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Use this thread to discuss the following entry from Steve Pavlina's blog: The Golden Motorcycle Gang |
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I found this so inspiring! My passion and interest is to serve on a physical level, to encourage wellness and love of our physical bodies. I WISH I knew how to actualize this, the 'how' part hasn't come to me yet. I'm just about to finish massage school but that's just the beginning, I want to empower people to take an active role in their health.
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Very thought-provoking. I would certainly be interested in networking with other lightworkers in my generation. Too often, people feel that their spiritual family is far from them... I know I've felt like that in the past. Reading the last part of this article made me think of an organization that would be like Toastmasters, but for lightworkers. Bringing like-minded people together to make a positive impact. Like a "TLP Alliance" This kind of thing happens during CGWs too, doesn't it? FWIW, I still think "Steve's House Camp" would be potentially hilarious and undoubtedly a very impactful experience, but I know that's probably not QUITE what you want to invite into your reality right now. I also feel that this group you're referring to could use some kind of name. Like "Gen-STO"... Well, perhaps a better name will come to me. Oh! What about GMG: The Next Generation. (sorry, I couldn't resist) Last edited by Andreas; 11-11-2011 at 09:42 PM. |
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I've always felt that pre-existing systems were too rigid, too structured and steeped in tradition. ToastMasters, for example, spends a great deal of time on pomp and circumstance, when they could be doing things far more constructive with that time. While I can't speak for your generation, Steve, I can speak for my own. I'm 23, and the people I've met in the last few years that want to help others and are service oriented are just as you described: struggling to find a place in the corporate world while still trying to find a way to help, or believing that being in the corporate world is the best way to do that. Right now, even if they realize that going the standard corporate route MAY not be the best for them, they don't see a way out. They often see starting their own business and think they could do more from inside the system. The only problem is, people in my generation are so young and have had so little time (comparatively) to start down their path, it's hard to determine if they're high on the college attitude of "save the world" or really are committed to doing something. Still, most of them are VERY eager to meet someone of a like mind, even in widely disparate fields, such as a long conversation I (a visual artist) had with with a law student about our purpose and the way we can help people and world. People my age have a very small network of people that they can connect with on this level, so they are more than happy to form new connections with their brother and sisters in purpose. Most of my friends are in their 30s-40s. Haha. |
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Awesome! This is exactly what I've been looking for for at least a decade. I know I am here for a purpose, but since I'm barely able to cover even the most basic costs of living, I'm constantly drawn into money-first approaches, whether I get a job, freelance or start growing a business. I would absolutely love to connect with people who share a similar mission in making the world a better place. |
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Bringing like-minded people together in the real world in hopes to find new solutions is to my mind an absolutely wonderful idea. Myself, I am currently very much seeking new solutions in my life, having found that I am quite incapable of pretending any longer to be something that I know I'm not for the sake of earning an income in an environment that truly doesn't accept my being fully myself, or for the sake of having a relationship either. Been dumb enough to try to do one or the other or both for quite long enough. So, even though this is a site for Smart People, and I'm not altogether certain I can at lest as yet honestly claim to be all that smart, I did decide to register and offer my voice in support of this cause anyway. |
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Indeed, indeed. I have thought about working for a lightworking/consciousness raising business as well. I wouldn't have to work for some business that doesn't even need to exist, and I would have other people around me to network with and learn from.
