Darkworkers, Lightworkers, and Levels of Consciousness (Blog)

[mikeschu]

Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina

FYI a great book to learn how to be an intelligent and aware darkworker is The 48 Laws of Power.

Wow, that cleared up my worldview of polarity. Specifically, it cleared up how to become a darkworker that can function at higher levels of consciousness. I have also read The Art of Seduction by the same author (Robert Greene) and would potentially recommend it to those who want to understand darkworkers on a more romantic/intimate level. I have read both of those books and I had the feeling that they didn't set well with me, but I could appreciate them from the standpoint of those books being good reference and knowledge material.

The last couple of articles have really cleared up the disctinction between lightworker and darkworker, and it has really brought up a great internal conflict within me since I truly haven't polarized. I can sense and understand the magnitude of the decision, and how mixing both polarities causes a lot of inconsistency within life. For example, I want to love and assist others, but I crave the power with increased authority. I appreciate how Steve is able to put this into words; I am having a hard time doing it right now. Perhaps a little introspection will help me later so I can assist others with it.

What I would like to ask Steve is for two new articles:

1. A guest darkworker blog entry, or someone who works with darkworkers as their primary focus. Perhaps Robert Greene?
2. An article on how to transition to a lightworker without falling into the traps of Lightworker Syndrome.

I can see myself being a lightworker without too many problems; it's the pull of the darkworker from the past that's keeping me undecided. If people are interested, PM me and I'll discuss it further.

[Shindra]

Originally Posted by wolfgang

It sounds like a darkworker has to keep the lightworker stuff going or suffer. If a darkworker is recognizing her/his good will needs to not be isolated - then what? He/she has to mix polarities? Is that the answer to the sydrome?

I think that when a polarity is fully chosen, one gains enough clarity to avoid the syndrome.

Both light- and darkworkers give and recieve. It's the main intention and motivation that makes them light or dark.

Lightworkers give love to themselves too. Try feeling compassion and caring for yourself.
Very conscious lightworkers knows they have to take good care of themselves in order to take care of others. Be in good health, have enough money to increase their service - for example buy a computer to communicate.
They recieve with gratitude, and to expand their ability for giving.
This is all with the motivation of serving the greatest good for all.

Darkworkers make sure others get too. They 'care for others' with a different motivation, a different emotion - others are important in their plan. Try putting yourself in the mindset of a darkworker with feelings of greed and dominance, and then see the importance of others. Darkworkers would care for the environment, because they live in it. Darkworkers would make sure their business partners are doing well.
Darkworkers give to get. This is all with the motivation of increasing their power.
That is not 'lightworker stuff'. Things that are done are not inherently light or dark.

Hope that helps.

[SeanNogah]

I find the Polarization articles very interesting. I've thought of using the force since 12th grade 3 years ago. I'm confused about how to be just one sided though. We all have a dark side and a light side. Honestly I've given up much of my hope in life. I just turned 21 but feel I lost my soul by conforming to the standard of attending college. This is my second semester failing.I took the easy route and now am afraid of change. I want things to go back to how they were as a teenager. Before I graduated highschool I had all these brillant idea's about sailing around the world or joining a taoist monastery and then moving onward. Instead I feel I've lost touch with my intuition, with that hero I believed I could be. After I read your articles today I was motivated to get an ipod and start multi-tasking. The doctor's put me on wellbutrin and lexapro, but this goes against my ideals. I stopped the lexapro today, and this is my fourth day on wellbutrin. I think I am maybe just to big a dreamer and feel I can never live up to my high expectations. So I abandoned my journey for the time... How can I really have a truly meaningful life? It's all so complex, there has to be more than this physical depressing world. I feel I've got problems keeping me 'stuck' , How can I believe in this beautifully mysterious life again? In myself again? I thought I'd be stronger by now , not weaker... I used to be a truly spiritual guy , reading energy, meditating, always experimenting and trying new things, questioning all of the established thoughts, I feel I've become what i hated, a boring weak ignorant adult... Love - Sean

[Seth]

Hi Sean, I am also 21 and trying to sort everything out. If it makes you feel any better, I promise you are not a boring weak ignorant adult. Just the fact that you are posting here and having these thoughts means you are way above average. Stick with it and keep trying to figure out your life! I mean, unless we kill ourselves, we've got nothing better to do, right?

[Michael Chui]

Part of what it means to be a teenager is to be uncertain and to explore; it's the flipside of maturity which brings with it certainty and experience.

