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Angela · 10-15-2009, 10:08 PM

Are you folks looking forward to Google Wave like I am? I'm really excited about what's possible in working with groups, including my mastermind group and possibly session groups, like negative emotion and limiting decision release groups.

Anyone on the beta list? I've requested an invitation.

Brutha · 10-15-2009, 10:11 PM

Yes, I also want an invite.

HAGITLOVE · 10-15-2009, 10:17 PM

Thank you

Trezker · 10-16-2009, 09:54 AM

I want wave too. I have a srong feeling it will revolutionize how people communicate information in the future. There's no other tool I know of that brings the necessary features together to make group work simple and quick.

I think the closest thing we have is forums, but to have a forum you have to set it up while google wave will just be there always ready for your new projects. Forums are also missing a couple of critical features for projects which means you also have to set up a wiki and issue tracker etc...

Lil Chris · 10-16-2009, 01:07 PM

This looks like it will have HUGE potential to make more things "live". Which will be kind of cool... I've requested an invitation too... Thanks Angela!

James81 · 10-16-2009, 02:34 PM

So, basically it's just an IM program? lol

The only feature that I can see that is different from IM is the ability to rewind and play the conversation back.

Brutha · 10-16-2009, 04:49 PM

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So, basically it's just an IM program? lol

Not really. It's also email.
And a wiki and a bunch of other things.

ScotiaCoast · 10-16-2009, 05:12 PM

I received my invite a few days ago, but I have only one contact so far, so it's fairly useless for now. Can't wait until a wider release, it's going to be awesome!

Gazzali · 10-17-2009, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Angela

Are you folks looking forward to Google Wave like I am? I'm really excited about what's possible in working with groups, including my mastermind group and possibly session groups, like negative emotion and limiting decision release groups.

Anyone on the beta list? I've requested an invitation.

it looks like a tsunami to me

Patricia · 10-17-2009, 09:03 AM

I got my invite today and started testing it. Can't say much at this point, as there aren't that many people using it yet - although it seems like they've just rolled out a bunch of new invites, so it shouldn't take long before there's enough critical mass.

It looks really promising and interesting, though.

ar81 · 10-17-2009, 09:41 PM

Call me old fashioned, but I still prefer forums.

Trezker · 10-18-2009, 08:52 PM

It keeps popping up on twitters trending topics. I don't know how many times I've seen in over the past few weeks and I can't imagine how many times it popped up when I'm not looking.

iDreamCatcher · 10-18-2009, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ar81

Call me old fashioned, but I still prefer forums.

I don't see how Google wave can replace solid forums either.
Quick-n-dirty threaded discussion playground - yes.
Bunch of social networking plugins for communication - yes.

GW will be quick and easy to install but you don't own the content that people generate - Google does.
I'd use it as possible enhancement for my forum, not as substitute.

Gleb

Brutha · 10-18-2009, 10:38 PM

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GW will be quick and easy to install but you don't own the content that people generate - Google does.

There nothing to install when you use google's servers.
Additionally the protocol is federated. You can set up your own Wave server and wave entirely outside of google.

Lil Chris · 10-19-2009, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Brutha

Additionally the protocol is federated. You can set up your own Wave server and wave entirely outside of google.

Can you provide a link to this info? Can it be run on a regular hosting platform?

Brutha · 10-19-2009, 05:10 PM

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Can you provide a link to this info? Can it be run on a regular hosting platform?

Introduction (Google Wave Federation Protocol) would be one link.
Google Wave is written in Java. A regular hosting account that offers PHP won't be enough.
You will also need to do some programming.

Michael Chui · 10-25-2009, 07:20 AM

Huh. A coworker brought this up last week but it didn't look very interesting just from the website. I went and watched the keynote, though, and it sold me. It's a lot like what I had been going for when I was more naive about the web: an integrated platform for different modes of discussion, except well, minus the design naivete.

Quote:

Originally Posted by James81

So, basically it's just an IM program? lol

The only feature that I can see that is different from IM is the ability to rewind and play the conversation back.

That's like calling Google Docs an IM program.

It'd be interesting for a Wave user to compare this against Docs or Spreadsheets to see which they think is better for what situations.

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Originally Posted by iDreamCatcher

I don't see how Google wave can replace solid forums either.
Quick-n-dirty threaded discussion playground - yes.
Bunch of social networking plugins for communication - yes.

Well, I don't think it's trying to replace forums. It's trying to replace email. And it's doing so by pulling in the advantages of forums.

