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CoolStuff 08-03-2007 05:38 AM

What Lies Beyond the Haze of Social Conditioning?
 
http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/200...-conditioning/

I'm definitely feeling exactly what Steve talks about in this article. I have noticed accepting it and not fighting it helps a lot, but sometimes I slip back into fighting it.

What are some links I can give people to try to explain the whole situation to them?

BlueCrane 08-03-2007 10:34 AM

Why do I find Steve's article on this (24 Mar 2006) only today? Because that's exactly how I feel today, and have felt for a few months now.

Because it took me a whole week to focus on and write an article about social conditioning for my enewsletter and posted it yesterday - but the way Steve gets to the bottom of this is absolutely brilliant!

Having lived so far away from my roots for so long : that's what I thought made me feel so disconnected - now I realize and remember that my material environment is only a mirror-image of my awareness.

I should have known much earlier - but it's never too late, I suppose.

Old Soul 08-03-2007 10:41 AM

I wish I had of read this article a few years ago when I became aware, I did not have the knowledge or understanding of what was happening, I only had the experience, and it is true, your entire focus shifts, at least mind did. The things that use to take up my thoughts became quite trivial almost laughable..

what this article doesn't speak about is how this change in perspective does effect your relationship with and to others.... and you do feel alone , for me it was a crisis point....HOWEVER!! I am so excited to know that beyond the social conditioning, you get to "dream" again, you can dream big, I LOVE IT

I'd be interested in reading more about this as well....

~Beyond all our right doings and wrong doings
there is a field I will meet you there~

Rumi

Sam988 08-03-2007 04:03 PM

I dont know if i am on this level of awareness or not, i guess i am, because in my life i dont care for those minor things that most people would care about, i only care about things that will affect the outcome of my long term goals(big big dreams), which i plan to achieve in at most 11 years from now.


So functioning at my level, a level where virtually nothing that doesnt affect my long term goals matter, is working at a higher level of awareness? I dont know, all i know is that in the state i'm now i'm ALWAYS happy because i'm daily doing the things that will eventually cause me to achieve my final goals.


So i dont know if i have achieved this level of awareness a long time ago and then i set those BIG goals (most people would never dream of setting such goals), or if i didn't get in this level of awareness yet, because i don't remember having this feeling of "worthlessness" and being disappointed at life, as steve described in the article when the person is transitioning to this new level of awareness.

Old Soul 08-03-2007 06:58 PM

With me the new awareness of a bigger picture, caused me to see just how insignificant the things were that i use to stress over ,

so it wasn't so much that I felt worthless, unless i look at the word this way

"Worth/ less" because everything else is bigger and there is more illuminated than before........

Chinese Dragon 08-04-2007 01:03 AM

That article is one of my favorites. It doesn't make sense to me when people lower their happiness because of bad luck that happens to millions to people every day... There's no point in dwelling on the inevitable.

I'm in a position like Sam988, always happy because I'm doing things that will achive my goals. When you become commited to your goals, it is success that is inevitable.

And if you can enjoy the journey of achieving the goal as well as the result, life is bliss.

:)

Most people think they can't control their feelings and emotions. Ha. I've been able to control my emotions since I was very young. If you want to feel happy then think of something that makes you happy. I make sure as much as my thoughts as possible are positive, so my default state of being is joy. Happiness comes before external results, but both are great to have in life.

healthymind 08-04-2007 02:46 PM

Just completed this
 
My dark night of the soul began at the end of 2003 and things have only just now come into proper perspective for me and the nightmare has at last ended. Took a while....:rolleyes:

So what's happened?

I walked away from a major corporate career and a big fat paycheck
I walked away from an engagement
I walked away from my home of 10 years
I tried my hand at self-employment
I tried my hand at part-time employment
I tried my hand at living in 3 different states
I tried my hand at living on a wish and a prayer
I tried my hand at being satisfied with the cards life dealt me

None of them worked.

And I've FINALLY given myself permission to no-excuses, no more bs just go for what I actually want and know what's within me. And yes I'm happy to say this is a one way street, there just isn't anyway at all I could ever go back to living in the dark as I was before.

It's all very amusing and shocking to my family who are still living as society has taught them to do so. They do not understand why I am so happy without a career, a home, a mortgage, a certain level of savings. I do not intend to live this way forever but I do intend to make conscious creating my new career and am pre-paving my future with my manifesting right now.

I've never felt so free. :D

Chinese Dragon 08-04-2007 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by healthymind (Post 97047)
It's all very amusing and shocking to my family who are still living as society has taught them to do so. They do not understand why I am so happy without a career, a home, a mortgage, a certain level of savings.

I love doing that to people. :D It's fun to see them struggle to see why I'm so happy without any external justification.

CoolStuff 08-05-2007 06:53 AM

I can see some people in that light, but most people I want to help out. A lotta my friends have a lotta creative talent but barely exercising it. Our creative mind is our greatest weapon. And I hate to see my close family struggle.

The only thing I feel like I'm trapped to is I wanna have at least one kid, to pass on my legacy! Gotta find the right woman though, that's hard. I have a long time to worry about that though.


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