Can we grow rich by blogging?

[aiyori]

Originally Posted by Liz Caitlin

Yes...which means his wife knew about he was open to exploring relationships with other people. He actually pointed out that he had been seeing someone before their divorce but that he hadn't even slept with her yet.

You clearly have a bias toward people who are monogamous. Which is fine. I just don't see how it affects his ability to write about business. In my book, fwiw, it's not cheating if two people AGREE to sleep with other people, and I think most people here would have the same (very logical) understanding of it.

No women would want her husband to sleep with other women. But anyway, it's off topic. I just want to say that it is very likely that Steve was banned by Adsense.

[aabbcc]

Originally Posted by Liz Caitlin

Yes...which means his wife knew about he was open to exploring relationships with other people ... In my book, fwiw, it's not cheating if two people AGREE to sleep with other people, and I think most people here would have the same (very logical) understanding of it.

Yes, I agree.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with choosing monogamy, but it doesn't automatically mean people who choose a different lifestyle are disloyal and/or dishonest.

[Lucidism]

Originally Posted by aiyori

No women would want her husband to sleep with other women.

Oh, that's not true. Many women even encourage it. Are you aware of swinging?

I doubt Steve was banned by Adsense. If he was banned, he would have said so. A guy who publicly announces him and his wife are free to have sex with others would probably have no problem announcing that Google is unhappy with him.

Steve talked about his earnings for a long time before deciding to remove Adsense. Many other well-known bloggers also talk about their earnings. Google doesn't care unless you start showing your exact checks and numbers.

[aiyori]

Originally Posted by Lucidism

Oh, that's not true. Many women even encourage it. Are you aware of swinging?

I doubt Steve was banned by Adsense. If he was banned, he would have said so. A guy who publicly announces him and his wife are free to have sex with others would probably have no problem announcing that Google is unhappy with him.

Steve talked about his earnings for a long time before deciding to remove Adsense. Many other well-known bloggers also talk about their earnings. Google doesn't care unless you start showing your exact checks and numbers.

I wish I were born in the United States.

[Marger]

Originally Posted by aiyori

1. Steve honestly told us that he is a convict. And he honestly told us that he had sex with women who were not his wife. If a man is not loyal to his wife, he is not loyal to anyone. I simply can't trust him 100%. That said, I like his articles a lot.

So we should believe you just because you are prejudiced, narrow-minded, misinformed and jumping to conclusions we cannot share? Strange way of making your point.

2. In your link, he didn't give any convincing reasons for dropping an annual income of 100k so completely and suddenly. It is too against common sense and thus some red flags are automatically raised. He is an entrepreneur and he should've known better than that.

What you are actually saying here: his reasons do not convince you, you think you decide what common sense is and how Steve should run his business. That kind of megalomania doesn't really help you to be taken seriously.

3. Steve was too high profile about his Add cents income, which was a big NO-NO for the Holy G. Legally speaking, the Holy G had every right and reason to terminate his account without paying him. I can't prove it. And I don't need to. It's written in the TOS.

So you cannot point us to the relevant part in the TOS, nor to the exact phrases in Steves writings that would violate them. In other words, you just make blind assumptions, mainly out of prejudice. You lost the discussion before you started it.

[aiyori]

Originally Posted by Marger

So we should believe you just because you are prejudiced, narrow-minded, misinformed and jumping to conclusions we cannot share? Strange way of making your point.

What you are actually saying here: his reasons do not convince you, you think you decide what common sense is and how Steve should run his business. That kind of megalomania doesn't really help you to be taken seriously.

So you cannot point us to the relevant part in the TOS, nor to the exact phrases in Steves writings that would violate them. In other words, you just make blind assumptions, mainly out of prejudice. You lost the discussion before you started it.

I don't have any proof. But I just feel that it is very very weird when a man tells me that he gives up a monthly income of several thousands.

[codenamesmiley]

Aiyori,

If I were Steve, I'd boot you off my forum and sue your ass for defamation of character and slander!

Can you share with us...WHY you are so hell bent on ripping on Steve? I do believe as per TOS, YOU ARE IN VIOLATION FOR DERAILING OF A THREAD!!!

I could give a **** less if Steve has murdered before!!! This forum has founded me some lasting friendships that are priceless, as well as helped me to help myself numerous times over. I see Steve doing good for many people...even indirectly. What have you done for the human race lately?

Be Blessed all,
Rebecca

[codenamesmiley]

Originally Posted by aiyori

I don't have any proof. But I just feel that it is very very weird when a man tells me that he gives up a monthly income of several thousands.

I assume, this is from a lifetime of surrounding yourself with shallow men? I'm sorry! I "ASS U ME"d again!

