Waking Up (Blog)

[Savage]

Use this thread to discuss the following entry from Steve Pavlina's blog:

Waking Up

[Divajules]

Oh yeah, this post speaks to my favorite subject.....

I really dig the idea of looking at my life from the perspective of Source. Once in a meditation, I asked for guidance about some petty problem I was having. I don't even remember what now. But, I remember the guidance clearly. What I got was this: "perspective is everything". I thought, WTF? That's all you got? Then, after I pondered these wise words for a bit, I understood. It might be a rather simple idea but it is profound.

The worrying about income and home etc. is just so ingrained! It takes a lot of effort to stay the course. Still, I keep going. Waking up definitely has it's challenges.

If I could only figure out the magic words that would work on everyone to wake some of these folks....sadly, those magic words do not exist as far I know. You get it when you get it. However, like you Savage (and many others here on this forum), I will keep trying to shake them as best I can.

And, as usual, thanks for the continual inspiration. I don't know what I would do without it!

[glow]

Steve, that was just incredible! You've given me alot to think about.
Can you please explain a bit what is the Universal conscience? Is it some God-like precense?
And does this imply that Darkworkers who don't serve the higher good will evenutally be wiped away?

[VinceG]

Heh, for years I wanted to create a business "muse" ala Tim Ferriss that would let me do all kinds of things I wanted to do for myself. But I could never motivate myself to do it. Eventually a way to make remote income fell into my lap. Between that and the odd contracting gig I'm making way more money now than I need. I have no need to print up business cards, learn marketing, any of that nonsense. Now I focus on my highest ability to help, to inspire, working those muscles. I have an idea of the kind of person I want to become, and I'm rapidly, rapidly getting there.

[Criseyde]

"Serve humanity." I wonder if I could list that as an objective on my resume.

[Savage]

Originally Posted by glow

Steve, that was just incredible! You've given me alot to think about.
Can you please explain a bit what is the Universal conscience? Is it some God-like precense?
And does this imply that Darkworkers who don't serve the higher good will evenutally be wiped away?

I don't think we can fully understand universal consciousness from the level of human existence. That would be like a cell in your body trying to understand the totality of you. It's ill-equipped for the challenge. The best it can do is to realize there's some much greater and more intelligent out there, far beyond its own cellular level of intelligence, and it can do its best to tune into this level of awareness even as it goes about its business of living as a cell.

The presence may seem god-like, and we could label it as God, but its so far beyond our ability to label it that we can really only grasp bits and pieces of it. None of us as individuals can really comprehend what's going on in terms of the evolution of humanity, but we can see that it's something huge... far beyond what any individual human life can amount to. Even the lives of the greatest among us are nothing against the backdrop of what humanity as a whole has achieved.

I could have written a lot about lightworkers and darkworkers in this article, and much of it was written from a lightworker-biased perspective. In fact, my original title for the article (before I finished it) was "How Lightworkers Can Enjoy More Grace, Ease, and Flow". But I backed off from that because the ideas actually apply to lightworkers and darkworkers alike.

A very conscious self-serving darkworker will eventually figure out that it's easier to get ahead by aligning oneself with this higher order intelligence. The path to get there is just different.

As a lightworker, you can eventually figure this out by helping other people, and then you gradually evolve to helping humanity itself. This is an important shift to go through. It's when lightworkers really stop struggling so much, and staying in the flow of support becomes much easier.

As a darkworker, you'll take a different route. Eventually you'll realize just human-level accomplishments just aren't very satisfying. You may achieve a lot for yourself, but in the end, it will bore you. When you're ready to play in a bigger game, you'll need to amp up your power massively, and the way to do that is to tap into universal consciousness. On this path, you're going to end up commanding and controlling a lot of resources. But whether you like it or not, you'll end up serving the evolution of humanity.

For instance, suppose that as a powerful darkworker, you become a major titan of industry. You may achieve and accomplish a great deal for yourself, but in order to play in a big enough game, you'll still end up helping humanity expand and evolve. For everything you create, even of a destructive nature, you're going to help fuel expansion on the opposite side as well. War inspires more people to demand peace. Pollution inspires clean energy. And so on...