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Originally Posted by Lil Chris

Can you provide a link to this info? Can it be run on a regular hosting platform?

This seems to be a huge part of what Wave is. The next thing I'm doing tonight is digging into the protocol specs to see if I can find something I can understand.

Communication is a weird thing, and our internet programs handle it very strangely. That's why we've got people talking about how their internet personality seems a lot different from their in-person one, and so on. I was quite fascinated with how Steve chose to use forums as his blog comments, for instance. Sure, it makes sense now a couple years later, but it was originally kinda weird. I'm expecting the same thing now, so now that I'm no longer writing it off (thanks Angela), I'm not going to expect much from it until I see stuff happening.

To be completely egotistical about it, I want to see how many of my ideas they'll unknowingly lift.

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Originally Posted by Brutha

Google Wave is written in Java.

Boo hiss Java.

Patricia · 10-27-2009, 09:42 PM

I think for the most part, people who haven't used Wave yet are misunderstanding the purpose - and that's ok, because until you try it for yourself, it's a little confusing to wrap your mind around the concept. I've been using it for about a week now and even at this early stage, there's nothing out there it can be accurately compared to. It's a new paradigm in terms of communication integration. It basically provides all the features you'd otherwise use separately (docs, maps, IM, email, images, videos, conference etc) in one single integrated environment, where users can interact one-on-one, in groups or even by themselves as a reference building tool. Ii guess that's the best way to put it at this point.

funnyav · 11-05-2009, 06:56 PM

i am still mildly irritated by the phenomenon i see: every time i come up with a great idea I hear google's just finished developing a usable beta...

Daffy Duck · 11-06-2009, 03:52 PM

I'm looking forward to trying this in the future. I don't think our current software taps the full potential of collaboration, so hopefully Google Wave can fill that gap.

Trezker · 11-07-2009, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by funnyav

i am still mildly irritated by the phenomenon i see: every time i come up with a great idea I hear google's just finished developing a usable beta...

Hehe, makes me think of the latest FLOSS Weekly.
The guest on the show develops a free implementation of flash. And during the show they brought up several things they wish someone would do and it went like.
"Host: Someone should make a free skype"
"Guest: Actually I'm working on that"
"Host: Someone should implement a free [something]"
"Guest: I was working on that last year"

Gene · 11-07-2009, 03:03 PM

I've tried Google Wave briefly. I am still leaning the potential it offers. I will continue to use it and decide if it has a place in my personal and business life.

Lil Chris · 11-07-2009, 06:24 PM

How long did it take you to get the invite?

Gene · 11-07-2009, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lil Chris

How long did it take you to get the invite?

I received the invite two or three days ago.

Brutha · 11-08-2009, 12:00 AM

I also got my invite

Request it the day after the keynote I think.

Gene · 11-08-2009, 01:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brutha

I also got my invite

Request it the day after the keynote I think.

What is your impression of Google Wave after having a little time to work with it.?

Brutha · 11-08-2009, 11:12 AM

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What is your impression of Google Wave after having a little time to work with it.?

Communication needs to have at least two people

My address is @googlewave.com and it seems that I can't use some of the things that are for sandbox addresses.

WorkitSmart · 11-08-2009, 02:18 PM

No..

I can barely keep up with working on my website.. and participating in a couple of forums AND living my life.

When I signed up for this forum a week or two ago, (my first forum) I told my husband... I get how we are becoming a totally disconnected society. Cyperworld can be so much easier than the real world. No accountability and we can leave, if the going gets rough, at the flip of a switch.

So, no.. this new google thing is just one more way to draw people into a place other than their 'real' world.

wow.. I just read my post and it sounds a little cranky..

Brutha · 11-08-2009, 02:38 PM

After a bit of discovery, with typing with

ublic in the search bar you get access to a lot of public discussion and can start waving!

Daffy Duck · 11-08-2009, 03:27 PM

You make a good point, Workit. We need to be mindful of balancing our real-world and virtual-world interactions.

10-15-2009, 10:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
Angela Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 22,520	Google Wave Are you folks looking forward to Google Wave like I am? I'm really excited about what's possible in working with groups, including my mastermind group and possibly session groups, like negative emotion and limiting decision release groups. Anyone on the beta list? I've requested an invitation.

