Steve Jobs is dead

[Laurenaus]

Steve Jobs Is Dead

[lifetimelearner]

Originally Posted by Laurenaus

Steve Jobs Is Dead

I just saw that !

[ChrisDP]

Something quite fitting for this site to remember him by.

Steve Jobs' 2005 Stanford Commencement Address

[Sbonn]

My boyfriend just told me a little bit ago

Thank you for being a visionary Steve J.!

[illbreaker]

R.I.P. Steve Jobs

[Solipsist]

Yeah, geez. This is like, Thomas Edison dying. Or Henry Ford.

[MariconesUnited]

Thank you for everything Steve!!

[cacheborn]

Rip.

[supertom]

RIP Steve Jobs

On Bill Gates
“I wish him the best, I really do. I just think he and Microsoft are a bit narrow. He’d be a broader guy if he had dropped acid once or gone off to an ashram when he was younger.”

[Ken Benjamin]

Hearing about Steve Jobs' death was far more meaningful than I had realized. I had a 35 year connection with a man I never met but wish I had.

"Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose. You are already naked. There is no reason not to follow your heart."♥- Steve Jobs

I wrote about him here: RIP Steve Jobs | WisdomWebsite.com

[Andrew Gubb]

“Why join the navy if you can be a pirate?”



"I was actually a fruitarian at that point in time. I ate only fruit. Now I'm a garbage can like everyone else. And we were about three months late in filing a fictitious business name so I threatened to call the company Apple Computer unless someone suggested a more interesting name by five o'clock that day. Hoping to stimulate creativity. And it stuck. And that's why we're called Apple."

[MariconesUnited]

Originally Posted by Andrew Gubb

"I was actually a fruitarian at that point in time. I ate only fruit. Now I'm a garbage can like everyone else. And we were about three months late in filing a fictitious business name so I threatened to call the company Apple Computer unless someone suggested a more interesting name by five o'clock that day. Hoping to stimulate creativity. And it stuck. And that's why we're called Apple."

LOL that's hilarious! I'm gonna miss him. Much more than I thought I would. I hope his innovative spirit remains with the company.

[lifetimelearner]

" Almost everything--all external expectations, all pride, all fear of embarrassment or failure--these things just fall away in the face of death, leaving only what is truly important. Remembering that you are going to die is the best way I know to avoid the trap of thinking you have something to lose. You are already naked. There is no reason not to follow your heart." ~
Steve Jobs

[Packman]

An interesting read, the article that inspired Steve Jobs. About the long distance hacking device back in the 70's...

Steve Jobs and the Little Blue Box: How Ron Rosenbaum’s 1971 article about phone phreaks helped launch Apple. - Slate Magazine

[Ken Benjamin]

Originally Posted by Packman

An interesting read, the article that inspired Steve Jobs. About the long distance hacking device back in the 70's...

Steve Jobs and the Little Blue Box: How Ron Rosenbaum’s 1971 article about phone phreaks helped launch Apple. - Slate Magazine

Ah, the good old days when simply leaving off the extra 4 tones formed by the Dual Tone Multi Frequency (DTMF) system used on touch-tone phones from the keypad was considered enough security.

It's about the same as securing a website by 'hiding' it on a different port number.

I thought of building one myself but had no desire to rip off AT&T.

[russianrocket]

Originally Posted by Solipsist

Yeah, geez. This is like, Thomas Edison dying. Or Henry Ford.

Umm, no, not even close.

[elucidate]

Originally Posted by russianrocket

Umm, no, not even close.

Thomas Edison was a fraud. He stole "his ideas" from Nikolai Tesla and didn't even give him credit for his inventions. Tesla died alone and unknown and people have only just started paying homage to him in the last few years for his contribution to humanity.

[JSB]

No, Edison invented plenty on his own. He did, however, actively campaign against some of Tesla's work (esp. AC power), and cheated Tesla out of payment for improvements he made to existing systems. Edison was a great inventor, but intellectually, he was nowhere near Nikola Tesla. Sadly, for all his scientific and engineering genius, Tesla was a terrible businessman and died poor.

Originally Posted by elucidate

Thomas Edison was a fraud. He stole "his ideas" from Nikolai Tesla and didn't even give him credit for his inventions. Tesla died alone and unknown and people have only just started paying homage to him in the last few years for his contribution to humanity.

[elucidate]

Originally Posted by JSB

No, Edison invented plenty on his own. He did, however, actively campaign against some of Tesla's work (esp. AC power), and cheated Tesla out of payment for improvements he made to existing systems. Edison was a great inventor, but intellectually, he was nowhere near Nikola Tesla. Sadly, for all his scientific and engineering genius, Tesla was a terrible businessman and died poor.

Ah, ok. Yes, you're right. But I thought that he not only campaigned against AC power, but also took his ideas and put his name to them as well whilst at the same time kicking Tesla to the curb without paying him? Maybe I got that wrong?

I think you're right about Tesla not being a very good businessman though. Someone so up there intellectually would probably have a hard time adapting to the world of regular people.

[supertom]

Originally Posted by JSB

No, Edison invented plenty on his own. He did, however, actively campaign against some of Tesla's work (esp. AC power), and cheated Tesla out of payment for improvements he made to existing systems. Edison was a great inventor, but intellectually, he was nowhere near Nikola Tesla. Sadly, for all his scientific and engineering genius, Tesla was a terrible businessman and died poor.

He turned down the chance to become mega-rich, he wanted everyone to afford he was more into contribution to humanity.