Lightworkers and darkworkers can both be seen as pawns of universal consciousness, helping to expand it in different ways.

[cacheborn]

Intriguing post. I find sychronicities here. Just the other day, I wrote in 'what I am grateful for' post that I am grateful for 'my earth'. Weena asked me, toungue in cheek, if the earth belongs to me. I said, yes, but it belongs to you as well and six billion more people.

I have been practicing Ho'oponopono for quite a few months now. It has a similar goal. You need to clean all the time, not just the present but memories of your ancestors as well, and not with just living things but also for inanimate objects. The more you clean, the better it will be for everyone because everything I experience is my responsibility.

What I am trying to figure out is what should be the course of action when most of the people you meet are sleeping and do not want to wake up. I have tried spending time with such people, but all we seem to end up doing is talking about unimportant things like movies, politics and other people.

Interesting example about Google. IMO, the reason why Google is so successful is they put the clients first and they implement fresh ideas very fast.

Universal consciousness will guide you to whatever it is that you need to sustain your emotional health, as long as you don’t get too attached to how it shows up.

The Bhagvad Gita says the same thing.

[Savage]

Originally Posted by cacheborn

What I am trying to figure out is what should be the course of action when most of the people you meet are sleeping and do not want to wake up. I have tried spending time with such people, but all we seem to end up doing is talking about unimportant things like movies, politics and other people.

Start with the people who are interested in waking up, or who've woken up a few times before and need help staying awake. There are LOTS of them.

Also, you may be giving up too easily with the sleepers. You can redirect the conversation away from trivialities. Sometimes they'll get pissed off when you hit touchy subjects, but anger is a higher level of awareness than apathy, so that's actually a step in the right direction.

When dealing with people one on one, the best thing you can do is listen to see where their current level of thinking is. Then just aim to raise it up a notch or two if you can. Inject a little more truth, love, and power into their perspective, but not so much that it seems like a totally alien concept.

Ho'oponopono does cover some similar territory.

[cacheborn]

Originally Posted by Savage

Also, you may be giving up too easily with the sleepers. You can redirect the conversation away from trivialities. Sometimes they'll get pissed off when you hit touchy subjects, but anger is a higher level of awareness than apathy, so that's actually a step in the right direction.

It's possible, sometimes my patience wears thin.

It's a good idea to increase the awareness gradually and this is an interesting concept to try. Maybe I get too attached to the outcome of raising other person's awareness. Need to let go.

What I am also trying to find is my tribe. People who already have a certain level of awareness, who share similar goals and who can give constructive feedback.

Ho'oponopono does cover some similar territory.

I have experienced some remarkable things since I started practicing it.

[Speedbump]

I asked for some serious guidance today, and then I read this blog post and it's there, everything I truly needed to hear, right down to very specific details that apply to my situation. Thanks for that.

[SeaRod]

Wow Steve, this article deeply resonates with me at an intuitive level. I would recommend reading Viktor Frankl's "Man's Search for Meaning". One of his key concepts is called self-transcendence. He mentions how psychologists like Maslow focus on "self-actualization" from a cellular perspective but in reality, paradoxically, one actualizes himself by self-transcendence; by not focusing on the ME ME ME but focusing on the WE WE WE. By focusing on the greater plan, we actualize ourselves; not by focusing on the "Bloodstream Marketing" plan.

You have been reflecting and touching on some powerful stuff.

[cacheborn]

Originally Posted by SeaRod

Wow Steve, this article deeply resonates with me at an intuitive level. I would recommend reading Viktor Frankl's "Man's Search for Meaning". One of his key concepts is called self-transcendence. He mentions how psychologists like Maslow focus on "self-actualization" from a cellular perspective but in reality, paradoxically, one actualizes himself by self-transcendence; by not focusing on the ME ME ME but focusing on the WE WE WE. By focusing on the greater plan, we actualize ourselves; not by focusing on the "Bloodstream Marketing" plan.

You have been reflecting and touching on some powerful stuff.

Carl Jung also talks about collective unconscious.

[Savage]

Originally Posted by Speedbump

I asked for some serious guidance today, and then I read this blog post and it's there, everything I truly needed to hear, right down to very specific details that apply to my situation. Thanks for that.

