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Old 03-24-2007, 06:44 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Arrow darkworkers, 10 ways to become more conscious

Steve talks about how compassion, truth, ext cause a rise in consciousness but how do these things relate to a darkworker. I understand how all this relates to lightworkers but when it comes to darkworkers it just doesn’t seem to fit. I am referring back to Steve's 10 ways to become more conscious dated back to August 3rd, 2006. Some of the categories make sense when referring to darkworkers but some like compassion do not. A little help please.
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Old 03-24-2007, 08:41 AM   #2 (permalink)
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You're running into the same problem I am. I think you're having trouble because I don't think polarizing in one direction or the other has anything to do with levels of consciousness.

For example, I think you can sit down and do a goal-setting workshop for your life and lets say you come up with 50 goals you would like to accomplish in your life over the next year. Let's say 25 are darkworker motivated/polarized, and 25 are lightworker motivated/polarized. I think that you can develop your consciousness level during that year with the same ease and speed as someone who focused strictly on setting 50 darkworker goals or stringly 50 lightworker goals. In fact, if anything, I think maintaining a balance between the two would help you go through levels of consciousness faster than polarizing all your goals in one direction or the other.
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Old 03-24-2007, 04:47 PM   #3 (permalink)
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You're running into the same problem I am. I think you're having trouble because I don't think polarizing in one direction or the other has anything to do with levels of consciousness.

For example, I think you can sit down and do a goal-setting workshop for your life and lets say you come up with 50 goals you would like to accomplish in your life over the next year. Let's say 25 are darkworker motivated/polarized, and 25 are lightworker motivated/polarized. I think that you can develop your consciousness level during that year with the same ease and speed as someone who focused strictly on setting 50 darkworker goals or stringly 50 lightworker goals. In fact, if anything, I think maintaining a balance between the two would help you go through levels of consciousness faster than polarizing all your goals in one direction or the other.
I don't necessarily think that there are darkness motivated goals and lightness motivated goals in terms of what the goals are. I think that any goal can be turned in to either light or dark depending on what the thought process is behind it. For instance the goal to open a charity organization sounds very much lightworker oriented however, a darkworker can have the same goal but for the reason to get respect and recognition.

I know that the 10 ways to become more conscious can apply to darkworkers in some way I just need someone to tell me how.
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Old 03-25-2007, 03:16 AM   #4 (permalink)
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For future reference, there's a hyperlink option at the top of the post editor -- all you have to do is click there and paste the URL of the page you want to link to. That would make it significantly easier for people to reference the Pavlina post you're talking about.

For those who care, here's the link

Anyway, a lot of them apply in exactly the same way as for lightworkers:

1. Truth
You can't do what's best for you if you're lying to yourself. You can't improve your career unless you make an honest assessment of your current career, your skills and talents, the company you work for, etc. You can't improve your financial situation if you're pretending that $10,000 in debt doesn't exist. Whether you wish to improve yourself or the world, you have to start with honesty.

2. Courage
Once you know the truth, you have to face it and do something about it. Self-improvement isn't always easy. Each major improvement requires a little death of the part of you that needs to go. You have to say to yourself, "I am disorganized. And now I am no longer disorganized. I will kill of the part of me that wants to procrastinate doing dishes, and I will become an entirely new person."

3. Compassion
As Steve discussed today, you'll eventually realise that you'll get farther ahead in life if you're nice to people, and compassion helps with that. But even at low levels, you have to be compassionate towards yourself. Saying, "You are a ^&#(@ing moron! What kind of idiot would make a mistake like that! Now how are you ever going to make that up you blundering, stupid...." will only lower your consciousness.

4. Desire
Again, you can't improve yourself if you don't care. It doesn't matter if you want to change the world or just your financial situation -- desire is the first step.

5. Attention
No one ever got a Black Belt in Karate, a million dollar business, or political office by mistake. In order to be truthful, you have to pay attention to what's going on. Ignorance can be just as bad as deceit in preventing you from reaching your goals.

