Polarization: How long until you see results?

[impaul99]

For those of you who are doing trials as lightworkers/darkworkers, I'm curious to hear how long it takes to get results once you polarize.

Like, it would be cool to hear what your goals are and how much progress you've made towards attracting them and then some form of quantifiable evidence that there was a major boost once you polarized.

I'm curious to hear if Steve thinks that a 30-day trial of either side is sufficient to see results, or if it's a path you have to devote years and years to before you see results.

[Theo77]

I haven't officially started mine, but I've noticed a boost in energy. I think its related to eliminating inner conflict to a degree.

i am still brainstorming on how to turn this into a measurable goal. I am going to read over Some More of Syeve's articles on the 30 trial concept and see how I can relate it to the polarization articles.

I'd be curious to hear anyones ideas as well.

[Truefire]

I found the results were immediate. Literally, a few minutes after making a solid conscious decision to polarize.

Some symptoms of switching to the dark side...

Massive drop in social anxiety. I used to stutter and slur my words, no more!
More energy, increase in force of desire/focus.
Heightened sense of awareness/clarity/consciousness.
Greater focus in the classroom, as well as faster ability to learn new info.
Music sounded more enthralling, almost euphoric sometimes.

Then I crashed due to darkworker syndrome. But I'm back on the path after resolving my issues with darkworking and good and evil and spirituality. I'm experiencing all of the same symptoms again.


@Theo77
you don't really need to measure your goal here. Just dive in, get your hands dirty, and see what all the fuss is about. I started as a 30 day trial, then I realized I was already heavily inclined to take the inflow polarization.

[peacefulmind]

Originally Posted by Truefire

I found the results were immediate. Literally, a few minutes after making a solid conscious decision to polarize.

Some symptoms of switching to the dark side...

Massive drop in social anxiety. I used to stutter and slur my words, no more!
More energy, increase in force of desire/focus.
Heightened sense of awareness/clarity/consciousness.
Greater focus in the classroom, as well as faster ability to learn new info.
Music sounded more enthralling, almost euphoric sometimes.

Then I crashed due to darkworker syndrome. But I'm back on the path after resolving my issues with darkworking and good and evil and spirituality. I'm experiencing all of the same symptoms again.


@Theo77
you don't really need to measure your goal here. Just dive in, get your hands dirty, and see what all the fuss is about. I started as a 30 day trial, then I realized I was already heavily inclined to take the inflow polarization.

I'm sure the results of switching into darkworker mode are immediate but how does one switch into darkworker mode. What are you supposed to do differently? I am trying to do this 30 day trial thing but I don’t know where to start.

[Truefire]

Go right back to the first few blogs on polarization, and apply the concept to the law of attraction. INFLOW. Embrace your ego, understand it has needs and desires that need to be acted on. Embrace your desire for power and strength and self worth. Understand that your needs come first. etc etc. I thought it was pretty straightforward.

[impaul99]

Originally Posted by peacefulmind

I'm sure the results of switching into darkworker mode are immediate but how does one switch into darkworker mode. What are you supposed to do differently? I am trying to do this 30 day trial thing but I don’t know where to start.

Yup, I feel the same way. I've been trying to wrap my head around Steve's polarization concepts for weeks now and in the background working on my own Model that makes sense to me. Finally this week I finished my model and posted it on my blog with pictures and detailed descriptions of how it works. THAT Model I can easily implement practically and teach to anyone, BUT having completed my model I wanted to come back here to see if I could still grasp Steve's model.

However, just like you I'm totally confused as to what it even means to "polarize darkworker". I mean it's one thing to say "Yup, I've polarized", but it's another thing to actually understand the implications of that decision across your whole life. I think it's a major decision, so I kind of find it curious how some people are able to do it so quickly.

The other thing that's kind of worrying me about this is that Steve's completely dropped the subject. I haven't seen a single post from him on any of this for a long time. It seems like he's given up on it or something. Maybe he understands it for himself and his life, but thinks we won't get it so he's not bothering with any more explanations. If that's the case, I think I'm gonna just drop this and stick to my model that's been working for me in life.

*shrug* I would like to give Steve's model a chance, but I just don't get how.