As someone who's graduating in three months, I can say there's incredible amounts to explore in college, if you go looking for it. Reminds me of the song in Avenue Q called "I wish I could go back to college", except in your case, it's high school.

[Thneed]

This has been a fascinating series of posts!

Earlier today I found a collection of essays by Ayn Rand called The Virtue of Selfishness (amazon.com). She advocates rational selfishness (darkworking). It could be an interesting book for someone who wants to learn more about this.

I know Steve has read Ayn Rand before - perhaps that's influenced some of these ideas.

[Michael Chui]

I was under the impression that Steve did not come up with the term or the concept.

[starlet]

I an wondering about something - I have decided to go down the darkworker path. My goals are things I want, to benefit me. But once these goals have manifested, these goals will help many others, both directly and indirectly. Its for my greatest good, but can easily turn into the greates good for a large amount of others. Does that mess with polarity? I am just a little confused.

Thanks much!

[shant121]

Originally Posted by starlet

I an wondering about something - I have decided to go down the darkworker path. My goals are things I want, to benefit me. But once these goals have manifested, these goals will help many others, both directly and indirectly. Its for my greatest good, but can easily turn into the greatest good for a large amount of others. Does that mess with polarity? I am just a little confused.

Thanks much!

No. It does not mess with polarity.
Do you want to accomplish the goals because they will "easily turn into the greatest good for a large amount of others" or you don't care, its just a side effect?

There is a whole lot of debating in other threads over whether Bill Gates is a lightworker or a dark. For this example, I am assuming he is dark. He may have built up Microsoft for his personal motives of power, money etc etc. But look at the result: Windows is by far, by leaps and bounds, the most widely used operating system, ditto for MS Office. they are standardized and even though there may bugs, MS had made life easier for all of us and given great momentum to the computer revolution.

[shant121]

Steve said :

Ultimately these two paths lead to the same place. The lower the level of consciousness, the more distinct they seem. As you go up in levels, the dividing line becomes blurrier, and the actions of lightworkers and darkworkers become increasingly similar. This is because ultimately service to self and service to others become the same thing once you reach the level of awareness to recognize it.

[Shindra]

Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina

FYI a great book to learn how to be an intelligent and aware darkworker is The 48 Laws of Power.

I looked at the first pages of it on Amazon, wherein the laws are summarized. Doesn't the book display darkworker syndrome?

For example, law 17: "Keep others in suspended terror: cultivate an air of unpredictability." That keeping people down in terror.

The book also seems to play up direct dishonesty.
That goes against that a polarized darkworker is easier to trust. People know where they have them, and are thus more likely to make deals with them. If dark lies, unexpected secrets are kept, hidden and unclaimed by the darkworker, they can be used against the darkworker.

Law 21: "Play a sucker to catch a sucker - seem dumber than your mark" That would actally seem to give a darkworker less power of intimidation in the long run.

Law 26: "Keep your hands clean" ("...using others as scapegoats and cat's-paws...")

Publicly rising above a public faliure seems it would grant more respect, and without creating more bitter enemies.


Though I do agree that some of the laws are good, it also seems that some of the book's major points are wrong.

[Akashic_Librarian]

I think most of the Laws are fairly accurate, or can be when tweaked a little. Some are downright scary and others don't make much sense but overall I think I might invest in it

[YouseffTheSheep]

In order to clear up the whole Darkworker Stigma, I have one question for you:

"Can you focus on YOURSELF, can you make YOURSELF better, without focusing on manipulating and hurting other people?"

The answer: Yes.

Just because you are a "Darkworker", it doesn't mean you are going to be jumping at every chance to try and screw someone over :-P, infact, you don't have to take any chance to screw someone over. It's a totally self-devoted path, which means you are completely focused on benefiting yourself... Not focused on destroying or causing trouble for other people.

[Kingston]

Originally Posted by Shindra

I looked at the first pages of it on Amazon, wherein the laws are summarized. Doesn't the book display darkworker syndrome?

The biggest virtue of the book is that it promotes the dark as a good option. It wants you to understand the game-like nature of social relations. It wants you to be tough with the world, like you are tough with your friends in a game of chess (or football, or karate).

It is not perfect, but when I first read it I understood where most of my problems came from. I think at the time, 6 years ago, it raised me to the level of willingness by conquering my fear of being judged.

I recommend it with 4 stars.

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by starlet

I an wondering about something - I have decided to go down the darkworker path. My goals are things I want, to benefit me. But once these goals have manifested, these goals will help many others, both directly and indirectly. Its for my greatest good, but can easily turn into the greates good for a large amount of others. Does that mess with polarity? I am just a little confused.