That explains why I got a knock from the universe to write this article today. At 6700 words, it was a challenging piece to write and edit in one day, but I enjoyed writing it. Thanks for that.

Tomorrow I'm spending time with the kids, so I'm telling the universe I'm on break.

[Savage]

Originally Posted by SeaRod

Wow Steve, this article deeply resonates with me at an intuitive level. I would recommend reading Viktor Frankl's "Man's Search for Meaning". One of his key concepts is called self-transcendence. He mentions how psychologists like Maslow focus on "self-actualization" from a cellular perspective but in reality, paradoxically, one actualizes himself by self-transcendence; by not focusing on the ME ME ME but focusing on the WE WE WE. By focusing on the greater plan, we actualize ourselves; not by focusing on the "Bloodstream Marketing" plan.

You have been reflecting and touching on some powerful stuff.

I read that book in my 20s, and synchronistically, I recently watched a documentary about Auschwitz.

And to balance it with a staunchly individualistic perspective, I watched Atlas Shrugged and listened to Ayn Rand's Anthem as an audiobook this month.

In case anyone asks, the audiobook about Google I mentioned in the article is called In the Plex. Highly recommended for those who like tech bios.

[Elrond]

I sometime think we were meant to just do whatever our instincts tells us (or maybe what our passion is), and that makes things work out in the end. Do the cells of the body have this self-serving/other-serving duality? I doubt it, and it would be kindof void to have it. They serve themselves, and at the same time serve the body, because they do what they are meant to do, and get influenced by "higher consciousness", which would be some manual and many automated signals from our brains, to do what is best for the body.

I think most animals are doing it right, whatever it is that they're doing. It is only us humans with our sophisticated cognition that seem to get divided and torn between any imaginable, abstract thing.

If "higher consciousness" wants us to do things that we aren't doing, and we have to jump through intellectual and experiential loops to get to a point where we 'get it',,, then I'll say to that higher consciousness that that is an incredibly stupid design (if it had indeed designed it).

The cell/body analogy is quite interesting to me, because to me it is in fact a great example of a design in which you have a larger body, and incredibly many individual units that are working in unison to sustain a very complex thing. And that is with just what nature has given us, no need for religions or dogma or personal development or lightworking or darkworking or anything in between; they just do what they are designed to do and, for the most part, they do it great. They probably don't need no philosophies to do it better, either.

[Bradshaw]

Thank you for channeling this article for me.

Funny... before waking up today, I had a vision where I saw a bunch of cells teaming up and activating each other.

This article pretty much explains why I haven't had to worry about money, relationships, or pretty much anything else in my life. Things just come to me without lifting a finger. Without lifting a single finger.... money, relationships, free travel opportunities. Anything and everything.

It's so incredibly ridiculous how free things come into my life. My best friend calls me "The King of the Free Lunch".

These days thoughts like "I'm in paradise" and "This is amazing" are regular in my consciousness. Sometimes it's difficult to look outside and observing that other people are not living in this blissful heaven, and that's when I'm reminded that this is the thing to do. Raising people's consciousness.

Like you, my relationships also defy social convention and common labels.

So I can vouch that once you dedicate yourself to serving humanity--no... that's not quite it--once you dedicate yourself to help raise humanity's global consciousness--no, that's not it--once you BECOME, body, mind and spirit, an agent of global consciousness evolution, the most amazing things will come to you, passively.

Some mornings I just feel like exploding out of joy and happiness. Do you also get this feeling, Steve?

If I described my life to anyone I think few people would believe it... and likewise, I have no clue what to say to people what I do for a living. I just say "I'm free".

It's funny how when I did Internet Marketing before, I was miserable.

[szon]

While this post was packed with many challenging yet inspiring ideas, there were some parts that concerned me and others that confused me.