[Truefire]

I like to think of polarization as a tool. If I want to develop a strong desire for a goal, I visualize taking something, making it mine, expanding my influence. For me this is far more motivating than thinking about what I could give.

For example in a social situation:
I try making ME feel good, as opposed to making others feel good. It just so happens that it makes ME feel BEST when I feel good, making others feel good, which makes me feel good in a continuous loop, thereby providing me with more lasting happiness. The result is the same, the flow of energy is different.

I'm on this forum not to help you guys figure this out, I'm trying to learn how to better express myself and my ideas in a safe environment. I'm trying to improve my communication skills. I'm trying to build a good reputation as a respectable member of this board. Its all ME. I work for ME.

I try not to needlessly complicate this intellectually, as I got caught up in meaningless definitions last time and found ways to validate narcissistic behaviours, which led to darkworker syndrome and the inevitable crash.

[impaul99]

Originally Posted by Truefire

I like to think of polarization as a tool. If I want to develop a strong desire for a goal, I visualize taking something, making it mine, expanding my influence. For me this is far more motivating than thinking about what I could give.

For example in a social situation:
I try making ME feel good, as opposed to making others feel good. It just so happens that it makes ME feel BEST when I feel good, making others feel good, which makes me feel good in a continuous loop, thereby providing me with more lasting happiness. The result is the same, the flow of energy is different.

I'm on this forum not to help you guys figure this out, I'm trying to learn how to better express myself and my ideas in a safe environment. I'm trying to improve my communication skills. I'm trying to build a good reputation as a respectable member of this board. Its all ME. I work for ME.

I try not to needlessly complicate this intellectually, as I got caught up in meaningless definitions last time and found ways to validate narcissistic behaviours, which led to darkworker syndrome and the inevitable crash.

Every few days or so, someone PM's me on this forum and asks me a question for advice. As a darkworker then, assuming I get nothing out of answering their questions, would I just tell them to bugger off?

Because right now, when that happens I get the energy of a lightworker flowing through me and I want to help people, so I do. But then afterwords I might go back to my darkworker energy and go work on improving my blog or something. What you're saying is if I stifle my lightworker energy and just always focus on darkworker, I will gain more power and momentum?

[Truefire]

Depends on what you're getting out of answering the pm. Don't stifle anything, that only seems to aggravate things. I think thats why I experienced a lot of positive symptoms. I was trying to stifle my selfish desires and egoistic self, thereby making it stronger and working against me. When I embraced my darker desires it was as if I got closer to myself and could act more freely in the world.

I think practice comes into play here. Practice acting on your personal needs, let your lightside sort of atrophy or meld to you darkside. Its all the same thing in the end. The duality that polarization brings is just seems to amplify my desire and focus.

In reality its all for junk, at the end you realize there really is no difference. no difference between you and me, self and other, its all transcendent subjective reality. Recently, via ghenpo roshi's big mind technique(theres a thread in the spirituality board), I was able to glimpse what real subjective reality is, and its all the same damn thing, and different, non-dualistic and dualistic, light and dark. But that doesn't help me achieve anything. At the moment it just feels really cool, and only exists in meditation once in a while.

I'm trying polarization because it works, until I reach a steady level of consciousness where I don't need to make the distinction of dark to achieve that level of desire that polarization brings. Now I'm just rambling because its late and I'm tired...might have gotten off track.

[impaul99]

Originally Posted by Truefire

Depends on what you're getting out of answering the pm. Don't stifle anything, that only seems to aggravate things. I think thats why I experienced a lot of positive symptoms. I was trying to stifle my selfish desires and egoistic self, thereby making it stronger and working against me. When I embraced my darker desires it was as if I got closer to myself and could act more freely in the world.

I think practice comes into play here. Practice acting on your personal needs, let your lightside sort of atrophy or meld to you darkside. Its all the same thing in the end. The duality that polarization brings is just seems to amplify my desire and focus.

In reality its all for junk, at the end you realize there really is no difference. no difference between you and me, self and other, its all transcendent subjective reality. Recently, via ghenpo roshi's big mind technique(theres a thread in the spirituality board), I was able to glimpse what real subjective reality is, and its all the same damn thing, and different, non-dualistic and dualistic, light and dark. But that doesn't help me achieve anything. At the moment it just feels really cool, and only exists in meditation once in a while.