Thanks much!

This is the kind of view I've come to try to fit polarity to. That one can start with a darkworker path that adds lightworker modes once one has enough to give. It's more of a growth thing, in my mind, not mixing polarities. The good darkworking motivation feelings get things going and then eventually the lightworker motivations show up and are added as an expansion of how one is motivated.

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by YouseffTheSheep

In order to clear up the whole Darkworker Stigma, I have one question for you:

"Can you focus on YOURSELF, can you make YOURSELF better, without focusing on manipulating and hurting other people?"

The answer: Yes.

Just because you are a "Darkworker", it doesn't mean you are going to be jumping at every chance to try and screw someone over :-P, infact, you don't have to take any chance to screw someone over. It's a totally self-devoted path, which means you are completely focused on benefiting yourself... Not focused on destroying or causing trouble for other people.

Different answer: no. If one is not paying attention to others there will be unexpected and possibly bad results that others will suffer. And the darkworker will not be effected since he/she is not concerned by definition of being devoted to serving self. I agree a healthy darkworker is not out to get anyone - but being self devoted, completely focused on one's self is going to have side effects for the outside world. That's EXACTLY what is happening on the tribal/national/global scale with wars!!!!! OK, tell me it's just darkworkering not being healthy. But I say look at what is motivating wars. Wars are motivated by countries having self interest and not carring much about the other countries.

Something is rather disturbing about darkworker approach to life - it breeds stuff like suffering and competition and pain. I hope I just have the definition of darkworker wrong - because it would be scary to think Steve is telling people it's an equal path to being carring and seeing the whole word as one.

[starlet]

Originally Posted by shant121

No. It does not mess with polarity.
Do you want to accomplish the goals because they will "easily turn into the greatest good for a large amount of others" or you don't care, its just a side effect?

I care that it does, but its a much much distant second on my list, after taking care of me first

[impaul99]

Originally Posted by wolfgang

Different answer: no. If one is not paying attention to others there will be unexpected and possibly bad results that others will suffer. And the darkworker will not be effected since he/she is not concerned by definition of being devoted to serving self. I agree a healthy darkworker is not out to get anyone - but being self devoted, completely focused on one's self is going to have side effects for the outside world. That's EXACTLY what is happening on the tribal/national/global scale with wars!!!!! OK, tell me it's just darkworkering not being healthy. But I say look at what is motivating wars. Wars are motivated by countries having self interest and not carring much about the other countries.

Something is rather disturbing about darkworker approach to life - it breeds stuff like suffering and competition and pain. I hope I just have the definition of darkworker wrong - because it would be scary to think Steve is telling people it's an equal path to being carring and seeing the whole word as one.

No, I think wars are caused by misguided darkworkers (SELFWorkers I like to call them), who are using FEAR energy instead of LOVE energy.

You can just as easily say that WARS are caused by nations who try to "fix the world" when in fact it is their own nation that needs fixing. Misguided lightworkers (WORLDWorker I like to call them) who think the world needs fixing but haven't look in the mirror lately to see just how screwed up they are themselves.

[Michael Chui]

Originally Posted by impaul99

No, I think wars are caused by misguided darkworkers (SELFWorkers I like to call them), who are using FEAR energy instead of LOVE energy.

They aren't darkworkers if they're using love energy as defined by Steve Pavlina. If you're talking about a different kind of love energy, then... *shrugs*

But I agree with the rest. Lightworkers are just as capable of causing wars and creating suffering as darkworkers. Caring is not an antidote for incompetence.

[Shindra]

Originally Posted by Kingston

The biggest virtue of the book is that it promotes the dark as a good option. It wants you to understand the game-like nature of social relations. It wants you to be tough with the world, like you are tough with your friends in a game of chess (or football, or karate).

It is not perfect, but when I first read it I understood where most of my problems came from. I think at the time, 6 years ago, it raised me to the level of willingness by conquering my fear of being judged.

I recommend it with 4 stars.

Ah. I did see that both agreements and disagreements with the book would help me develop my thoughts, but I was confused at what seemed so direct, unrestricted recommendations of it. So, it *is* a comtemplate rather than absorb book. Thanks

Originally Posted by wolfgang

This is the kind of view I've come to try to fit polarity to. That one can start with a darkworker path that adds lightworker modes once one has enough to give. It's more of a growth thing, in my mind, not mixing polarities. The good darkworking motivation feelings get things going and then eventually the lightworker motivations show up and are added as an expansion of how one is motivated.

