Lightworker Syndrome help...

[XeutonMojukai]

Alright... I know I identify with having LS, but I also know that I am unsure of exactly how to deal with it.

I couldn't make sense out of Steve's solution (probably because I'm not Steve ), so I figure I might as well ask for more peoples' solutions.

I've always had the same fear of being a self-starter. That's my main issue, so if anyone has their own story of how they were able to confront that fear, please share it.

Thanks, guys.

~ David

[Tobias Zimpel]

David, there is no such thing as as universal medicine that cures every disease, and there's lso no general solution to LS - at least you have to find out how it relates to you and your personal situation in order for it to help you.

Perhaps you can give us some more details of your situation and your actual problem in terms of fears or whatever pops to your mind. What would be the worst thingthat could happen if you succeed? What is it exactly what you fear?

When we know the exact symptoms, it's much easier to help you along the way.

[XeutonMojukai]

Thanks for the reply, first of all.

Basically, I'm afraid that I'm going to do something wrong with my abilities.

I am nervous about decisively working hard at something that's not easy to see the results to (like my entire life path).

I start to want to just be mediocre at my level, and feel safe.

I don't want to do that at a deeper level, but I'm neurotic enough that it's hard to deal with it.

I've tried to figure out my purpose, and my context, but I feel so lost that it's really difficult to even have a path to start with.

I guess the main problem is that I feel as if I need to do all of this on my own, because I don't know how to enlist the help of others on my own journey...

If any of this seems coherent enough to have a solution, I'll appreciate any ideas you have on those solutions.

~ David

[Tobias Zimpel]

Dave, I just tried to write some useful tipps and hints, but when I read over them again, there was not very much substance to it. The less I know about your situation, the harder it is to find something you can relate to.

Maybe another reason is that I'm still too deep into LS myself. I don't know.

[XeutonMojukai]

In that case, I'll tell you something:

You have taken a step towards transcending it by helping me, just as I'm taking a step now by telling you this.

I think the big thing to remember is that human development is a team effort, regardless of whether it's a single human's development being measured, or that of an the whole human race.

~ David

[Tobias Zimpel]

Originally Posted by XeutonMojukai

In that case, I'll tell you something:

You have taken a step towards transcending it by helping me, just as I'm taking a step now by telling you this.

But did I? And in what way?

I think the big thing to remember is that human development is a team effort, regardless of whether it's a single human's development being measured, or that of an the whole human race.

Sure it is. But what you are writing seems hollow to me, without any meaning I can relate to.

As when someone says "The purpose of life is to live it to he fullest of your abilities". No doubt that this is true for everybody, but it has no more meaning to me that saying "a circle is round".

Sorry, no pun intended, I just had to let that go.

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by XeutonMojukai

Alright... I know I identify with having LS, but I also know that I am unsure of exactly how to deal with it.

Perspective.

Ultimately, there's no such thing as a lightworker.
Why?

Well maybe instead of telling you, I guess you should figure it out, so you get the message deeper.

[XeutonMojukai]

You definitely took a step in the right direction.

You were strong enough to help me help you.

We're now acting as part of each others' manifestations of solving this problem.

I can understand how what I wrote would seem hollow, but I assure you it was not a mere twist of logic.

A lightworker's job is to spread the light within them to others.

Your light, was able to shine indirectly, because you gave me a chance to see where I shine.

You did not necessarily intend to help me by doubting your advice's own potency, but with your self-doubt came a strong urge in myself to help you.

Thus, we are fulfilling each other, which is not at all hollow I should think.

This seems abstract, I suppose, and it is very up-in-the-air, but optimism leads to joy, right?



infinitethoughts:

I agree. The reality in my opinion is that there is yin-work and yang-work, if you will, and both are a part of every person, who might as well be called a willworker...

But this is just semantics, and philological ideals only go so far.

Sure is fun though!

Here's something for you guys to enjoy.

Private Message Conversation:

"I actually think the act of trying to succeed is more important than the act of trying not to fail.

If you'd tried not to fail in that the Lightworker Syndrome thread, you wouldn't have said anything.

Somewhere in you, the urge was stronger to try to succeed on my behalf.

You later doubted the value of your content.

But as Steve says, context is important, too.

You had good intentions, and you decided to try to manifest them.

I had similar intentions when you showed doubt, so I've tried to manifest them for you.

I have found the thread valuable as a lesson in trying despite feeling inadequate.

I greatly value your attempt, because you were earnest and honest, and even your self-doubt tells me that you wanted to make a difference.

How can such noble thoughts be in any way worthy of regret?

Be at peace on this matter. I'm very grateful.

~ David

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Dave, Thank you for that message.

Maybe I doubted the value, but as you explained to me of what value it was to you, I understand and feel grateful for the ability to help you, as well as for your will to help me.

Be asured that I don't regret having posted.

But I have one question: Why did you not post this answer in the forums? I'm sure what you wrote could have been of value to others, who maybe not even dare to write for fear that they could fail, or having nothing of value to share. Meybe your post could have made a difference not only for me, but to someone else who read it.

Thanks a lot! You really made a difference to me. You showed me that trying to help to the best of my abilities to help is what makes the difference."

Couldn't have said it better myself.

[Tobias Zimpel]

Originally Posted by XeutonMojukai

You definitely took a step in the right direction.

You were strong enough to help me help you.

Again, I'm feeling greatful for my ability to help you help me - and of course for your help.

A lightworker's job is to spread the light within them to others.

Your light, was able to shine indirectly, because you gave me a chance to see where I shine.

I never saw it that way. Thanks for that. too.

Thus, we are fulfilling each other, which is not at all hollow I should think.

This seems abstract, I suppose, and it is very up-in-the-air, but optimism leads to joy, right?

It neither seems abstract, nor up-in-the-air. And if it is up in the air, I'm right there with it, flying with the birds.

[Tobias Zimpel]

Originally Posted by infinitethoughts

Perspective.

Ultimately, there's no such thing as a lightworker.
Why?

Well maybe instead of telling you, I guess you should figure it out, so you get the message deeper.

Let me try to find an answer, as David already gave his.

Darkworking and Lightworking lead to the same: You provide value, and you receive value. It's merely a question of what existed first, the egg or the hen.

[infinitethoughts]

Originally Posted by Tobias Zimpel

You provide value, and you receive value.

If you didn't provide value, would everything be Ok?

[Tobias Zimpel]

Originally Posted by infinitethoughts

If you didn't provide value, would everything be Ok?

Good question. If I don't provide value, ultimately I won't get any, too. And if I steal value others have created than I'd have to pay it back in some way.

What do you mean by OK?

[btwendel]

Originally Posted by XeutonMojukai

I am nervous about decisively working hard at something that's not easy to see the results to (like my entire life path).

Do not expect to be able to see the results of your entire life path before you die. And by then you will see it in the rear view mirror.

Life is lived moment by moment, day by day. Take opportunities as they came, decide for a certain path but be ready to change for something better.