How does one polarize?

[starlet]

Does anyone have any techniques on how to polarize, especially advice for darkworkers? I want to do this as easily and seemlessly as possible

[escapee]

Start stealing from grocery shop and get caught. (kidding )

[impaul99]

Originally Posted by starlet

Does anyone have any techniques on how to polarize, especially advice for darkworkers? I want to do this as easily and seemlessly as possible

Yeah, I'd like to know as well.

Like, lets say you pick darkworker as a polarization. Then you're sitting there and an idea pops into your head that has LIGHTWorker energy behind it. What do you to? Ignore it? Convert it to Darkworker energy?

Does polarizing only apply to super large projects in your life, or do you apply it to all your intentions like lets say the intention to order pizza?

[Mr_A]

As a darkworker or a lightworker your main philosophy should be to Grow, Learn, Teach, and Create.
Both polarities are constructive. People get this idea that darkworkers are destructive in someway.
Another thing steve labels the polarities as Fear and Love based which gets everyone confused.
My opinion if you are a high level Darkworker or Lightworker you have mastered the Law of Attraction, you know that you are the creator of your reality, so then why would you fear anything. My opinion is Fear is a result of not picking a polarity, not a property of Darkworker’s polarity.

Now how do Darkworkers become more powerful. Darkwokers are only concerned about getting themselves to grow, getting more powerful and versing/creating quality competitors. Darkworkers know they get stronger versing quality competitors not by versing weak competitors. Darkworkers don’t help people with compassion; they help people by making them more power and dominant. Darkworkers know if their competitor becomes more powerful it forces them to work harder to become even more powerful. They help people by making them quality competitor. Therefore creating more resistance for them to grow. And the more resistance you push the more growth you get. And the irony is even if you do fail, you learn more from your failures than you do from your successes

Dark-Dominant
Light-Compassion

[impaul99]

Under the pretense of "What goes around comes around", couldn't a darkworker do ANYTHING and still consider themselves a polarized darkworker?

Like, couldn't I say that everything I do is Darkworker motivated energy, and everything I do that isn't I'm doing because "What goes around comes around" and therefore it is now darkworker polarized!

WOuldn' this make darkworker polarization super easy?

Like, for example, couldn't I join Steve's corporation (Lightworker polarized) but just say to myself that I'm only doing it all because of "What goes around comes around" and therefore it's all darkworker polarized for me no matter what I do?

[shant121]

that raises a question, which maybe i'll answer myself tonight

ok Paul, really wanted to answer ur question! but not sure if understood u correctly. do you mean the following:

If highly conscious dark and light workers understand the following:

If a single cell in the body were super intelligent, it wouldn’t matter if it was a lightworker or a darkworker. It would recognize that its own good and the good of the whole body are the same good. It would have the wisdom to make decisions that would improve its own long-term well-being and that of the whole body simultaneously. This cell would serve as a role model for others, such that if every other cell followed its lead, the whole body would thrive.

then,
even though their motivation may be opposite (love of self/for others), their actions and end result would be the same.

In this case, would it matter if we have a corporation mixed with light and dark workers, as long as they are conscious and polarized?

[Mr_A]

Originally Posted by impaul99
Does polarizing only apply to super large projects in your life, or do you apply it to all your intentions like lets say the intention to order pizza?

Whats the difference between How would Darth Vada orders a pizza and how would Luke Skywalker orders a pizza?

[impaul99]

Originally Posted by Mr_A

Whats the difference between How would Darth Vada orders a pizza and how would Luke Skywalker orders a pizza?

Exactly. So then what exactly does "Polarizing Darkworker" actually mean, in practical terms?

At least with my Model of SELFWorkers and WORLDWorkers (see my blog) and then there being LOVE and FEAR energy and balancing SELFWorker and WORLDWorker energy for each of my goals I see a completely practical application of all of this.

Meaning, if I sat down as a coach and went through a goal setting workshop with a client, I would be very easily able to coach him using my Model of thinking... basically anyone with half a brain can understand it. If I wanted to try to teach them to "polarize" using Steve's model I wouldn't know where to start. It's like there's no starting point to begin with, and even if you spend 30 hours explaining it all to them, you're now at an even more confused spot than you were when you started.

I think the problem is that I can't seem to grasp how a person who is TOTALLY polarized in one direction or the other can function in the world. I mean it's one thing to say "I'm polarizing darkworker", but it's a different thing to actually do it. Gah!

[Kingston]

Originally Posted by starlet

Does anyone have any techniques on how to polarize, especially advice for darkworkers? I want to do this as easily and seemlessly as possible

Just a few quick pointers.