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As I was reading the blog post by Steve I recalled the mission statement of a spiritual center I go to here in San Diego called UNITY. "Inspiring personal greatness and transforming our world with love" The part that always got me was the "transforming our world with love" part. I made an internal decision about 2 years ago that I was going to change this world (in as massive of a way as possible) for the better. When I look back at who I was and how I felt as a child and teenager, I realize now that I have always felt that way. Becoming an adult and going through the changes and inherent stresses that seem to commonly accompany that seemed to block that natural feeling that I have had since as far back as I can remember. I want to change this world, however that may be (as this is still unfolding for me) in a MASSIVE way. I know that even literally helping your neighbor will effect positive change in the world, and I realize that if everyone did this simultaneously, that it would actually work. But this is not going to happen anytime soon and I have a tugging feeling to change things on a bigger scale. I have been effectively independent for a long time and started a business in the middle of the recession, while losing my house, without a job or any start-up capitol. But I realize that in order for my desires to come to fruition, I need to become effectively interdependent (thanks 7 habits). I would love to do what was proposed in the blog by Steve. My question is: Who is going to take the reins and lead the way? I understand their may be many leadership positions that would form as time went on, but who is REALLY going to start this and give it the systems it needs for structure and consistency. It's easy to talk about an idea. It's a whole other thing to actually get it going and maintain it. |
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Definitely piqued my interest with that one Steve. I would really like to meet you someday. I should make plans to attend one of your workshops really. A few things to note. First, it's a wonderful idea, but ideas are a dime a dozen as we all know. I most definitely would like it to blossom into a powerful positive agent in the world. I appreciate everyone wanting to pitch in and do something, but without more concrete wording it will be difficult to move forward in any way. I'm seeing a lot of ''positive change'' and ''change through love'' and things like that. I understand this is just the beginning of a conversation, but avoiding the specifics for too long will just lead to collective mental masturbation. Second...I don't think I'm service oriented fundamentally speaking. I'm much more into the exploration of the human condition. It's why I'm in love with acting. I suppose at some point my focus will shift towards sharing my growth experiences with others (like now maybe? Since I was warning of the dangers of staying too vague I suppose it would be wise to delve into some specifics. Maybe this will inspire others to share more as well. Current interests: Acting, modelling and singing. With regards to singing I feel like I'm only beginning to tap into my potential and self-confidence is shaky on that talent right now. Acting and modelling I can definitely handle. Acting, to me right now, is just deeper than life itself. I truly adore it. Abilities: filmmaking, screenwriting, photography, camera work, editing, some sound design (studied it in 2004), drawing. Causes I'm most sensible to: Eliminating unnecessary suffering, animal rights, gay rights, women's rights, finding a long-term solution to this seemingly never-ending war upon the environment we are collectively waging, spreading the understanding and benefits of empathy and compassion and cultivating the rational mind. I've been holding on to this idea of making videos about that last cause for some time now. Current location: Montreal Canada. Next year I will be travelling to Chile, Los Angeles then Toronto. I'll keep an open mind. Let's see where this leads us! |
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I'm a uni student and involved in an organisation called AIESEC - about creating positive change agents. Graduating next June, and want to work out next steps (have decided to postpone job hunting for a year or two ... or maybe a lifetime ... well it'll be a lifetime if I can help it and stay away from the corporate world). My thoughts at the minute is something similar to the way groups like Avaaz or 38 Degrees(UK people power) have idea discussion boards, select the most popular or most liked, and send out a poll to all its members to figure out which ones to focus on. But instead of just signing your name on a petition against a government bill etc. or writing a letter, you become part of seperate action. Action that in some way looks to change something in that particular field, be that a commercial enterprise (cite: Toms shoes - every pair made, another pair is made for a child in poverty), or things like the world community grid, using spare computer power from individuals to contribute on a global scale to charitable projects. Would love to start off my lifetime (although the parents don't know how long I'm planning yet) gap year doing something like this... Or helping start it off, organizing a conference somewhere random but accessible and just keeping it free flowing with different points around a venue to discuss random issues, and see what comes of it... Any thoughts/ anyone wants to organise a conference like it with me, give me a shout... its been in my head for about 6 months ... a 'change the world' conference but I'd shelved it until I read this article!!!!!! I figure nows the time to get the party started... |
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Hey Asmoday, Correct me if I am wrong, but aren't you promoting "darkworkers"? I did not know about this term until recently, but in Steve's blog articles he doesn't seem to be shedding a lot a "good" light on them. Are Darkworkers Evil? I am confused as to why you would want to become part of a social network that is filled the the opposite of what you are... |