You've probably got it right, but I'd like to clarify for all (some people are having many problems understanding this, so the clearer the better) : Motivation doesn't mean *what* you do, what you are motivated to do, it's about *why*. So there's no adding 'lightworker motivations', there's adding deeds that lower levels see as lightworking. Just as higher-level lightworkers add deeds to their schedule that lower levels (syndrome) see as dark (egoistical) (giving up all worldly posessions=not having a computer to blog on...).

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by Shindra

Motivation doesn't mean *what* you do, what you are motivated to do, it's about *why*. So there's no adding 'lightworker motivations', there's adding deeds that lower levels see as lightworking. Just as higher-level lightworkers add deeds to their schedule that lower levels (syndrome) see as dark (egoistical) (giving up all worldly posessions=not having a computer to blog on...).

Yes, I am trying to view the motivations only since that is where this polarity idea is supposed to fit. I do think a selfworker's motivation is also part of the lightworker's motivation. - of some kind. Maybe the selfworker's motivation is not the same once the lightworker's motivation shows up, but there is still something that is motivating the lightworker to mantain self - or it turns into the syndrome. Now, I suppposed it's not enough to say motivation but have to color the motivation with the polarity, ha? A selfworker's motivation is of some gaining for self type thing and the lightworker's motivation is of giving to world - it seems.

arghhh... maybe I should just read Buddhist stuff instead... to think there's something to polarity but not find a way to fit it to myself is frustrating and has caused more doubt and worry than is useful, actually. For Steve to hook me in saying - better watch out or you won't be happy if you don't get it - is nuts. Why am I so interested in this idea? Am I trying to get ahead thinking, once I get it my life will be extra super amazing? Or that there's no way to say it since it's beyond words - usually I can get things that are beyond words. That mixing polarities produces difficulties to growth but meanwhile to understand how to be polarized is undescribable.

[impaul99]

Originally Posted by Michael Chui

They aren't darkworkers if they're using love energy as defined by Steve Pavlina. If you're talking about a different kind of love energy, then... *shrugs*

See my thread: Better definition and rename of Lightworker/Darkworker is in order for my definition of Lightworker/Darkworker, which I prefer to call SELFWorker and WORLDWorker to get rid of the negative connetation of DARKWorker.

At the same time I also disagree that DARKWorkers don't use love as you're suggesting above. I think Steve was misunderstood or took a wrong turn if he said that. BOTH sides (Dark/LIght) can act out of FEAR and LOVE.

See my definition for more details.

[tparikka]

Originally Posted by John P

I have definitely not polarized yet. In my imagination I can see myself going either way. Deep down I sense an attraction to light work. I feel that I will be most fulfilled in my life by devoting myself to serving others. But in a more immediate sense dark work seems more attractive to accomplish my goals. Is this confusion something that will resolve as I experiment more with polarization?

I'm at the same point right now, and I'm not sure which side I will go on. I am leaning towards becoming a darkworker - I decided that I want to advance myself, and I want to become more powerful - and I'm going to bring my friends and family with me, which will make me more powerful many times over. I'll try it out, and if I don't like it, I can always change my mind.

30 Day Trial comes to mind...

[Shindra]

Originally Posted by wolfgang

Now, I suppposed it's not enough to say motivation but have to color the motivation with the polarity, ha? A selfworker's motivation is of some gaining for self type thing and the lightworker's motivation is of giving to world - it seems.

Yep. but when I (and most, I think) speak of motivation, we speak of that 'polarization coloring' itself. Motivation is not something else. The 'uncolored' is an action, a deed, an empty goal (such as getting money - that can be for improving power or service, money is an empty concept in itself.)

Originally Posted by wolfgang

arghhh... maybe I should just read Buddhist stuff instead... to think there's something to polarity but not find a way to fit it to myself is frustrating and has caused more doubt and worry than is useful, actually. For Steve to hook me in saying - better watch out or you won't be happy if you don't get it - is nuts. Why am I so interested in this idea? Am I trying to get ahead thinking, once I get it my life will be extra super amazing? Or that there's no way to say it since it's beyond words - usually I can get things that are beyond words. That mixing polarities produces difficulties to growth but meanwhile to understand how to be polarized is undescribable.