The idea of some 'cells'/'people' not being that important to the body of humanity is a confusing and a scary idea. Regardless of whether it is true or not, I think it may be dangerous to put it out there so casually. I can imagine someone who may be 'asleep' and living a life that is not flowing well but who is still attempting to understand and improve his/her life situation reading this article and feeling like their efforts are futile because they appear to belong in the category of cells that are not vital for humanity. Clearly this person is engaging with the article from an individual cell level consciousness but that's the only consciousness they have access to at the time. Obviously who is and is not vital is not a decision that cells make but I think that this article may mislead people to make such decisions for themselves. Who is this article intended for? Would it be serving humanity to contribute to exacerbating the sense of worthlessness individual cells already feel because they may not be able to see how they fit into the whole? These were just my instinctual reactions to parts of the article that seemed very absolute in nature.

On another note, this is a very interesting idea. It provides a framework from which I begin to falter when I try to understand concepts like 'responsibility', 'law of attraction', 'personal desire/ambition', 'free will'...

The notion that there is a greater consciousness with pre-defined goals (expansion, growth, evolution etc.) is difficult to accept/comprehend. Given this along with the notion that the individual cell is just not equipped to understand the whole, makes it even more challenging to understand how to make your personal decisions.

Another concern with the framework I had is how we go about interpreting the world. There are hoards of people in the world who live very comfortably and are satisfied with their existence. But if you look at the consequences of the way they live, a lot of it supports systems that are incredibly unjust. But when you apply the assessment that Steve provides of whether things are flowing in your life as an indicator of how valuable you are to the goals of humanity, from those individual's perspective, they would conclude that they are. But if you step back and look at how much their lifestyles are contributing to upholding a system that produces poverty, you begin to question this assessment provided in the article. Maybe, I'm missing a piece but your insights would be helpful. But the other part of the equation is that the people that are born into these impoverished lives are encouraged to believe that they are not vital to the goals of humanity. This paradox his hard to stomach.

What do you think?

[Kali]

Originally Posted by Elrond

They serve themselves, and at the same time serve the body, because they do what they are meant to do, and get influenced by "higher consciousness", which would be some manual and many automated signals from our brains, to do what is best for the body.

I recommend that you take a human anatomy and physiology class and lab. You might change your perspective. It certainly changed mine.

The cell/body analogy is quite interesting to me, because to me it is in fact a great example of a design in which you have a larger body, and incredibly many individual units that are working in unison to sustain a very complex thing. And that is with just what nature has given us, no need for religions or dogma or personal development or lightworking or darkworking or anything in between; they just do what they are designed to do and, for the most part, they do it great. They probably don't need no philosophies to do it better, either.

The assumption that the biological units in your body operate independently is flawed, I'm afraid. I'm not trying to engage you in a debate. I think I linked this documentary in another thread....

YouTube - ‪Part 1 - The Ghost in your Genes - BBC Horizon‬‏

There is actually a lot that we simply do not yet comprehend related to the development, function, and structure of the human body. Have you ever seen this? YouTube - ‪Inside Natures Giants - S1 E4 - The Giraffe Part 1/5 HD‬‏

[Ender22]

If any of you have woken up and are now looking for a great way to join a large collection of awakened cells and make a huge difference in transforming the lives of everyone on the planet and the collective whole, I really recommend you check out the zeitgeist movement and our advocation towards a resource based economy.

We are a large grassroots movement (over 500,000 members). We feel it's so important to look at the root cause of nearly all of the worlds problems and to tackle them from this root level.

Poverty, unemployment, starvation, unequal wealth distribution, aberrant behavior, crime, corruption and more can all be traced to a root cause, and tackling the problem at this root is how we make true and lasting transformations to the entire world.

This solution to these problems can be found in an idea known as a resource based economy which can be affectively introduced in our TEDx talk here:

It's time for the world to come together and update the system. It's time for us to move beyond wars, crime, poverty, politics, corruption, resource depletion, and this individualistic mentality.

Here is a feature length documentary explaining the problems with the current system and introducing a solution:

and its sequel here. Which delves further into the issue and the solution.

Here is an introduction from the zeitgeist movement website to explain things a little further:

Founded in 2008, The Zeitgeist Movement is a Sustainability Advocacy Organization which conducts community based activism and awareness actions through a network of Global/Regional Chapters, Project Teams, Annual Events, Media and Charity Work.