-Meditate about inflow. Build it up to a strong feeling of greed and lust.
-Think about advertisement. How do they work, what do they appeal to.
-Study the psychology of persuation (for scientific people)
-Ask for help from dark entities (for gothic/occult people)
-Get a sales job like telemarketing or street sales. The more sales attempts per minute the better.
-Read about conquerors from the past on Wikipedia (Ceasar, Djengis Khan, Tokugawa)
-Feel other peoples motives when you listen to them.
-Stand erect. Move deliberately.
-Do important things as fast as possible, but don't hurry.
-Accentuate your good qualities.
-Don't talk about yourself. Listen.

All these things point to a direction and make you more aware of your interests. You have to FEEL it.

Good luck Starlet.

[Kingston]

Originally Posted by impaul99

Meaning, if I sat down as a coach and went through a goal setting workshop with a client, I would be very easily able to coach him using my Model of thinking... basically anyone with half a brain can understand it. If I wanted to try to teach them to "polarize" using Steve's model I wouldn't know where to start. It's like there's no starting point to begin with, and even if you spend 30 hours explaining it all to them, you're now at an even more confused spot than you were when you started.

Your client has to be at the level of reason before he or she polarizes. Otherwize they will suffer the light- or darkworker syndrome. Same goes for you by the way.

You polarize further by conscious decision, the feeling guides you after that. I told you repeatedly to re-read Steve's articles but you don't do it. You just keep sending confused posts. Steve is the one that explains it the best. Trust me.

[starlet]

Now I understand why I've already set out on the darkworker path. I'm a social anthropologist and can read people like a book, I love to be able to predict people. I also worked in the mortgage industry for two years. Mortgage brokering is the occupation of the devil.

[Theo77]

Originally Posted by starlet

Now I understand why I've already set out on the darkworker path. I'm a social anthropologist and can read people like a book, I love to be able to predict people. I also worked in the mortgage industry for two years. Mortgage brokering is the occupation of the devil.

I think you are right about that!

[impaul99]

Originally Posted by Kingston

Just a few quick pointers.

-Meditate about inflow. Build it up to a strong feeling of greed and lust.
-Think about advertisement. How do they work, what do they appeal to.
-Study the psychology of persuation (for scientific people)
-Ask for help from dark entities (for gothic/occult people)
-Get a sales job like telemarketing or street sales. The more sales attempts per minute the better.
-Read about conquerors from the past on Wikipedia (Ceasar, Djengis Khan, Tokugawa)
-Feel other peoples motives when you listen to them.
-Stand erect. Move deliberately.
-Do important things as fast as possible, but don't hurry.
-Accentuate your good qualities.
-Don't talk about yourself. Listen.

All these things point to a direction and make you more aware of your interests. You have to FEEL it.

Good luck Starlet.

Your descripiton above is how a Darkworker would interpret IN (darkworker) energy from a place of fear. It doesn't have to be that way. I guarantee you do not have to study goth or Ghengis Khan to polarize Darkworker.

[impaul99]

Originally Posted by Kingston

I told you repeatedly to re-read Steve's articles but you don't do it.

Oh really? And how do you know that? I've read his articles multiple times.

You just keep sending confused posts. Steve is the one that explains it the best. Trust me.

I finally understood it last night. It didn't come from re-reading Steve's articles for the billionth time, it came from meditation and journaling.

[Theo77]

Originally Posted by Kingston

Just a few quick pointers.

-Meditate about inflow. Build it up to a strong feeling of greed and lust.
-Think about advertisement. How do they work, what do they appeal to.
-Study the psychology of persuation (for scientific people)
-Ask for help from dark entities (for gothic/occult people)
-Get a sales job like telemarketing or street sales. The more sales attempts per minute the better.
-Read about conquerors from the past on Wikipedia (Ceasar, Djengis Khan, Tokugawa)
-Feel other peoples motives when you listen to them.
-Stand erect. Move deliberately.
-Do important things as fast as possible, but don't hurry.
-Accentuate your good qualities.
-Don't talk about yourself. Listen.

All these things point to a direction and make you more aware of your interests. You have to FEEL it.

Good luck Starlet.

Those pointers sound good. I have been doing this kind of thing for about a year. I just ran into Steve Pavlina's site not too long ago, and only read the polarization articles a few days ago. I think now that if I hadn't been into this kind of thing already, it would be harder to undestand.

People into magick and stuff see everything in terms of energy, many people though are more oriented toward materialism.

[starlet]

Originally Posted by Theo77

I think you are right about that!

Although I have to admit, I told those morons to get fixed loans, I told them their houses were more then they could afford, but they were stupid and did not listen to me. So not my fault.

And Kingston, I do believe that you can achieve great power and glory without stepping on others. And apparently you have not hung around many who practice the occult - I have, I was Wiccan for a number of years. Trust me, those are some of the brightest lightworkers you'll ever meet.

And why study conquers? I don't plan to build large armies and take over the world. Studying Bill Gates would be more worthy of my time.

[Theo77]

well, Bill gates is a conqueror. Bussiness Empires are still empires, IMO, anyway. Same energy.

