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Old 06-29-2007, 02:04 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Exclamation Steve in 2008!

You think I'm kidding?

Seriously, Steve, have you ever thought about running for office?

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OK, I was just wistfully dreaming about having a candidate to vote for that would make me really feel like voting...for the first time in my life. Can you blame me?

If Steve ever decides to run, he will get himself super-prepared and knowledgeable about the issues, of that we can be sure.

Thousands of people know Steve and have confidence in his integrity and commitment to making a difference in the world.

He is a professional communicator.

He is a motivator.

He is an analyzer and solver of problems.

He is a generous sharer of solutions.

He is, in short, a leader.

How many people like that are there in this world?

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Old 06-29-2007, 05:08 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Ah - but he is missing that essential ingredient for becoming a politician - a need for power over others.
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Old 06-29-2007, 05:53 AM   #4 (permalink)
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well, im pretty sure politics could also be done with desire to help others in mind. Or is that impossible in this country?
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Old 06-29-2007, 09:02 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Heh, I remember reading one of his posts that says that when creating this website, he aimed to be courageous and write about all kind of stuff, even if as a result of it it means he could never run for office.

I selfishly would rather have Steve devoted to us in terms of helping us grow, then have him devoted to running a government agency.
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Old 06-29-2007, 12:58 PM   #6 (permalink)
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I think Steve has a bright future with the Libertarian Party.

Bless them all, they're my favorite of God's little creatures.
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People think it requires character to run a country, but that really just gets in the way. I think Bill Gates would be a much better candidate.
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Ah - but he is missing that essential ingredient for becoming a politician - a need for power over others.

Politician? Who said anything about becoming a politician?


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Heh, I remember reading one of his posts that says that when creating this website, he aimed to be courageous and write about all kind of stuff, even if as a result of it it means he could never run for office.

I selfishly would rather have Steve devoted to us in terms of helping us grow, then have him devoted to running a government agency.

"Run for office?!" A ray of hope: he's thinking about it!

Running a government agency does sound like a waste of his talent, doesn't it, but do you really think he would just "run a government agency?"


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People think it requires character to run a country, but that really just gets in the way. I think Bill Gates would be a much better candidate.

Run a country? Actually, I was thinking more along the lines of leading a nation.


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well, im pretty sure politics could also be done with desire to help others in mind. Or is that impossible in this country?

I've gotten burned by my idealism time after time, but it just keeps rising up again.

I suspect Steve is just as talented at Community Building as he is at Personal Development, if he were to turn his considerable energies and commitment to congruence in that direction.

Libertarian? Hmmm...not sure about that....

Can't blame a girl for dreaming....

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Old 06-29-2007, 08:14 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Ha! Interesting thought!
I would vote for Steve, too!
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Can you imagine how the voting public would react to subjective reality? Yikes! Just look at what a hornet's nest it stirred up here! That would be fun to have everybody in the country talking about it, though.
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"Run for office?!" A ray of hope: he's thinking about it!
Heh - sure maybe like someone avoiding stepping into a puddle of water thinks about the puddle of water
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Old 06-29-2007, 08:22 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Can you imagine how the voting public would react to subjective reality? Yikes! Just look at what a hornet's nest it stirred up here! That would be fun to have everybody in the country talking about it, though.
Heh yeah, I can imagine lines like "Don't vote for the one who doesn't believe you exist! Vote for his opponent - not only does he believe you exist, but he feels your pain and garantees to make you rich without any effort on your part!"
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Old 06-29-2007, 08:24 PM   #13 (permalink)
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Alright! 2 votes for Steve already--the ball is rolling!

Aw, seeker, don't be a downer! If he said the words "run for office," then he was thinking about it.

See...glass half full!

Angela, yeah, I don't think subjective reality would be a really good plank in the platform, come to think of it, but if anyone can ground the idea, it's Steve!

Seeker, you crack me up....

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Old 06-29-2007, 08:32 PM   #14 (permalink)
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OK, now we gotta think up some bumper stickers....
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Old 06-29-2007, 08:34 PM   #15 (permalink)
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...what rhymes with Pavlina....
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Old 06-29-2007, 08:35 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Achieve with Steve!

Naw....
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I recall Steve saying that running for office isn't something he'd do. He's said he doesn't vote in the past - plus, he doesn't watch the news. And this is all on the internet. All the media/other candidates would have to do is point to these statements in his articles as evidence that he's in complete dissonance with today's culture, and he'd get crushed.

Sad thing - they'd be telling the truth, lol. We know he's out of step with the culture. But if the average person heard he doesn't care for current events, they'd be a little worried.
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Naw....
LOL, I like it.

How about, "Self governing for smart countries."