I'm trying polarization because it works, until I reach a steady level of consciousness where I don't need to make the distinction of dark to achieve that level of desire that polarization brings. Now I'm just rambling because its late and I'm tired...might have gotten off track.

I went away. I sat. I wrote in my journal. The answers came. I now know how to polarize to the dark side.

For $10 I'll teach anyone else as well. Just kiddin. I think I finally got it all of a sudden.

[Truefire]

$10 seriously thats cheap man, I'll take an explanation to go, my visa is...

[Theo77]

As Truefire, mentioned, it seemed fairly obvious to me too what the darkside is and what Steve was talking about. Maybe its harder to grasp for people that are more analytical. Because Its about energy. Its more of a right brain type concept than linguistic/analytical.

So I'll try to explain how I understand it and what polarization would mean.

Over the years, I've come to think of things in terms of energy. How things feel, not in terms of emotion, but in terms of how energy associated with a thing feels. Different things, people, concepts, places, animals have different energy signatures.

Light and dark is one way to catogerize different types of energy. It seems to be the case that mixing these two energies together acts to dilute them.

I think what it is, is that if you have a tendency toward the dark polarity, mixing in light polarity oriented things feels yucky. It feels like guilt manipulation. Darkworkers are more aware of power relationships I think.

So I think what happens is, that if you are unpolarized, you end up being more easily manipulated by guilt. You allow yourself to be manipulated by guilt because you feel if you don't then that makes you a bad person.

I think polarization clarifies things makes them more pure. Gets rid of all the "should's" and the guilt.

Here are some things I associate with Dark polarity. It doesn't mean you have to embody all these things this is just free association basically:

Getting rich.
Getting strong.
Winning.
Pride.
independance.
GQ
Exclusivity
type A personality


If you go to a magazine rack. You might be able to pick up different kinds of energies from different ones. Some cater more to darkworkers. Really a lot of them do. In a more dark magazine, the ads will be really dark. Now in a magazine with kind of a dark feel, you wouldn't all of a sudden see an add employing some type of hokey sentimentality. I mean that's how it would look.

So I think polarization is about distilling these various energies. I think the main advantage is you stop lying to yourself. If you want to be rich and earn respect and buy really nice things and be accepted into exclusive groups, you don't have to tell yourself, your main motivation for making money is to help starving children in the third world.

As far as doing things to help people day to day, to me that is just part of being social. But I think once you are really underway, there is less lag time, more focused action.
self reliance.

[impaul99]

Originally Posted by Truefire

$10 seriously thats cheap man, I'll take an explanation to go, my visa is...

Probably better if you tell me which part you don't get, then I can answer you question.

[impaul99]

Originally Posted by Theo77

Here are some things I associate with Dark polarity. It doesn't mean you have to embody all these things this is just free association basically:

Getting rich.
Getting strong.
Winning.
Pride.
independance.
GQ
Exclusivity
type A personality

This is what I was thinking it was too and that is why I was confused. Now that I finally understand it, I think you're only partially right. I know you're only giving examples, but people should understand that all, some or none of these have to be your path as a darkworker. Meaning, I don't read GQ or have a type A Personality. What I do have is a chameleon type personality where I can adjust to whatever circumstances I'm in.

Actually, nothing you DO is really a darkworker thing. It's really the starting point of all thoughts that determines your polarity, not what you DO.

I'm actually not even sure one can switch polarities. I think you're born with it one way or another, and the only thing you can do is polarize 100% towards yours, not "pick" one.

It has nothing to do with being introverted/extroverted, or even in my model whether one is a SELFWorker / WORLDWorker. Meaning, I now understand that I can be a Darkworker SELFWorker/WORLDWorker, meaning 100% Darkworker/50% SELFWorker/50% WORLDWorker, or 100/20/80, or 100/80/20 or whatever other combination of SELF/WORLD worker.

