Obama vs. McCain -- how would you vote?

[Tasaio]

Assuming Obama gets the Democrat nomination (likely) and McCain gets the Republican nomination (almost certain), how will you vote?

[Tasaio]

Vote Obama.

He's not perfect, but he'll do. Better than McCain on all the issues.

[schola]

I wouldn't count out Hillary just yet. She's still very much in this race.

Between Obama, Clinton, and McCain, I'd vote for Obama.

[A2K89]

Third party (depends) or not at all.

I don't care to choose the lesser of two evils. Either way people will be jumping to rip off their Obama or Mccain bumper sticker 2-4 years after the election.

Oh and I think its pretty obvious no Republican will be President, by nominating Mccain the Republicans seem to be just giving the democrats the election. It will be amusing after the Democrat is nominated though, and all the dems start acting all proud for being able to dominate whacko Mccain in a debate.

[coollikeme]

Obama I don't know what his policies are? Does he even have any?

[schola]

Originally Posted by coollikeme

Obama I don't know what his policies are? Does he even have any?

CHANGE
© All Rights Reserved Obama 2008

[frankfortpost]

Obama or McCain?

Socialism and Socialism?

I'll pass.

[Barcs]

I'm voting 3rd party this go around, but if I had to choose, I'd pick Obama by a mile over both Hillary and McCain. We definitely need change right now. I'm pretty sure it's almost guaranteed that a democrat will take this election after the past 8 years we've had, and quite frankly I don't think McCain has a chance.

[Lola]

Obama, Obama, Obama.

[Gabo]

While I greatly dislike Hilary, Obama's style of campaign frightens me.

Rather than gaining support by his policies and past decisions, he whips his followers into a fervor with ambiguous positive ideals, almost reminiscient of a revivalist preacher.

Obama's supporters remind me of cultists more than political activists. They shout and scream in favor of vague ideas that don't even resemble the Senator's actual voting record.


Personally, I couldn't care less whether Obama or McCain wins.
They both support the national ID card, the Patriot Act, the Homegrown Terrorism Act, pre-emptive nuclear strikes, and other horribly intrusive policies.

As of now I will be casting my vote for Ron Paul, because he is the only candidate that stands up for freedom and peace. Faced with an intentional blackout by the media, I feel that asserting my freedom by voting for Paul is the best thing to do.

[Amadeus]

Yea I would vote for Barrack Hussein Obama because he has so much experience..........and he has such a long successful track record in Congress....I guess. He makes women in the front row faint and then there is that youtube video "yes we can". That is good enough for me. He talks so well and his words about words are breathtaking (laughing my ass off).

[oberlee]

Obama. I don't LIKE McCain's policies, but the only good thing about having an evil jackass in office is that anyone else--even McCain--will be an improvement. I mean, he's intelligent at least.

Anyway, Obama has a lot of policies. You just need to read and listen and watch more things than "Yes we can" videos. His marketing tactic is "change" but he has specific policies like any other candidate. He has a great one--don't know how plausible--about offering scholarship college $$ to youth in exchange for community service.

However, we can't count Hillary out. She's good in all the way Obama's not, and vice versa. I like them both, but being a young, liberal-ish woman living in Oakland, Obama speaks right to my heart.

And, um...he has a GREAT track record. Look him up. He's made a huge difference since he's been in the Senate.

[Amadeus]

Huge difference? Like.......what????

[Gabo]

Originally Posted by oberlee

His marketing tactic is "change" but he has specific policies like any other candidate.

That is precisely the problem.
His policies are just like any other candidate.
And the other candidates have horrible policies like endless war and violations of our liberties, things he seems to go right along with.

He has a great one--don't know how plausible--about offering scholarship college $$ to youth in exchange for community service.

I hate what the modern "community service" movement has done to volunteering. It used to be that people volunteered because they wanted to help others, especially those at a disadvantage.

Nowadays people seem to think that we have to give rewards, perks, and benefits in order to seduce people into volunteering. It undermines the whole point of volunteering in the first place, which used to be giving help to others and asking nothing in return.

I am a college student myself, and I pay for it by working as I go to school.
Anyone with a determined mindset that is willing to put in the time can pay for their school by working, and doing so does not put further strain on the massive federal budget.

And, um...he has a GREAT track record. Look him up. He's made a huge difference since he's been in the Senate.

Here is the track record I care about:

Voted YES on the Patriot Act
Voted YES on renewing the Patriot Act
Voted YES on Real ID

That about does it for me. He is clearly a pro-establishment, anti-freedom candidate, just like any other. Anyone that votes for such tyrannical bills does not deserve my vote.