The Movement's principle focus includes the recognition that the majority of the social problems which plague the human species at this time are not the sole result of some institutional corruption, scarcity, a political policy, a flaw of "human nature" or other commonly held assumptions of causality in the activist community. Rather, The Movement recognizes that issues such as poverty, corruption, collapse, homelessness, war, starvation and the like appear to be "Symptoms" born out of an outdated social structure.

While intermediate Reform steps and temporal Community Support are of interest to The Movement, the defining goal here is the installation of a new socioeconomic model based upon technically responsible Resource Management, Allocation and Distribution through what would be considered The Scientific Method of reasoning problems and finding optimized solutions.

This "Resource-Based Economic Model” is about taking a direct technical approach to social management as opposed to a Monetary or even Political one. It is about updating the workings of society to the most advanced and proven methods Science has to offer, leaving behind the damaging consequences and limiting inhibitions which are generated by our current system of monetary exchange, profits, corporations and other structural and motivational components.

The Movement is loyal to a train of thought, not figures or institutions. In other words, the view held is that through the use of socially targeted research and tested understandings in Science and Technology, we are now able to logically arrive at societal applications which could be profoundly more effective in meeting the needs of the human population. In fact, so much so, that there is little reason to assume war, poverty, most crimes and many other money-based scarcity effects common in our current model cannot be resolved over time.

I recommend you look into the ideas presented as they are a true practical way we can use our awakened awareness to change the entire world and reach a world of unprecedented oneness and abundance.

Cheers to all who seek a better world

[secrets0stolen]

I utterly adore this post. I've always had an inkling that this is the sort of perspective that fulfilling and exhilarating to work from; but its discouraging to not see or hear anything unapologetically from that perspective--as well as experiencing very vocal perspectives that pretend to be opposed to it--and begin to wonder if you're a bit of a nut or a hopeless dreamer.

Thanks for the validation.

[Savage]

Originally Posted by Bradshaw

Some mornings I just feel like exploding out of joy and happiness. Do you also get this feeling, Steve?

Yup.

[Savage]

Originally Posted by Elrond

And that is with just what nature has given us, no need for religions or dogma or personal development or lightworking or darkworking or anything in between; they just do what they are designed to do and, for the most part, they do it great. They probably don't need no philosophies to do it better, either.

That would be fine if we lived as wild animals do, naked in nature with fresh air, lots of plants, and raw food.

But if you've been born into a different kind of work and raised to live differently than animals, then it does take some effort to regain this way of living.

When I eat more raw foods, I can feel how much better my body functions. Last night I also did 45 min of yoga, breathing, and meditation, and I could feel the energy difference in my body afterwards. You could say that these are compensations for living in modern society. But how many people would make the correct compensations if they didn't think about it consciously though? How many people still have those instincts calibrated properly?

Let a socially conditioned person follow their instincts, and they won't get much further than Taco Bell.

[Savage]

Originally Posted by szon

Clearly this person is engaging with the article from an individual cell level consciousness but that's the only consciousness they have access to at the time.

Not at all. Anyone can tune into universal consciousness at any time. So if someone feels they're being left behind because they only care about themselves, it only takes a few seconds to adjust one's perspective. More power will come from having that higher level perspective.

This is how many people lifted themselves out of poverty, for instance. They began caring about something larger than just themselves.

But the other part of the equation is that the people that are born into these impoverished lives are encouraged to believe that they are not vital to the goals of humanity. This paradox his hard to stomach.

You may be projecting a bit. Sometimes people who seem like they're in circumstances you consider negative might actually be happy with their current approach, and vice versa.

For example, some countries that once commanded a great deal of wealth and power have evolved down different paths. Italy is one that comes to mind. India is another. And of course China is evolving in a different direction these days.

For some people, material wealth seems like a good idea. For others, a spiritual path is the way to go. And for others, it's all about family, art, and culture.

Look how extreme poverty affects other cells though. It creates ripples throughout humanity. It gives rise to memes like generosity and compassion and caring. It spreads new waves of thinking and doing across the planet. Is that such a bad thing?

For everything we might label as negative, such as war, there can be waves of expansion in other directions, such as peace. For every yin, there's a yang.

