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06-16-2007, 09:14 PM
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06-16-2007, 10:57 PM
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If it works for you and if you have been able to make a bundle out of it... show us some evidences of your successes and I'll worship every word you write... Fair enough...??? . | |
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06-16-2007, 11:35 PM
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Doubt, Fear, Denial, Time, Growth, Joy etc. In your world, you do the same thing, but you label the mechanisms LoA and IM. The difference is that you think there is a law or that intention are the creative forces, but I consider that to be incorrect. The outcome or output is the same, but the process is different. I want to speed up the process and understand fully why the LoA and IM have limitations, you want to believe in a process that seems to explain everything. As long as there is a physical reality, some physical action is required, I've never said otherwise. To win the lottery, you still have to obtain a ticket. | |
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06-17-2007, 04:45 AM
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I agree with you... in a dream world... everything is possible... but some of us want to live in the "real" world... where things are real and there are no bars in the windows... . | |
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06-17-2007, 05:17 AM
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Next thing you'll be saying is that thoughts create and there's a god in heaven  Blah!
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06-17-2007, 05:22 AM
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06-17-2007, 05:33 AM
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In my world, I'm god, in your world, Robbins is Heheh | |
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06-17-2007, 03:03 PM
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Merriam-Webster's definition of "La-la land: a euphoric dreamlike mental state detached from the harsher realities of life. . | |
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06-17-2007, 07:32 PM
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You think I want you to Worship every word I write? No. I look for engaging and stimulating discussions, hence what I worded below; "But then again, did you even attempt to grasp what I was saying, Shamou, or did you just skim over and respond " Instead of saying that your damn Bulldog makes more sense, Shamou, how bout discussing these ideas, which is backed up by Quantum Physics, that Max and I put forth ? ? | |
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06-17-2007, 08:06 PM
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06-17-2007, 10:31 PM
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By practical application you refer to your LoA and IM theorys correct?Practical-Definition: concerned with actual use or practice; "the idea had no practical application" I believe bypassing LoA and IM theory and aligning with consciousness and simple choice without the requirement for emotion and most thought is of very practical assistance. I find it helps me manifest better and faster. You believe in the overcomplex processes of LoA and IM and that is fine, I accept that, it's your life (container actually ) so you can put whatever you like in there.However the point that is interesting is your tolerance. You won't hear of any other system of attainment other than LoA and IM to the point where you try to discredit them. Just because a belief system or ideas and ideals haven't been around for 2000 years, doesn't mean they have no validity. Even I had to try out LoA and IM to see they had serious short comings and fail frequently. Your religion seems to be The Church of Robbins, did you ever consider anything else? If that is working for you then fine, but it's hardly constructive to try and undermine free thought, you don't want us living in Nazi Germany again do you? | |
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06-17-2007, 11:18 PM
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This a responsible site... people come here to get information and advice that work... not some notions that have never been known to work for anyone... Success is a science... but it's not quantum physic... it is the practical application of rules... it is a specific mindset... and it is also work and efforts... end of story... . | |
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06-17-2007, 11:44 PM
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I'm just a nobody who's making this whole thing into a much bigger deal that it needs to be Last edited by ExploringTheMatrix; 06-18-2007 at 05:41 AM. Reason: not sure what I was thinking there, but I left out the bad place to be part | |
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06-18-2007, 12:22 AM
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The sad thing is that at one point people get tired of the fantasy world... and it's back to the fat wife, the tough job and the 98 Chevy with snow tires in the summer... Luckily we also have another alternative... we can take some solid PD info... do some hard work and enjoy the good life... The choice is ours... . | |
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06-18-2007, 05:42 AM
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But I figure it's easier to lucid dream. Different life every night. That way I don't have to worry about consequences and continuity and all that jazz. Balancing 500 girls is too hard when you got an illusion to maintain  | |
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06-18-2007, 03:16 PM
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Don't forget, this website is purely about creating your life thru Intention. Creating your life through Consciousness. Here's the deal. You'll never make any progress if you don't let go of that belief system. Why? Cause you'll stay in an infinite loop by continually trying to approach this with a "realist" point of view. Quote:
Life? God? Chance? YOU are Shamou, you are. | ||
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06-18-2007, 03:51 PM
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And, for the zillion time… I have asked you where your techniques have succeeded… or to name someone who has found success out of thin air… and received nothing from you… Also, for your information… whatever I preach in this forum has been used very successfully in my own case and for many people that I have had the pleasure of working with… Quote:
I don’t deal in theories but on facts… and it works… . | ||
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06-18-2007, 04:00 PM
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The only pragmatic way I see in using the whole "we are one" and all that is that it reduces the fear of what other people think of you and knocks situations down in size. Obviously you wouldn't feel scared if you knew you were living in a dream, so if you apply this to real life you'll probably accomplish alot more because if done right you won't really have that nagging fear holding you down, and in case you don't know I'm not talking about the fear that keeps us from any real dangers, I'm talking about fears that don't pose any direct harm to ourselves (physical selves) For me though, I am aware that postivite thinking and believing are vital steps to succeeding which is basically with all of these theories are saying in my opinions. The next step for me and alot of us is finding the wisdom to carry out our intetensions and beliefs. Steve does a good job explaining how to condition your mind to use the LoA, along with the polarity articles in order to psyche yourself up to set out and accomplish your goals. |