If you look at my diagram on my blog it is a 2d diagram with 4 quadrants and has 4 directions like a compass (has a X and Y axis). Imagine that in 3D with a Z axis pointing towards/away from you. Z axis is the axis which determines the flow of energy IN our OUT. That energy flowing IN lets say can be then colored by your ego to go in the 4 directions in my diagram, direction of LOVE/FEAR and SELF/WORLD. The energy flowing IN or OUT is neither SELF nor WORLD, nor LOVE nor FEAR. It's just IN energy from source and it gets colored by YOU in one of the 4 directions. "Lightworker" has the same thing except his energy is OUT.

I know I "get it", but it's a bit hard to explain using words.

[starlet]

I've started losing all my self-doubt. I was looking at my list of goals to do before I die, and the "crazy" ones are looking a lot less crazy. I also feel so much more clear and was able to plan my day in about 5 minutes instead of the usual 30 minutes of mental arguing that usually happens. That and I got up an hour before my alam, completely cleaned my bedroom and now I feel even clearer and more organized. Plus seeing my bedroom floor again is a plus, and getting out of my bedroom without risking bodily harm is a major plus

[CamC]

I felt a boost of energy, even anger, when i decided to polarize as a Darkworker. Seems like most ppl are moving in that direction. Then I got DarkWorker Syndrome and stopped. I thought the reason I felt this way was sort of a placebo effect, but looks like a lot of people are experiencing the same thing.

So how do we avoid Darkworker syndrome exactly?




Also, can we make a Darkworker and Lightworker club and slug it out till we move up in consciousness? (jk)

[starlet]

Originally Posted by CamC

I felt a boost of energy, even anger, when i decided to polarize as a Darkworker. Seems like most ppl are moving in that direction. Then I got DarkWorker Syndrome and stopped. I thought the reason I felt this way was sort of a placebo effect, but looks like a lot of people are experiencing the same thing.

Anger at yourself, or the world? I felt anger at the the world when I first started because it had kept me down. I reversed that and remembered that we create our own reality and that it was my "fault" I was kept down, which means I have the power to change that. Then I got this great surge of appreciation and love for myself.

[impaul99]

Originally Posted by CamC

I felt a boost of energy, even anger, when i decided to polarize as a Darkworker. Seems like most ppl are moving in that direction. Then I got DarkWorker Syndrome and stopped. I thought the reason I felt this way was sort of a placebo effect, but looks like a lot of people are experiencing the same thing.

So how do we avoid Darkworker syndrome exactly?

There is no Darkworker Syndrome. A TOTAL connection 100% to darkworker (IN) energy is healthy, not a syndrome. What you're describing and mixing it up with is SELFWorker Syndrome which I think a lot of Darkworker people inevitably run into. To avoid what you call Darkworker Syndrome (actually SELFWorker Syndrome) you need to get rid of FEAR energy in your life. The article I wrote about SELFWorkers/WORLDWorkers explains the two syndromes and how to avoid them:
» SelfWorkers, WorldWorkers and Polarizing with Love or Fear > Self Help Wisdom to Inspire, Empower and Enlighten You

Paul

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by impaul99

There is no Darkworker Syndrome. A TOTAL connection 100% to darkworker (IN) energy is healthy, not a syndrome. What you're describing and mixing it up with is SELFWorker Syndrome which I think a lot of Darkworker people inevitably run into. To avoid what you call Darkworker Syndrome (actually SELFWorker Syndrome) you need to get rid of FEAR energy in your life. The article I wrote about SELFWorkers/WORLDWorkers explains the two syndromes and how to avoid them:
» SelfWorkers, WorldWorkers and Polarizing with Love or Fear > Self Help Wisdom to Inspire, Empower and Enlighten You

Paul

Is it in your thoughts that the extreme case of the syndrome related to fear, is also at the lowest level of consciousness?

[CamC]

Originally Posted by starlet

Anger at yourself, or the world?

The anger wasn't polarized, it was just the feeling of anger. But it was good in a way. I think anger + love = Passion.

[impaul99]

Originally Posted by wolfgang

Is it in your thoughts that the extreme case of the syndrome related to fear, is also at the lowest level of consciousness?

Can you rephrase the question? I don't quite understand what you're asking.