Subjective Reality

[Rosie]

Subjective reality echoes the concept of nonduality - a reality in which there is only one awareness. If there is only one awareness, where does that lead everyone else? Are they simply projections as Steve says?

[Shamou]

Originally Posted by Rosie
Subjective reality echoes the concept of nonduality - a reality in which there is only one awareness. If there is only one awareness, where does that lead everyone else? Are they simply projections as Steve says?

We see the world such as we are and not such as it is… so, awareness is very much a personal phenomena… and each has its own…

Einstein had said:

“Man tries to make for himself in the fashion that suits him best a simplified and intelligible picture of the world. He then tries to some extent to substitute this cosmos of his for the world of experience, and thus to overcome it… He makes this cosmos and its construction the pivot of his emotional life in order to find in this way the peace and serenity which he cannot find in the narrow whirlpool of personal experience.”

So, you have your own personal universe (reality)… I have mine… and so does everyone else…

Very interesting thread… thank you for starting it…

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[Dr Gonzo]

Originally Posted by Rosie

Subjective reality echoes the concept of nonduality - a reality in which there is only one awareness. If there is only one awareness, where does that lead everyone else? Are they simply projections as Steve says?

Projections of who? If there is only one awareness, the word who ceases to have meaning, so does I, you, they and any other way of implying separateness.

Gonzo

[DaveTyler]

It's called Subjective EXPERIENCE, Subjective IMAGINATION, IN OBJECTIVE REALITY.
If u start believing subjective reality, you'll eventually become psychotic, so why steve still has that article is beyond my logic...

[ZHereford]

Dave, I agree with you. The term "subjective reality" is an oxymoron.

Whatever reality exists, it is independent of your subjective experience, or what you perceive as real to you.

Everything we experience comes from our perceptions, which may or may not parallel whatever reality does or doesn't exist.

To speak of "subjective reality" makes no sense. Subjective experience makes perfect sense.

[Max Power]

SR is all about one single awareness and that's all there is and it's centered on you. Everyone else, everything, everywhere is a creation of you. People are real, as you are real physically, but they (your physicality also) are projections of you. You create the projection of your body, mind and world including everything else.

That's a big job, to build it all day, everyday, but maybe not that hard as you only build in your present moment awareness. New York doesn't exist unless you go there, so you don't have to even consider building it, unless you get there.

Same with everything else. You build everything, but only as you need it.The only thing that is constant, 24/7 is awareness, your awareness and that makes you God.

Yes, I agree that some people have a huge problem understanding SR to the point of anger and confusion. The premise of SR is that you are God and everything is made up by you for your own enjoyment.

While I can see that it's possible, because you can't prove it wrong, it's a huge leap of faith or maybe just a form of denial. The problem Steve and any guru (intentional or accidental) is that some people take every word they say as gospel.

From a SR POV, Steve is me, enlightening my awareness.

Power to the Max

[escapee]

There is 99.9999999999999% chance that the existence of New york is independent of your SR thought. If you die today, New york would continue to exist in my thought. This is because your existence is completely independent of my SR thought and vice versa . We all have our own unique SR in the real world.

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by escapee

There is 99.9999999999999% chance that the existence of New york is independent of your SR thought. If you die today, New york would continue to exist in my thought. This is because your existence is completely independent of my SR thought and vice versa . We all have our own unique SR in the real world.

If you believe in SR, the way Steve outlines it, then there is no chance NY exists unless it's in your presence moment awareness. If I die, everything ends. I suppose your version of SR is different.

Power to the Max

[escapee]

If I die, everything ends

How is that possible ? If everything ends then how the heck Erin does her psychic work with the "spirits" ( the people who have died ) to help her clients in the real world / or in New york ?

Why did you even respond to this post because (Based on SR) i'm merely an awareness created by the power of internet which is also an awareness created by another awareness (human) . Geeeess......

[Max Power]

Originally Posted by escapee

How is that possible ? If everything ends then how the heck Erin does her psychic work with the "spirits" ( the people who have died ) to help her clients in the real world / or in New york ?

Why did you even respond to this post because (Based on SR) i'm merely an awareness created by the power of internet which is also an awareness created by another awareness (human) . Geeeess......

It ends, because it's all an illusion created by consciousness, your consciousness. Erin does not exist outside your present moment awareness. There is no New York, no spirits, no clients unless you bring them into your present moment awareness and you do that when you require them to exist.

I respond to your post, because I choose to, you're irratated because you want to understand, but can't yet, because too many things in your present moment awareness are coming from ego and not consciousness.

Power to the Max

[Rosie]

Max Power,

You have told numerous people that they are the only awareness. How can all these people be the ONLY consciousness.

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by Rosie

Subjective reality echoes the concept of nonduality - a reality in which there is only one awareness. If there is only one awareness, where does that lead everyone else? Are they simply projections as Steve says?

There's no way of actually proving such things, or even knowing. Some will say otherwise and all they are saying is they decided to belive something - no one can know if one is the only consciousness.

I think Steve applies a reasoning, like, "since I can't know directly if anyone else is aware like I know I am, then they do not actually exist, as I do." Is that a proof?

I'd say not. Saying others aren't conscious just because we don't have direct experience of their consciousness doesn't mean they are just projections of me.


The only part I can say is true is I have my own subjective reality. Not an oxymoron - reality is qualified by what I can be aware off. Reality itself may be something else, but I have my own subjective view of it.

[escapee]

I respond to your post, because I choose to, you're irratated because you want to understand, but can't yet, because too many things in your present moment awareness are coming from ego and not consciousness.

You are so wrong, it came from my unique and pure consciousness not my ego . I know it because it's the ultimate truth .

[SecretSeven]

How do you know its the ultimate truth.