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06-18-2007, 06:47 PM
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The funnest one was back when I was living in Hollywood and got a gig doing a commercial paying 10 grand for 3 days work. (Dockers Commercial for the European Market.) Was it "hard work" to pull in these circumstances ? No. I simply decided to have a check for 10 grand and it came to me. I pulled that particular experience out of "thin air". Your insistence and your belief that it takes hard work to succeed is incorrect. | |
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06-18-2007, 07:13 PM
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My wife is a Realtor and using what I taught her sells at least one or two houses every month at anywhere from 6 to 12 Ks a pop... and the poor soul has to work up to 20 hrs a week... that's gotta be rough... . | |
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06-18-2007, 07:18 PM
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The only other pre-requisite is to "believe that you can..." The very best of luck to you... I strongly feel that you are on your way and that we'll see you at the top...  . | |
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06-25-2007, 03:03 PM
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We all have different beliefs, and regardless of what it takes to get us where we are going if we all arrive where we want to be at the end, who cares who was right or wrong. I do happen to believe that I receive what I intend to receive and have unending examples of this in my life. Here's a couple examples of big ones: When I went to college I was determined to go to Ireland and get into a program that only accepted 12 people a year with thousands applying. I was not interested in going anywhere else because I knew I would be one of the 12 as it was the only path I intended to take. Well, it terrified my mother that I didn't have back-ups. I didn't work any harder to get in than any of the other thousands...but I knew I would get in because I intended to go there. And of course I did. That was an intention I held from the age of 13, so it was obviously very strong. The more recent example was joining the million dollar experiment. Actually, a week or so before I decided I was going to make 3million euro in the next 5 years (my salary is a mere E25k a year). Then I joined the experiment and the next day got an extra surprise 200 in my pay check that the government owed me. It's like in Monopoly when you suddenly get a bank error in your favour (which funny enough has happened to me in real life too, just when I was running short of money) Yes, I would have got it anyway, but it felt like a nod from the Universe that my intention has been received. Finally, about a month after joining the experiment I was introduced to an opportunity with a friend's company that has the potential to earn me my million in passive income much more quickly than I ever believed possible. All I would say, is putting intentions out seems to bring OPPORTUNITIES more often than something out of thin air. It sometimes feels like it's out of thin air because they do come as a surprise usually. All I'm saying is...if you feel you are intending and nothing is happening, look out for the opportunities that are opening to you and ACT ON THEM. |
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06-26-2007, 01:00 PM
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I detect two camps here for Manifesting/Intending a $1,000,000.00 Camp 1 - Sit on your butt and wait for the money to fall on your lap after you have intended it to come. Maybe the money will come via a Lottery winning (mind you this involves some work of buying a ticket), Inheritance (this may involve work on opening a bank account, hiring a lawyer, etc), you get into a horrible accident (the roof, chandelier, light fixture falls on top of where you where sitting on your butt and then you sue the apartment, the people that constructed your house) and they award a million dollars (Heaven forbid). Camp 2 - You do your intending and then money-making Ideas and Circumstances will present themselves to you but you will have to follow-thru and some work is involved to make the money manifest to you. Just my two cents. Oh and I am also new here, but I am not new to these Self-Help, New Age, Personal Development, Occult C.R.A.P. (Contemptible Realization of our Atrocious Ponderings) |
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06-26-2007, 04:52 PM
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Camp 2 works because your physical behavioral changes are an integral part of the manifestation. Figure out how you'd live if you already were a millionaire, and start doing more of that now. That doesn't mean spending money you don't have, but it does mean correcting the details that would be incongruent with having a million dollars. Just look around and notice what doesn't fit with being a millionaire; then gradually replace it with what does fit. It's amazing how many details can be corrected for little or no cost. | |
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06-26-2007, 05:31 PM
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Wow. Being new here, I'm almost afraid to respond to this one! I fall into Camp #2. I don't necessarily believe those in camp 1 are wrong, just that the "camp 2" approach has worked better for me and those i have known, and it seems to work faster than the "camp 1" approach. Earlier in the thread, somebody asked about how you gain confidence that this thing works. While talking to people who are successful is certainly helpful, and reading books by those successful people is equally helpful, I have found that my brain requires more than that. I'm a skeptic. I have to see things to believe them - test out the theory before I say I believe it. I also find that focusing on the little things helps us gain confidence in a given theory - so I like to test it. Some time ago I started an experiment, just so that I could answer my mother when she asked me about this attraction mumbo jumbo. I started with little stuff - namely parking spaces. Once I was at the point where I always got a good parking spot, I moved onto our elevators at the office - which are notoriously slow. I always have an elevator within 30 seconds of pressing the button - no matter where I go. Having mastered these 2 little things, I had a little more confidence - so I started focusing on my commute - which at the time was 45 minutes to an hour for my 17 miles. I experimented with different routes and times of day - which I had done many times before with no success - and currently make it to work in 30 minutes, no matter what time I leave. I've also made some much bigger changes - but the point is, I had to convince myself that it could work -and the easiest way for me was to prove it. Since then, I've made some pretty amazing leaps - believing was the first key, and of course taking action was the second. I still press the button for the elevator - haven't figured out yet how to get it to come with just my thoughts. Hopefully this provides more of a skeptic's approach for you. |
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