[Savage]

Let me add that holding the perspective of serving humanity isn't all about work, work, work. When you begin to think at the level of universal consciousness, you may feel really good when you think about all that we've accomplished.

Instead of thinking competitively in terms of individual achievements, you can share in our collective achievements, and a slice of that is worth a lot more than anything you could achieve as an individual.

So you get to think about all of humanity's accomplishments as if they're you're own. We're exploring outer space. We're figuring out alternative energy sources. We're organizing all the world's knowledge for everyone to access instantly.

These are much greater accomplishments than what anyone could achieve individually. There's a lot more joy and excitement to be found in this larger playing field.

What more can we co-create together?

[Asmoday]

Very, very well done, Cousin.

I absolutely adored the experience of reading this post -- there was a good deal of flow, and free choice in the conscious energy of it, that couldn't help but to rub off.

What is glaringly obvious to me, and to many others is that you are called to Leadership, and have been for a while. There is still some resistance there that I can feel, but can't ping the source. In any case, I've watched you take this journey, and I think you're starting to sense your own Author-ity. I encourage you to embrace it fully. After all, if not you, who? If not now, when?

Of course, there is a gap which still remains, a gap I would like to close. That is, you've always likened us to cancerous cells in the body. In response, I don't hold up conjecture, or logic, I simply hold up the world we observe. Throughout history, and especially now, there are many who serve themselves, without regard and trampling upon the larger body, who can rightly be called Darkworkers, who have had their needs met in spades. And, many of them die happy, healthy, surrounded by their loved ones. I think we want to believe in this karmic justice for the "villains" of our little story, but in the end its just dust and air. More importantly, it is not congruent with the body-model.

I want to be clear -- I'm not trying to argue, I'm trying to understand. This sticking point is one I have wrestled with for quite some time. We too undergo this alignment with universal consciousness, as you put it, but we experience it differently. Rather than bowing before it, we sit in the seat of it -- coming to realize that our Self is this Self. Literally. The movement of this awakening is synonymous with movement along the path itself, indeed, it defines it. And, once there, we see as you have stated -- some cells are more important than others. We simply see our "anchor" cell, the primary point of our consciousness in this particular experiment, as the "golden" cell...but most important of all -- we're talking about the exact same thing, the same coin, just viewed from different sides.

LOL, I have too much to say.

I humbly ask that you try this paradigm on for a moment, and see what you come up with -- what if, Steve, instead of being the cancer, what if we Darkworkers were the white blood cells? The ones who purge and clear. After all, a white blood cell would have to have a hunter-seeker, dog-eat-dog mentality to serve the required function in the larger body. And, if this is true, what is the larger cancer? No answers implied, simply a thought experiment.

We are entropy within the human consciousness -- this is not contested -- and entropy is a natural and necessary force. Just as you are.

To take it up a notch, from the cellular to the tribal, for example, we can consider two roles essential to the tribe. The medicine man heals, bolsters, and positively supports the rest of the tribe. A classic Lightworking modality, and his or her consciousness will definitely be stained and colored by the outlook required for this role. But, what of the Warrior who protects and defends the tribe, using destruction for the benefit of the whole? The metaphor breaks down, because one can argue in true enlightenment the Warrior would be unnecessary, but then, the medicine man would too under Enlightenment, would he or she not?

I can also say that on my side of the line, much of what you say is supported. There is a purge going on within the Darkworkers, so to speak. Many, myself included, have been "knocked down", hard. The commonality I see is that those who have been slapped are those who are not clining to the Pyramid -- that system which seeks to keep consciousness down. I think it is clear that we are not shifting in polarity. As much as some Lightworkers might want it, this Aquarian shift is not going to wipe us clear. It is, however, going to fundamentally change us, as it is you and yours, and like you, I am excited by it. The money game is getting quite old. But, that's all conjecture, I can't make heads or tails of why the elite, who serve the old way, seem as of yet to be untouched. And, I'm not jumping to premature conclusion. If you have insight, please share. As for my current state, all I can do is have a sense of humor:

YouTube - ‪Coldplay - Viva La Vida Lyrics‬‏

I say all this because I desperately believe that building a bridge between the two groups is critically important to the time we are in. This evolution is going to require all of us. And, this isn't new thought -- all the big leaps have always required the cooperation of both camps. After all, in an engine, all the pistons have to move congruent to the same purpose, or -- stall out.