[CamC]

IMO, I think reaching a high station in both polarities is self-improving. Both polarities are about becoming the best you can be, but for different reasons. The Darkworkers do it for themselves, and the Lightworkers do it to help others.

I think this is why people are avoiding Lightworkers, they don't realize that they can still improve themselves and enjoy life.

Then we reach the highest point and the line fades away, we realize we weren't separated to begin with.

But many of us know that already, so why polarize? It seems to help I guess you would have to ask Steve, the inventor (discoverer?) of this concept.

[CamC]

Originally Posted by Mr_A

Whats the difference between How would Darth Vada orders a pizza and how would Luke Skywalker orders a pizza?

That's a good question. I think Vader would enjoy the Meat Lover's whereas Skywalker would delight himself in the Hawaiian.

[starlet]

Originally Posted by Theo77

well, Bill gates is a conqueror. Bussiness Empires are still empires, IMO, anyway. Same energy.

But what he did to get there is a lot more useful to me in terms of applying it to my own goals

[Kingston]

Originally Posted by starlet

And Kingston, I do believe that you can achieve great power and glory without stepping on others. And apparently you have not hung around many who practice the occult - I have, I was Wiccan for a number of years. Trust me, those are some of the brightest lightworkers you'll ever meet.

And why study conquers? I don't plan to build large armies and take over the world. Studying Bill Gates would be more worthy of my time.

Yes, you don't need to step on others. You have to align your interests with them. Like a good salesperson does.. Ideally you want the repeat business
Generally you should be the best and most charismatic person you can be, whatever your polarity.

And the occult can be used both for light and dark. I have met mostly hippie style light-types. Wicca is usually light. But there are also dark possibilities.

Steve has a post about desire that was channeled by the goddess of universal compasion. In the same way you could learn to "channel" messages from Mammon, Azrael or whethever.

I am mostly into science though.

And yes, you can take any model you like, wether it be Bill or Gengis.. You should take actors I guess. Bill Gates achieved a lot, but I am not interested in emulating him, just the mood of ambition. So any 'great man' is good enough.

[Kingston]

Originally Posted by impaul99

Oh really? And how do you know that? I've read his articles multiple times.

I finally understood it last night. It didn't come from re-reading Steve's articles for the billionth time, it came from meditation and journaling.

Good for you Impaul.

[wolfgang]

I'm looking at polarization with the perspective that when one is highly motivated - then there tends to be polarization (of some kind).

So, then I try to witness my feelings around a goal, if I feel pretty well motivated, then I've probably polarized. Now, if there's a way to force the polarization maybe the motivation gets kicked up. I don't know how to to that - pick a polarization to be more motivated.

So,for example, if I want to be a stage playing musician, and I feel excited and motivated by thinking how people will admire me, then I notice that and, I guess, I have to decide whether or not to cultivate that feeling more. I didn't have to decide what polarity to use - it was already there when I found the feelings behind a big goal.

So, for me, I guess, how to polarize would be to pull those feelings, that gives you that feeling of excitment and of being well motivated, into your thoughts/emotions and amplify those feelings. Meditate or day dream with the feelings, perhaps.

Review goals and review them with the feelings that bring excitment and lots of motivation to them. Notice that the feelings are probably polarized, the underlying why you are pursueing such a goal probably has polarity already. Or has a pull to one side. Then accentuate the feeling by going polar on it (which is acctually focusing on the main reason of the goal).

[impaul99]

Originally Posted by starlet

Although I have to admit, I told those morons to get fixed loans, I told them their houses were more then they could afford, but they were stupid and did not listen to me. So not my fault.

And Kingston, I do believe that you can achieve great power and glory without stepping on others. And apparently you have not hung around many who practice the occult - I have, I was Wiccan for a number of years. Trust me, those are some of the brightest lightworkers you'll ever meet.

And why study conquers? I don't plan to build large armies and take over the world. Studying Bill Gates would be more worthy of my time.

I'm willing to bet you're a lightworker. You're thinking that Selfworker = darkworker. Lightworker can be Selfworker / Worldworker.

[shant121]

Originally Posted by impaul99

I'm willing to bet you're a lightworker. You're thinking that Selfworker = darkworker. Lightworker can be Selfworker / Worldworker.

See Starlet, thats where Paul definitions differ from Steve!

[impaul99]

Originally Posted by shant121

See Starlet, thats where Paul definitions differ from Steve!

Steve's definitions changed with each article he wrote. His participation in the forums has also been non-existant on this topic, so we've all had to pull together and solve this one on our own.

The definitions I wrote in my article were compiled from all the discussions on these forums, not something I came up with just by myself. At this time I think they are the most understood, but they do conflict with Steve's articles in a few cases. You can pick whichever version you prefer. My model is the only one that makes logical/practical sense to me.