6. Knowledge
What goals do you have? What do you want your life to be? What do you want to come into your life? And once you've answered those questions, what do you need to do to get what you want? Ignorance is unhelpful, whether it's because you weren't paying attention to what's going on around you, or because you couldn't be bothered to look up what you need.

7. Reason
Which is more likely to make you powerful: deciding on a goal and then planning out a route to it? Or deciding on a goal and then playing basketball? Whether your goal is self- or other-oriented, you need to approach things logically to reach it.

8. Conscious people
I don't really know whether you'd have to hang around with only Darkworkers, or if higher-conscious people of either polarity would help. (I suspect the latter). But mentors are always helpful in teaching you how to get what you want.

9. Energy
You can't be mighty and powerful if you're sick and wasting away.

10. Intention
As with everything else, intending to become more dark-polarized makes it so.

Really, except for compassion, all of those are equally darkworkery or more darkworkery than lightworkery, just as Steve has them written. It's almost more of a question of how to apply them to the light polarity.
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I think compassion is really the only quality from that list that may seem tricky to apply to a darkworker. For a darkworker the equivalent of compassion would be self-respect. This means maintaining high standards and holding yourself in high esteem. It means knowing that you're worthy of greatness.

If instead of compassion, we substitute the word respect, the correlation is more clear. A lightworker treats others with respect (compassion). A darkworker respects himself first and foremost. For a lightworker respect is primarily an outwardly directed quality, something that's expressed towards other people. For a darkworker respect is inwardly directed, an internal sense of self-worth.
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ahimel: thanks a lot for that made things much clearer however one thing is still confusing me and that is truth. Since darkworkers thinks of themselves as superior, wouldn’t speaking the truth at all times not work so well. For example if a darkworker committed a fraud and the evidence against him is not enough to say that he did it, wouldn't it be in the best interest of the darkworker to lie and say that he didn't do it. This is just a thought. The more and more I pry into this I can feel myself getting closer and closer to something good. I don’t know exactly what this good thing is but I know it is good and I know I am getting close to achieving it. This is so exciting.
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ahimel: thanks a lot for that made things much clearer however one thing is still confusing me and that is truth. Since darkworkers thinks of themselves as superior, wouldn’t speaking the truth at all times not work so well. For example if a darkworker committed a fraud and the evidence against him is not enough to say that he did it, wouldn't it be in the best interest of the darkworker to lie and say that he didn't do it. This is just a thought. The more and more I pry into this I can feel myself getting closer and closer to something good. I don’t know exactly what this good thing is but I know it is good and I know I am getting close to achieving it. This is so exciting.
It's about telling the truth to yourself. Be completely honest with yourself. Look at your true thoughts and feelings.

A darkworker would sometimes lie to others, but it's much better in the long run to use this mantra "don't lie, have secrets." People will expose your lies, you have to keep running from lies, if you do something that you have to lie about that will generally make life difficult. But the kind of secrets a darkworker might have, will not surprise people when they figure it out. A darkworker does not have trouble telling others s/he's working only for her/himself. That integrity will probably go over well with his/her business partners, along with the charisma of power.
So - don't do anything until you're powerful enough not to need to lie about it.
Be completely honest with yourself.

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It's about telling the truth to yourself. Be completely honest with yourself. Look at your true thoughts and feelings.

A darkworker would sometimes lie to others, but it's much better in the long run to use this mantra "don't lie, have secrets." People will expose your lies, you have to keep running from lies, if you do something that you have to lie about that will generally make life difficult. But the kind of secrets a darkworker might have, will not surprise people when they figure it out. A darkworker does not have trouble telling others s/he's working only for her/himself. That integrity will probably go over well with his/her business partners, along with the charisma of power.
So - don't do anything until you're powerful enough not to need to lie about it.
Be completely honest with yourself.
Got it ^_^
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Got it ^_^
Great! Yay!


Both of me(yeah, I haven't chosen yet) are just exuberant as seeing others climb up on the high levels of consciousness

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