[FrancescoBellafante]

Originally Posted by Lola

Obama, Obama, Obama.

I'm with Lola...

I am the President of the United States dot com

[Nelson]

personally i wanted Ron Paul to win the republican nomination but it doesn't seem like the representtatives are following the voice of the people. Looks like they wern't counting on my vote to get them re-elected

Anyways, between those choices I'll definitely vote McCain. While I defintely prefer Obama's Iraq version McCain is offering tax cuts out the yin-yang. (Unfortunately, we Americans are gonna need some tax cuts if either of these guys gets elected).

P.S. I'm only saying I'll vote McCain for this exercise - I'm still voting Ron Paul no matter what the damn ballot says.

[Sam988]

First, I'm not from the US... But I would go for McCain, since his liberal views about technology (like stem cell research) resonate better with me. The more funding for technology, the better.

[Tasaio]

Originally Posted by Sam988

First, I'm not from the US... But I would go for McCain, since his liberal views about technology (like stem cell research) resonate better with me. The more funding for technology, the better.

...

WHAT?

What are you talking about? Surely you have the candidates mixed up?

McCain opposes embryonic stem cell research that uses cloned human embryos, but supports research using human embryos left over from fertility treatments. In 2006, McCain supported a trio of Senate bills designed to increase federal funding for adult stem cell research, ban the creation of embryos for research and offer federal support for research using embryos slated for destruction by fertility clinics.

Obama supports relaxing federal restrictions on embryonic stem cell research. He voted for the Stem Cell Research Enhancement Act of 2005, which was vetoed by President Bush. The bill would have allowed federal funding to be used for research on stem cell lines obtained from discarded human embryos originally created for fertility treatments.

I'm guessing that you've been misinformed.

[Barcs]

Here is the track record I care about:

Voted YES on the Patriot Act
Voted YES on renewing the Patriot Act
Voted YES on Real ID

I'm pretty sure if you check all 3 candidates in the running you will see the same exact thing. That's a shame and partially why I'm going 3rd party (probably Nader) this year.

[Gabo]

Originally Posted by Barcs

I'm pretty sure if you check all 3 candidates in the running you will see the same exact thing. That's a shame and partially why I'm going 3rd party (probably Nader) this year.

There are still 5 candidates running:

Clinton
Obama
McCain
Huckabee
Paul


Of the 5, four of them do vote the exact same way.
Paul is the exception, which is why he gets my vote.

[coollikeme]

Gabo: Ron Paul never counted. What a waste of time he was..

[WanderingOak]

All I have to say is 'is this the best we can come up with?'. If I had the choice, it would be 'none of the above'. McCain wants to keep us in Iraq bloody well neigh on forever, so he's right out. Hillary Clinton is the one who got us involved in Bosnia, picking sides in a regional civil war, and more than likely, she'll do it again in Kosovo, or worse, Iran. As for Obama, charisma will probably win him the election, because that is one thing that neither Hillary or McCain has. However, charisma, hope, change, or chanting 'yes we can' won't mean squat once he is in the White House. I don't think he has the experience required to do what is necessary to right the economy and get our foreign policy screwed on straight.

[Dave Kaminski]

Originally Posted by Gabo

That is precisely the problem.
His policies are just like any other candidate.
And the other candidates have horrible policies like endless war and violations of our liberties, things he seems to go right along with.


I hate what the modern "community service" movement has done to volunteering. It used to be that people volunteered because they wanted to help others, especially those at a disadvantage.

Nowadays people seem to think that we have to give rewards, perks, and benefits in order to seduce people into volunteering. It undermines the whole point of volunteering in the first place, which used to be giving help to others and asking nothing in return.

I am a college student myself, and I pay for it by working as I go to school.
Anyone with a determined mindset that is willing to put in the time can pay for their school by working, and doing so does not put further strain on the massive federal budget.



Here is the track record I care about:

Voted YES on the Patriot Act
Voted YES on renewing the Patriot Act
Voted YES on Real ID

That about does it for me. He is clearly a pro-establishment, anti-freedom candidate, just like any other. Anyone that votes for such tyrannical bills does not deserve my vote.

You are honestly awesome. Way to keep focus on the things that matter. Clearly no chance of Ron Paul sadly & he was the only one I'd've liked to see in office. I'm seriously considering relocating because the US clearly isn't the place I'd like to raise a child.