of other applications such as power generation". About time. World can't stand much more of the levels of present day Pollution we now have, in my opinion. Oil companies may soon be standing trial for years of their suppression (through the usual means of buying up patents and locking them up and sometimes through outright violence) of technology that in the past have threatened their profits. Last edited by infinitethoughts; 03-16-2008 at 08:36 PM.

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03-16-2008, 10:18 PM	#2 (permalink)
mncz Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 175	Oh thank god. Finally some other power other than America, which is chained in oil slavery has enough financial and brainpower to be able to develop an alternative to the current transportation - plus it is green. If this works out, it may be as great as the invention of the steam engine. About time indeed.

03-17-2008, 11:48 AM	#3 (permalink)
Brutha Family Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 8,749	Whether it is green depends on how the energy that creates the compresed air is created. When that energy is generated through burning coal it is anything but green. Unfortunatly most energy is produced through nongreen means.

03-17-2008, 04:00 PM	#5 (permalink)
Akashic_Librarian Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: The Darkness / The Never Posts: 1,673	Nah George Bush will just make sure the price of the "compressed air" keeps up with petrol prices, so as "to make the competition fair"

03-17-2008, 05:47 PM	#6 (permalink)
Erki Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 789	Well, actually cars running on petrol or diesel mostly run on compressed air too. I think the ratio petrol-air was 1:10 or somesuch. Fuel is just needed to increase the volume of the air so that the piston would be pushed back. I wonder what do they use instead fuel then. Maybe I should click one of the links in the original post instead being smarty pants.

03-17-2008, 06:13 PM	#7 (permalink)
jamestl2 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: What of it? Posts: 724	Big Oil will hold this car done for as long as they can, just as they have kept the electric and water-powered cars a secret. It'll cut deeply into their profits.

03-17-2008, 07:47 PM	#8 (permalink)
infinitethoughts Family Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,156	Yeah, It'll be interesting to watch how this thing gets played out. I agree, obviously we're in a hostile arena, with Big Oil mucking everything they can get their hands on, in the background. The good news, is Big Oil's little Demon seed will soon be out. But then what are the agenda's of Obama or Hillary concerning Big Oil, is the question ?? --- This is interesting, just found the U.S. Distributor. Zero Pollution Motors - Air Car

03-17-2008, 07:56 PM	#9 (permalink)
infinitethoughts Family Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,156	The plot thickens. Hell I may have to buy stock in this damn company. Automaker Tata's presence already felt in Detroit area [Detroit Free Press] Knight Ridder/Tribune 03/17/2008 8:39 AM ET Tata Motors, the Indian automaker that's about to burst on the global scene as the new owner of Jaguar and Land Rover and a long-term partner for Ford Motor Co., is the other face of globalization. It is a foreign company that employs hundreds of people in metro Detroit and plans to boost its workforce substantially in the region over the next three years. Automaker Tata's presence already felt in Detroit area [Detroit Free Press] - BusinessWeek

03-17-2008, 08:02 PM	#10 (permalink)
prasunsen Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 57	For sure there are more effective methods to compress the air than using oil. Typically these compressors use electricy which you know can come from everything - wind, sun, water, nuclear. Just like driving electric bikes and cars is much cheaper and more evergy effective than driving oil ones, this compressed air car is more energy effective. But it won't have their huge disadvantages - very low speed, long time of charging the batteries and short time to drive. There comes the cost of 1.5 Euros for 200 km. It's similar with the electric bikes, but the technology solves the problems which stopped the electrics to win the market.

03-19-2008, 04:51 PM	#11 (permalink)
infinitethoughts Family Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 1,156	One thing I'd like to add that I just realized is, this car actually "eats" pollution. (Trippy concept.) Another solid reason why this technology should (and will be, in my opinion) mainstream. The air intake of the engine is filtered thru charcoal filters, now granted charcoal filters don't take out all pollution. Here's the beauty of it, the output of the engine's air is cleaner then the air that went in !

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