10-16-2009, 09:54 AM	#4 (permalink)
Trezker Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 962	I want wave too. I have a srong feeling it will revolutionize how people communicate information in the future. There's no other tool I know of that brings the necessary features together to make group work simple and quick. I think the closest thing we have is forums, but to have a forum you have to set it up while google wave will just be there always ready for your new projects. Forums are also missing a couple of critical features for projects which means you also have to set up a wiki and issue tracker etc... Last edited by Trezker; 10-16-2009 at 09:57 AM.

11-08-2009, 02:18 PM	#28 (permalink)
WorkitSmart Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Texas - I wasn't born here but got here as fast as I could. Posts: 47	No.. I'm not excited No.. I can barely keep up with working on my website.. and participating in a couple of forums AND living my life. When I signed up for this forum a week or two ago, (my first forum) I told my husband... I get how we are becoming a totally disconnected society. Cyperworld can be so much easier than the real world. No accountability and we can leave, if the going gets rough, at the flip of a switch. So, no.. this new google thing is just one more way to draw people into a place other than their 'real' world. wow.. I just read my post and it sounds a little cranky..

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Brutha Family Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 8,749	After a bit of discovery, with typing withublic in the search bar you get access to a lot of public discussion and can start waving!

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10-15-2009, 10:11 PM	#2 (permalink)
Brutha Family Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 8,749	Yes, I also want an invite.

10-15-2009, 10:17 PM	#3 (permalink)
HAGITLOVE Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 77	Thank you

10-16-2009, 01:07 PM	#5 (permalink)
Lil Chris Family Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Somewhere in time... Posts: 2,213	This looks like it will have HUGE potential to make more things "live". Which will be kind of cool... I've requested an invitation too... Thanks Angela!

10-16-2009, 02:34 PM	#6 (permalink)
James81 Banned Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 12,690	So, basically it's just an IM program? lol The only feature that I can see that is different from IM is the ability to rewind and play the conversation back.

10-16-2009, 05:12 PM	#8 (permalink)
ScotiaCoast Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 31	I received my invite a few days ago, but I have only one contact so far, so it's fairly useless for now. Can't wait until a wider release, it's going to be awesome!

10-17-2009, 09:03 AM	#10 (permalink)
Patricia Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Brazil/USA Posts: 257	I got my invite today and started testing it. Can't say much at this point, as there aren't that many people using it yet - although it seems like they've just rolled out a bunch of new invites, so it shouldn't take long before there's enough critical mass. It looks really promising and interesting, though.

10-17-2009, 09:41 PM	#11 (permalink)
ar81 Family Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,756	Call me old fashioned, but I still prefer forums.

10-18-2009, 08:52 PM	#12 (permalink)
Trezker Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 962	It keeps popping up on twitters trending topics. I don't know how many times I've seen in over the past few weeks and I can't imagine how many times it popped up when I'm not looking.

10-27-2009, 09:42 PM	#18 (permalink)
Patricia Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Brazil/USA Posts: 257	I think for the most part, people who haven't used Wave yet are misunderstanding the purpose - and that's ok, because until you try it for yourself, it's a little confusing to wrap your mind around the concept. I've been using it for about a week now and even at this early stage, there's nothing out there it can be accurately compared to. It's a new paradigm in terms of communication integration. It basically provides all the features you'd otherwise use separately (docs, maps, IM, email, images, videos, conference etc) in one single integrated environment, where users can interact one-on-one, in groups or even by themselves as a reference building tool. Ii guess that's the best way to put it at this point.

11-05-2009, 06:56 PM	#19 (permalink)
funnyav Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 54	i am still mildly irritated by the phenomenon i see: every time i come up with a great idea I hear google's just finished developing a usable beta...

11-06-2009, 03:52 PM	#20 (permalink)
Daffy Duck Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,001	I'm looking forward to trying this in the future. I don't think our current software taps the full potential of collaboration, so hopefully Google Wave can fill that gap.

11-07-2009, 03:03 PM	#22 (permalink)
Gene Family Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Oblong, Illinois Posts: 3,335	I've tried Google Wave briefly. I am still leaning the potential it offers. I will continue to use it and decide if it has a place in my personal and business life.

11-07-2009, 06:24 PM	#23 (permalink)
Lil Chris Family Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Somewhere in time... Posts: 2,213	How long did it take you to get the invite?

11-08-2009, 12:00 AM	#25 (permalink)
Brutha Family Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Berlin, Germany Posts: 8,749	I also got my invite Request it the day after the keynote I think.

11-08-2009, 03:27 PM	#30 (permalink)
Daffy Duck Banned Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 3,001	You make a good point, Workit. We need to be mindful of balancing our real-world and virtual-world interactions.

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