In any case, I really enjoyed this post. Thank you very much Steve.

[Cado]

Hehe, Asmoday chose a good time to hop in. Much of what I had to say had already been said, but another take is hardly unwelcome, no?

To serve oneself is not malevolence. You know this-in fact one thing I've always respected is that while many of the forumgoers are quick to jump on the "darkworkers are sadistic bastards" bandwagon you understand that there's no inherent desire to hurt, and yet the way you've phrased some of your responses makes it sound like you think we'd be dismayed at helping the whole.

I'm sure that's true for some. I can't speak for all, especially regarding such an individualistic path. I will, however, share a bit of dialog from something I've been working on:

"I have come here for myself but by my actions I've become the voice of the voiceless and before I'm through the screams you've silenced will echo from your throats. You call yourselves gods but I, a mortal, have ascended beyond you and in mankind's eleventh hour I bring judgement."

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't see that as something a lightworker would say, and I could see a statement like that being necessary at some point in the trials we face in the modern world. Make no mistake, I'm not bent on saving the planet-but this is a nice place to live, it's the only home I know, and for some reason as I delve deeper I feel a natural sense of compassion though I know it's somehow different from what you experience. I can't quite put it into words; there's so much I'm starting to realize that is very, very difficult to put into words.

The one thing which is easy is that I don't think we're enemies, and in fact I believe that's responsible for more "evil" than any conscious use of destructive energies one can conceive of. If no one delved into the shadows much would be lost, the same as we'd all turn feral if no one communed with the above. I don't completely understand it but I don't really need to. We don't really need to. I find it's better not to ask questions and instead explore.

Talk is cheap and conjecture is worthless. Answers lie in action, not contemplation. The action in this case? Collaboration. The specifics of that will have to be worked out over time.

[Asmoday]

One thing I might add is how illuminating Steve's post is, but I have to digress for a second...

One could ask, does the galaxy spiral clockwise or counter-clockwise?

This, of course, goes back to the primordial symbol of the spiral, which predates the Oroboros -- and is often used to express the two paths. Counter-clockwise for the Left-Hand; Clockwise for the Right-Hand.

Clear answer is neither: It simply spirals. The direction is determined solely by your vantage point, your perspective, as you observe it.

Is your perspective an illusion? No. Is the galaxy an illusion? No.

For us, the perspective and the galaxy are one, or more succinctly...

Lightworking and Darkworking are, ultimately, the same thing. A road, with the same starting point and end goal, with difference in perception reflecting the duality of all existence. One thing exists as does its partner, an infinum.

In a similar sense, take two people. They are essentially the same. Both have minds which function according to the same mechanism, same biological properties. They have emotions, and want things, and so on and so forth. But, at the same time, just as we see radically different galaxies, we see a chasm of differences between these two people. Personality, makeup, physical characteristics, and so on. In reality, these vast differences are the result of very subtle differences in experience and genetic code.

In a similar manner, Lightworkers and Darkworkers are ridiculously similar, and vastly different at the same time. The reason for the divergence is due to a very subtle difference in perspective.

Steve's post illustrates this difference perfectly. The universal consciousness is externalised. It is "out there" and they "serve it". They join with it as a drop of rain falls into a pond.

We Darkworkers look at that and blink, and kinda get creeped out.

Likewise, we internalize this same universal consciousness. We become it, fully. Our self grows like a shadow until it begins to cover all things, forming the world in our own image.

They look at this, blink, and kinda get creeped out.

I am pointing out that the exact same thing is happening. Its the same mechanism. The ultimate difference between us is of our own fabrication. And here now, we can see this difference in steam perfectly, like a rope, we can almost reach out and pluck it.

I'm looking forward to seeing what kind of music we can play with it.

[Savage]

An intelligent darkworker wouldn't likely be a cancer cell, although a cell suffering from darkworker syndrome could become cancerous. I mentioned that in some previous articles a few years back.

[Savage]

Originally Posted by Asmoday

One thing I might add is how illuminating Steve's post is, but I have to digress for a second...