//Gotta go libertarian.
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When Steve... er I mean IF Steve runs for president someday it probably won't be for any known party. He would be partyless, thus containerizing everyone else who is running in a party.

He would lead the country, not govern it. He would challenge people to improve. He wouldn't take hock from anyone. And he most certainly wouldn't pander to anyone who gave him money. I think he'd be great for this country actually. But I'm biased.

2008 is too soon. He's gotta build an offline presence first. Let's not put the cart before the horse.
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Thumbs up Woo-hoo!!!

I knew 2008 was too soon, Erin, but well, I needed a catchy title!

Self Governing for Smart Countries here we come!!!

OK, Steve, get busy on that offline presence bidness, we're pullin' for ya!
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Mr. Pavlina is going to have to wait his turn. Ron Jeremy still hasn't been elected.
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You got my support, steve! even though im not from usa
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Aw, seeker, don't be a downer! If he said the words "run for office," then he was thinking about it.
Heh, I'm still mad at Arnold Schwarzenegger for becoming Governor. That means I can't see any new movies with him in it, and he is the governor of a state I don't live in, so him being a governator does me no good. I did forgive him slightly when I saw how bad Terminator 3 was, but I'd still go see any new movie with him in it.

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He would lead the country, not govern it.
I don't want to be led. I want politicans to leave me alone and stop interfering in what I can do in my life.
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The only true leadership is example, I think. If Steve is congruent with his values and vision, then he creates an 'updraft' for the whole social system, I think.

Remember our parents, teachers and preachers who basically said, "Do as I say, not as I do?" How did that work for you?

If Steve models the values and vision he teaches, then he serves as an inspiration for others.

In our country, we are terribly polarized. If Steve can model transcending polarities, then the fact that polarities can be transcended is then grounded in a reality that we can see. It's like running the four-minute mile.

No one perfectly exemplifies transcending polarities--Steve recently referred to someone as a moron. Maybe he would defend that, maybe he wouldn't, on reflection.

With leadership as with parents, we don't need perfect parents or leaders, we need good enough parents and leaders. Parents and leaders who can respond to feedback and learn.

Good enough leaders would be, well, good enough. Good enough to give us a fresh vision and catalyze change at the individual, family, community and national levels.

What we lack is leadership, IMO.

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The only true leadership is example, I think. If Steve is congruent with his values and vision, then he creates an 'updraft' for the whole social system, I think.
There's no need to be a politician in order to become a leader over society. Plenty of leaders in America, and in the world have created this updraft you speak of without ever having been voted into an office. For example, in America - there was Benjamin Franklin. In India - Gandhi. Gandhi never held a single political office in India, but he was so respected that he held sway and influence over the elected leaders, and of the general population of the country.

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Other countries are much more polarized then we are - in comparison, there's very little polarization in America. It just looks very polarized in closeup.
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Seeker, I agree that one does not have to be an elected official to be a leader. Good point!

About the polarization, how 'bout the distribution of wealth, for starters?

That has huge implications for democracy, and suggests to me that we need people in office who are congruent with values that are not bottom-line oriented if we think a democratic way of life is something worth passing on.

If Steve's that kind of person, then he's the kind of person we need, seems to me.

It doesn't help to have excellent ladder-climbing skills to get ahead in the culture if your culture is crashing down around you.

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In order to lead a nation, one would have to transcend polarities, it seems to me.

While one might use fear and intimidation to get a refund from a company, does anyone imagine that that would work at a national level?

How's it working in the "War on Terror?"

The Lightworker/Darkworker split would need to be transcended at the level of national leadership, seems to me.

The Darkworker dynamic does not produce sustainable environments, and is therefore a dead-end path.

Tell me what I'm missing.

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He could bring back the third party!

I'm afraid of what competitors would dig up on these forums though....

He's got my vote.

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3 sprigs--I think we have the beginnings of a grassroots movement here!

Reading through the archives of Steve's blogs, I see that he talked a bit about sustainablility here:

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A promising development I’ve been seeing is that the dominant social paradigm in the USA is beginning to break down.

People are starting to question whether our rugged individualism is such a good thing after all. What once served us so well is finally crumbling for the simple reason that it’s unsustainable.

It’s a paradigm that will eventually leave us drowning in our own wastes. In this sense humans are no different than bacteria in a petri dish. Each individual working only for its self-interest ultimately contributes to the destruction of the whole collective.

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That, of course, was why I suggested that the Darkworker dynamic was a dead-end path.

One thinks about the person at Ford Motor Co. who wrote the memo on the $11.00 fix for Ford Pintos that would have saved hundreds from burning to death, but said it wasn't cost efficient.

Ford Pinto disaster

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If you find an executive that wants to take on social responsiblities, fire him. Fast.
A candidate that hews to human values above corporate values would certainly have my support!

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