[aiyori]

Originally Posted by codenamesmiley

Aiyori,

If I were Steve, I'd boot you off my forum and sue your ass for defamation of character and slander!

Can you share with us...WHY you are so hell bent on ripping on Steve? I do believe as per TOS, YOU ARE IN VIOLATION FOR DERAILING OF A THREAD!!!

I could give a **** less if Steve has murdered before!!! This forum has founded me some lasting friendships that are priceless, as well as helped me to help myself numerous times over. I see Steve doing good for many people...even indirectly. What have you done for the human race lately?

Be Blessed all,
Rebecca

Okay. I apologize. Please stop talking about Steve and get back on the topic.

[givejonadollar]

Originally Posted by Gazzali

I just came across this article about blogging : time to hang up. Is this how the end going to be to all bloggers

When in sam hell has Newsweek ever been right about anything?

They are so poor on their reporting that they are up for sale and have been a bad joke in the industry for way too long.

[Weena]

Originally Posted by codenamesmiley

Aiyori,

If I were Steve, I'd boot you off my forum and sue your ass for defamation of character and slander!

Can you share with us...WHY you are so hell bent on ripping on Steve? I do believe as per TOS, YOU ARE IN VIOLATION FOR DERAILING OF A THREAD!!!

I could give a **** less if Steve has murdered before!!! This forum has founded me some lasting friendships that are priceless, as well as helped me to help myself numerous times over. I see Steve doing good for many people...even indirectly. What have you done for the human race lately?

Be Blessed all,
Rebecca

Same for me, i never found much in Steve's blog but i sure love his forums! I also met some amazing people through here so indirectly i think Steve provided value, definitely.

[Brutha]

But don't you think Steve wrote a book --> got rich --> blogged --> got richer because this is where he can advertise his book + his workshops + passive income from products advertised? there's more to it than just a blog isn't there?

Steve got his book contract through being a well known blogger.

Affiliate products are more effective for Steve than Ad Sense and as a result he dropped Ad Sense.
Affiliate products made him more money and didn't give him the problem of having advertisement for products he disagreed with on his website.

[aiyori]

Originally Posted by Brutha

Steve got his book contract through being a well known blogger.

Affiliate products are more effective for Steve than Ad Sense and as a result he dropped Ad Sense.
Affiliate products made him more money and didn't give him the problem of having advertisement for products he disagreed with on his website.

Yes, you're right.

Adsense adds cents to your accounts by taking away potential customers who may pay you dollars. This is a real problem.

[Equalizer]

Originally Posted by Gazzali

I just came across this article about blogging : time to hang up. Is this how the end going to be to all bloggers

You can't decide the future of your blogging career based on one article.

The problem with Daniel Lyon's blog was that very few people really care about a "fake Steve Jobs". More people would be interested in what the real Steve Jobs has to say.

Plus Daniel Lyons didn't really have a business model. He just published a bunch of fake posts and hoped to get rich with AdSense.

Very few people will get rich by just blogging. You need a business model, and you need to charge for products and/or services.

[Explinfin]

This was an entertaining derailed thread.

Yowsza!

[mainstreetcm]

Originally Posted by Equalizer

Very few people will get rich by just blogging. You need a business model, and you need to charge for products and/or services.

This cannot be any further from the truth. You don't "need' to sell anyhting other than advertising space. There is money in advertising, BIG money. Google Ads are just one option. It also doesn't matter what content you have either.

There are countless websites that get up to $5 per CPM for banner ads. Thus a website getting just 25,000 page loads is going to make $125 per day from banner ads alone. That translates into damn near $4,000 a month. Now imagine 100,000 daily views instead of 25,000.

Advertising has worked for television and radio, what makes the internet any different? If you want to make money from your blog, the key is to get traffic. The more traffic you get the more ad impressions you can cash in from.

[InterfaceLeader]

Certain types of blogs do better with adsense than other types. It's a bit like asking (back in the day) if it was possible to make money by printing and distributing newspapers and 'zines. The answer was yes, for some kinds of newspapers, and no for other kinds.

What business model you adopt should be related to what kind of blog you are writing. It's not a 'one size fits all' money making scheme.

[codenamesmiley]

Originally Posted by Explinfin

This was an entertaining derailed thread.

Yowsza!

No...looks like it's back on track.

[JustinDupre]

I think we can grow rich by blogging and connecting to the right audience. Its a good way to tell people who you are and share useful information and experience to the internet community.

[aiyori]

Originally Posted by mainstreetcm

This cannot be any further from the truth. You don't "need' to sell anyhting other than advertising space. There is money in advertising, BIG money. Google Ads are just one option. It also doesn't matter what content you have either.

There are countless websites that get up to $5 per CPM for banner ads. Thus a website getting just 25,000 page loads is going to make $125 per day from banner ads alone. That translates into damn near $4,000 a month. Now imagine 100,000 daily views instead of 25,000.