[Manasarovar]

Originally Posted by JSB

No, Edison invented plenty on his own. He did, however, actively campaign against some of Tesla's work (esp. AC power), and cheated Tesla out of payment for improvements he made to existing systems. Edison was a great inventor, but intellectually, he was nowhere near Nikola Tesla. Sadly, for all his scientific and engineering genius, Tesla was a terrible businessman and died poor.

Yeah he got a bum deal.
Nikola Tesla In Family Guy - YouTube

[russianrocket]

Originally Posted by elucidate

Thomas Edison was a fraud. He stole "his ideas" from Nikolai Tesla and didn't even give him credit for his inventions. Tesla died alone and unknown and people have only just started paying homage to him in the last few years for his contribution to humanity.

Well, in that case maybe they are more alike .


But no, as mentioned Edison did invent a lot too. He changed the world. I don't know if I'd say the same for Jobs. Did he even change the world for the better? Bunch of iPhones and iPads... I dunno. He might have done a lot, but he had 100's of people behind him doing the actual work. People make him out to be this monumental hero. I just don't see it what's so ever. He was not that good of a man at all. Tho, I suppose you can't be a genius and a hero at the same time?

What Everyone Is Too Polite to Say About Steve Jobs

[elucidate]

Originally Posted by russianrocket

Did he even change the world for the better? Bunch of iPhones and iPads... I dunno. He might have done a lot, but he had 100's of people behind him doing the actual work. People make him out to be this monumental hero. I just don't see it what's so ever. He was not that good of a man at all. Tho, I suppose you can't be a genius and a hero at the same time?

The only thing I really like about iphones are the hipstomatic camera installed. It takes the best photos, with this really great rough edge I like, and the colors come out so well. That would be the only reason I would buy one, as I have not found a camera that has the same effect anywhere. Apart from that I wouldn't and haven't been tempted to buy one.

As for iPads...I don't understand what the fuss is all about. Life was fine without them and I'm sure if they all disappeared tomorrow life would go on without them just fine.

As for the man himself, I can't really say. It's weird to me how so many people who never met the guy can speak of him as though they knew him. I never met him, so how would I know what sort of person he was? I'm sure he was a shrewd business person who, by the sounds of it didn't give a crap about people, just money. He may have been a loving husband, then again, he could have been an abusive dick...we don't really know. Maybe he was both at different times? If he didn't treat people very well, as your link suggests, then I wouldn't say he was a great guy at all, and therefore I would not have wanted to hang with him. Johnny Depp on the other hand...

It's the same as when Amy Winehouse died...never knew her, and yet everyone was devastated as though they knew her personally. Sure, she contributed to the world of music, and those who were into her I'm sure will miss her music, but they still didn't know her as a person. People die every day and the world doesn't stand still for them.

I'm sure loads of really decent people died this week who were more humanitarian than Steve Jobs was, but they don't get a mention. I never knew them either, so how can I miss them or be sad?

[Andrew Gubb]

Well apart from the iStuff Apple computers are actually quite good... the only thing I have against them is that most programs are made for windows. In all other respects it's a better system. Sucks that that first point makes such a difference though. For that reason alone I run Windows.

iPods are also currently the best MP3 players there are. They are just designed and made well, with the exception of one or two annoying things (no replaceable parts, for example... do we really have to throw a Pod away when the battery stops working?).

The world wouldn't be seriously worse off without iPods. No one would die. But I am grateful they exist in a world of MP3 players that are designed absolutely terribly.

[Manasarovar]

I have never owned any of the iStuff or a Mac. But I came across the commencement speech he gave at Stanford a while back and I was very inspired and moved by it. He seemed like a wise, humble and courageous guy.

And I liked how he always wore black turtlenecks. It must have been pretty cool not having to decide what to wear every morning. I heard Einstein did the same.

[pyrogen]

I have an iPad 2. If you don't think it is awesome, it is because you don't have one. It's totally freed me from my desk and made me more productive. I can get a lot of things done no matter where I am.

Using it now, in fact.

Thanks Steve!

[James Fletcher]

I don't know.

If anybody knows the history of Nintendo at their peak in the late 80s to the early 90s they'll notice some similarities between them and Apple today.

[Andrew Gubb]

Originally Posted by James Fletcher

I don't know.

If anybody knows the history of Nintendo at their peak in the late 80s to the early 90s they'll notice some similarities between them and Apple today.

For me Nintendo is still a very good games company?? If Apple is supposed to decline like Nintendo I don't see it as such an ignoble end. Nintendo just had to cede to some competition. They're still great. The best at what they do, in my opinion. If I were to get a console it'd be a Wii.

[Brutha]

What Everyone Is Too Polite to Say About Steve Jobs

I agree with that article.

The closed system where Apple censors stuff that runs on the device is terrible.
For those of you who don't know Coding Horror: Serving at the Pleasure of the King is a good article that describes Apples policies.

[irfan]

Thanks to everyone on this thread for introducing me to Nikola Tesla, I'd never heard of him. Fascinating! But I don't think his life was as grim as some people are making out, he had friends and was admired for his contributions, even if he didn't make a fortune. Reading about his character, I'm not surprixed he never became, well, a Steve Jobs. The Wikipedia article about him is very interesting.

A lot of people who developed the fundamental technologies that support the web, like http, are hardly known at all and only made an academics salary. It's not an uncommon story.

I didn't feel the need to take my hat off when Steve Jobs died, but I've never owned an Apple product. I'll take it off when Linus Torvalds dies, a much more interesting and paradigm changing individual.