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In any case, this is a great question that I figured would come up, because it sheds light on something important, but first let me tackle a technical point... Nowhere did Steve indicate that Lightworkers only need apply. He did, indicate those with a "service-oriented" mindset are welcome, so I knocked on the door. The problems, and more importantly how he framed the structure around those problems spoke to me, and I couldn't agree more with his assessment. Does this surprise you? I don't mean this negatively, but if so, it speaks more to a lack of understanding which many people have about Darkworking, than anything else. But, I'll take on that understanding and frame it that way for a moment, if you'd like... I am, like you, dependent on the systems around me. How does it serve me to have polluted air, food, and water? How does it serve me to have twisted financial systems that issue debt based money, and create exacerbated boom and bust cycles, which lead to hard earned opportunity rather than abundant opportunity? How does it serve me to have no real control over the political system, unless I help instigate unrest with considerable risk, or climb to the top of the money heap? Most importantly, how does it serve me to be dependent on unsustainable systems? In short, who would rather live in a swamp over a paradise? Its common sense, what hurts all of us, includes me. The opposite of these states for my environment, clearly serves me much better. And now, dropping this false paradigm, its more than that. Darkworkers must Honor the Self. Just as I appreciate my "dark" nature, I am bound to honor compassion when it arises -- to do otherwise is to restrict me from full expression. Not gonna happen. I admit, there are a small group of us who are definitely propping up some of these unsustainable systems. But, you are responsible for your own actions, and your actions alone, are you not? And even then, these rotten apples are, I would argue, in a state of Dark Fusion. Technically, as a teacher who claims Darkworking, I have more of an "obligation" to do something in regards to them than anyone else. My other option would be to serve them and hope for a spot at the table, and I had that opportunity, but they disgust me. Over my dead body. I believe in human potential, and find my "bliss" when I help it to fruition. They would choke it out. Thus, on this specific question, I have more in common with a Lightworker than I do with them. And, I understand that among Darkworkers, this "bliss" makes me a rare thing. It is what it is. Its true, we are different. I will go farther on methods, use energies a lightworker would not use, and so on. This does not inherently mean we can't share a common goal. If I am turned away from this group because of my chosen road, it says far more about Lightworkers than it would about me. And, that would be a sad thing, because all great human achievements have come when we have worked together. My contributions to this group, exhibited by what I have already done to wake people up to these problems (if you have been paying attention), would be massive. And, after all, I know how the "problem children" think, Lightworkers don't. I'm cold on the street here, and I'm tired because I got hit in the gut with a baton. I'm so tired. More than anything, I don't think I have two battles in me at this point. Its one thing to resist those who would oppress us, but I just don't have it within to struggle with potential friends. So, this isn't my best or most eloquent argument. Instead, I'll let this video I put together a while back speak for me, and hope for the best: Night Of A Thousand Masks -11.11.11 - Anonymous - YouTube | |
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Wow! This post really hit the mark. I've been reading and implementing a lot of the stuff that Steve's been talking about since I was 14-15 years old. Today, I'm 22 and I too find myself in this corporate world shocked at what I've become. I'm trying the entrepreneurial part in most of my spare time, but that's something I do need help with so that I can automate it and focus on the stuff that truly matters! I am surrounded by people that are not fully conscious, and I crave to be out. Being with other like minded people, especially my age would make a tremendous difference to me. It gives me the chance to realise I'm not alone, and also have a chance to help one another out. I'm in Toronto. I'm not sure how any of this would work. |
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YO STEVE! I'm actually going to try a you tactic and hug these guys to death. I think it might actually be crazy enough to work... If you're in the field, hug a cop and get a pic: Anonymous: "Operation We Care" (Nov. 23, 2011) - YouTube |
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Meetup would be the best place to start. Group name: ‘Living Consciously’ There could be other name, but have the same name everywhere, not different names depending on how the organizer felt like. |
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Reading the book was like eating cotton candy, it tastes good but doesn't get you full. Steve's blog was actually informative and for me would be like eating a healthy meal and the book is the dessert. I read the book though as I am a big fan of Jack Canfield's and wanted to see what he is currently up to. When I first read the book I thought "This book is written by rich white people with too much time on their hands." I felt that with all of the problems going on in the world, to gather ten million people to throw a new "birth-day" for the planet sounded ridiculous. It would take thousands of people and cost A LOT of money. On the other hand, I feel like if we have that many people in unison, the amount of energy being pumped out could cause a planetary shift, and if anyone could do it Jack Canfield could. We waste money on wars and killing each other, maybe it is time we shift our perspective and put our energy where it could be used for something better. |
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I just started reading this book, and am delighted to read about Jack's childhood in my own childhood town of Wheeling, WV. I agree with him about Wheeling in that there is beauty in every direction and drinking is a major outlet among people. For me, growing up in Wheeling was definitely a positive thing in most respects, especially education. Canfield went to a prestigious former military high school, which even in my later time, was still considered one of the best high schools in the valley. I'm sure it still is. I know several people who went there, and they are all highly intelligent people. I think West Virginia is hurting - like a lot of people are these days. West Virginians' loyalties are in question as we struggle between our identity as a collective force against outside interests, and our identity as a backbone of American values. Are the two mutually exclusive? |
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