Advertising has worked for television and radio, what makes the internet any different? If you want to make money from your blog, the key is to get traffic. The more traffic you get the more ad impressions you can cash in from.

Isn't selling ad space a kind of service? Anyway, when I paid people for ad space via Paypal, I checked the "service" box.

[ianbarnes]

It is right that you can make good money from blogging, one way is to working of Google AdSense. Here are the steps which you need to follow to earn from Google AdSense.
1. Create a blog
2. Creating Google Adsense account and get some Adsense codes
3. Place the Adsense in your website
4. Get clicks from difference IPs and get money from google

[SheldonCooper]

I don't have anything against open marriages and I am very bad at structures that I think it might be a good idea. However, it is very strange but whenever a traditional marriage switches to open, it always seems to end in divorce coincidentally, even though the couple wouldn't ever attribute to the openness.. Imho it might be that once you decide to change your traditional marriage to an open one, mostly your marriage just jumped the shark and you did that all hoping you would stop the inevitable.

imho, if you want an open marriage, have it since the start.

Can we grow rich by blogging?

lol no. You'll be lucky if you are actually able to pay up for the opportunity cost in which you incur by using your time to blog.

Maybe some people can get good money through a blog, but chances are they are so skilled they could have gotten richer much faster through another method.

[Lucidism]

The nice thing about blogs and web sites is their potential for passive income. I created a web site years ago, just for fun, and I haven't touched it in years. Yet it still gives me $1,000-$2,000+ every year.

[mainstreetcm]

Originally Posted by aiyori

Isn't selling ad space a kind of service? Anyway, when I paid people for ad space via Paypal, I checked the "service" box.

The only way I would consider and/or sell it as a service was if I had to design the ads for my clients. But if I'm just selling advertising space (with pre-designed ads) then I am just selling an opportunity and exposure.

[newmark]

Providing the advertising space, and readership, is a service.

[elisabeth]

Originally Posted by Bradshaw

By pure blogging and putting a few adsense ads on the side? Er, no, unless you completely dominate extremely competitive markets like finance, law, etc. And even then I REALLY doubt it... it's tough doing it like this, even though this is what everyone does, for the most part.

By selling valuable products that give a lot of value to people as a byproduct of your blog?

Yes. And you don't need that much traffic.

No product = No money.

People need to realize that it's a business. And in a business you sell valuable products that people want.

I agree. Blogging CAN make money, but it's usually through one of the following methods:

1) Generate leads and customers for your business(es)
2) Sell ebooks, other stuff, and maybe have a membership site
3) Advertising/reviewing/recommending products by others
4) Adsense (yes, though you need very popular blogs and/or many of them)
5) Renting out adspace and/or writing paid postings to promote stuff

[elisabeth]

Originally Posted by Lucidism

The nice thing about blogs and web sites is their potential for passive income. I created a web site years ago, just for fun, and I haven't touched it in years. Yet it still gives me $1,000-$2,000+ every year.

Cool! Now if you build a bunch of them... ;-)

[Lucidism]

Originally Posted by elisabeth

Cool! Now if you build a bunch of them... ;-)

I know! I really should have been doing that 5 years ago when I had all that extra spare time. I played a lot of video games instead.

[Savage]

Originally Posted by aiyori

No women would want her husband to sleep with other women. But anyway, it's off topic. I just want to say that it is very likely that Steve was banned by Adsense.

Please don't troll about stuff you're clueless about. It's very uncool.

I'm still in the Adsense system and continue to get a trickle of income from them, partly because of cached pages and partly because I still use Adsense for Search and on some YouTube vids. I just don't use it on the blog or the rest of the website.

I explained why I dropped Adsense in my blog. That was the truth. If you have a hard time believe that, then consider working on your beliefs some more.

[Savage]

Hmmm... there's a bunch of speculation in this thread, some of it untrue.

I think that if you really wanted to comprehend my motivation for dropping Adsense, you'd have to get to know me in person. Then it would probably be obvious why it didn't mesh with me in the long run.

I'm not in a position where I have to make every business decision based on bottom line results. The financial repercussions are just one of many things to consider.

To succeed in blogging, you must provide a lot of value. In the end I felt the Adsense ads didn't do a good enough job of that.

After I dropped those ads, my income fell by about $9K per month, and I didn't have anything to replace it with at the time. Eventually I started doing workshops, which has essentially replaced that income with a new stream, although it's a lot more work and definitely not as passive. I'm okay with that.

When you're in a place of financial scarcity (or close to it), money seems a lot more important than it does when cashflow is consistently high, and money just seems to flow. I think my decisions would be hard to understand if you view them through a scarcity-based lens.