One could ask, does the galaxy spiral clockwise or counter-clockwise?

This, of course, goes back to the primordial symbol of the spiral, which predates the Oroboros -- and is often used to express the two paths. Counter-clockwise for the Left-Hand; Clockwise for the Right-Hand.

Clear answer is neither: It simply spirals. The direction is determined solely by your vantage point, your perspective, as you observe it.

Is your perspective an illusion? No. Is the galaxy an illusion? No.

For us, the perspective and the galaxy are one, or more succinctly...

Lightworking and Darkworking are, ultimately, the same thing. A road, with the same starting point and end goal, with difference in perception reflecting the duality of all existence. One thing exists as does its partner, an infinum.

In a similar sense, take two people. They are essentially the same. Both have minds which function according to the same mechanism, same biological properties. They have emotions, and want things, and so on and so forth. But, at the same time, just as we see radically different galaxies, we see a chasm of differences between these two people. Personality, makeup, physical characteristics, and so on. In reality, these vast differences are the result of very subtle differences in experience and genetic code.

In a similar manner, Lightworkers and Darkworkers are ridiculously similar, and vastly different at the same time. The reason for the divergence is due to a very subtle difference in perspective.

Steve's post illustrates this difference perfectly. The universal consciousness is externalised. It is "out there" and they "serve it". They join with it as a drop of rain falls into a pond.

We Darkworkers look at that and blink, and kinda get creeped out.

Likewise, we internalize this same universal consciousness. We become it, fully. Our self grows like a shadow until it begins to cover all things, forming the world in our own image.

They look at this, blink, and kinda get creeped out.

I am pointing out that the exact same thing is happening. Its the same mechanism. The ultimate difference between us is of our own fabrication. And here now, we can see this difference in steam perfectly, like a rope, we can almost reach out and pluck it.

I'm looking forward to seeing what kind of music we can play with it.

An apt description.

I find subjective reality to be very helpful on this path because there's only one consciousness in a dream world, and everyone is a part of it. It's very enlightening to have a conversation with someone I just met and discuss the possibility that one or both of us are figments. At first I might have thought that such topics would creep the other person out, but that has never happened that I'm aware of. The typical outcome is that we both end up utterly fascinated... and wondering.

[escapeplan]

I feel that this is one of the best articles I've ever read, and there's nothing within it that could be disagreed with. If anything, my only concern is that the article didn't go far enough.

One of the best things Steve did is highlight the conflict between individual (selfish) desires and the need to balance those against the universal objectives. I'm worried however that this article may in effect, simply be a new religion in its formative stages. My personal view is that if it does become a religion- it's probably the only one that's got it right! However, we can't- as individual cells- just be involved in "waking up the others". This would be no more meaningful than sending the missionaries into Africa.

Steve has acknowledged the good that capitalism has done, via the achievements of humanity. Yet fundamentally, we know that capitalism is flawed and needs to be moved away from- if for no other reason, than the fact that you cannot have infinite growth (in terms of exploitation of resourses or communities).

So lets assume we are awakening- what do we do next? What would a world look like where everyone is awake and are aware of the powers that lie within their very beings? More importantly, until such time arises, do those who are awake/ awakening, simply disregard wealth and prioritise the "spreading of the word"? Are we simply starting a new faith based pyramid scheme, and if not, how do we survive?

Now it may be that (like with the examples given) there are businesses that do serve humanity, and that we should focus on them. However something inside me doubts that if the main task is to raise consciousness, this is best achieved through the capitalist model. That raises two questions. Firstly, how do we sustain our own needs while awakening others? Secondly, if it is possible to "awaken others" through business, what sort of business do we run? I see three main concerns here. Firstly, that we all become the new world "bible bashers" or secondly, that we justify successful businesses as contributing to society when in fact we are deluding ourselves that they are helping humanity. Thirdly, we find a few businesses that support this model and use them as "evidence" as to the type of things we should be doing.

Again, I stress, I agree with the article, but I feel it lacks two things. It lacks the extent of the power of mental functions, and it lacks the guidance for the transition phase (which we are now in) from capitalism/ survival mode to the global conscious awakening.