I think you've just gotten too caught up in the smaller words, and in trying to reconcile the two sides. Maybe try feeling some extremes, something syndrome-like, to get a basic, lower-level, beginner's grasp on it - sadistic glee and people in deep submission to you, greed at hoarding a big fortune. Or be all humble and service and doing everything to give to others. Do these in your imagination, mind you, not in action once you've grasped the basic feeling, you can begin to see the higher levels of it, and imagine how it acts in higher levels of consciousness, when it's very clear and aware and wise.
I hope you'll read my response to you in the other thread: For Love of Evil (Blog)
When you're motivated about something, look within to see where that motivation comes from.
When you look at others to try and see where they are coming from, look to how you think they are feeling. I find this fairly easy to do with movies - those that deal with bigger/broader themes than interhuman relationships. And not comedies/humor. Try not to over-intellectualize, that's where the pain lies, I've found. Use emotional knowledge, and try to look to the personal words spoken to discover somebody's motivation, and don't try to put them into a polarization box in just one or two scenes. Also realize that people in movies typically jump back and forth between polarizations, don't stick one person to one polarization through it all. But they usually have one major one they rely most on, too.

Oh, and once you've polarized, your life will be extra super amazing but you can lead a joyous life without it. There just might be limits to both it's level of bliss and speed in raising your consciousness.
When you feel really great and motivated - that's one polarity or the other.

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by Shindra

Yep. but when I (and most, I think) speak of motivation, we speak of that 'polarization coloring' itself. Motivation is not something else. The 'uncolored' is an action, a deed, an empty goal (such as getting money - that can be for improving power or service, money is an empty concept in itself.)

What exaclty is the question to pose to motivation that clarifies what the polarity colour is?
Am I wanting to do this for the good of all or for the good of me?

I think you've just gotten too caught up in the smaller words, and in trying to reconcile the two sides. Maybe try feeling some extremes, something syndrome-like, to get a basic, lower-level, beginner's grasp on it - sadistic glee and people in deep submission to you, greed at hoarding a big fortune. Or be all humble and service and doing everything to give to others.

Yeah - some sort of way to try it on would be helpful to my understanding - thing is I still am stuck trying to undersand it.

What if I imagine preparing dinner as a darkworker? I'd probably create something that I specifically like and everyone else would be having to take whatever I created but hopefully some would also like what I created. How come that doesn't sound like a good thing to do. I'd be motivated to create something that I like to eat and not really be considering others I may be feeding - or not even create any for others. Or if I'm a more conscious darkworker I'd provide for them, but why if I'm supposedly polarized to feed myself as I wish for myself?

Likewise, if I prepare dinner as a lightworker: I would consider everyone else's desire, what they like to eat and is good for them create that and probably almost forget to put extra red onion in my salad - but I wouldn't forget that because in my model of a lightworker I would already know how to please myself and would still be doing that if I'm motivated to serve others.

I wonder how everyone else, who gets this polarized stuff, would describe the two side of being motivated to prepare a dinner.

Oh, and once you've polarized, your life will be extra super amazing but you can lead a joyous life without it. There just might be limits to both it's level of bliss and speed in raising your consciousness.

Have you actually felt this polarized thing or are you just thinking you got it and can explain it?

When you feel really great and motivated - that's one polarity or the other.

So, in your mind, the most effecient way to feel really great and motivated is to colour that motivation with service to only yourself or to service of others? Or states of motivated are going to be more powerfull only if they have feelings of giving and service to others or only feelings of service to only self? And feelings of service to others with feelings of service to self make the motivation less powerful?

[BobbiDrake]

...but I have to say something.

I was really upset after I read this article, and had arguments for several points made. The one section that stood out was the paragraph about people who aim for balance in their lives. I 100% disagreed and believe that balance is incredibly important in one's life, especially considering how "unhealthy" selfishness to the exclusion of all else is, and vice versa. So I went to the posts to see if I can get some clarity...

I think the biggest issue is that many of us (myself included) are getting WAY too hung up on the labels here. Someone on the posts (I don't remember who) made the astute point that the concept of polarity was originally introduced in relation to the LoA. The terms lightworker/darkworker are used to boil an abstract concept into a simple term -- and I think the abstract concept is getting lost. The way I think about it is like this: if someone were to ask want you wanted out of "this life," how would you respond? If your answer is self-centered (in some way life ultimately comes back to you -- even to say "All I want is to be happy" or "I want to know that I made a difference"), you're leaning toward darkworker-tendencies. If your answer is universe-centered ("I want to leave this world in a better place than it is today"), you're leaning toward the light. If you're the darkworker, this life is about you -- making sure you get what you want and/or need. This is where fear comes into play, because your mind knows that you are the only thing you can control in life; everything else is external and out of reach. The lightworker looks at the world differently -- "me" is just part of the bigger picture. For lightworkers, life is a web of relationships. There's less fear because you know that life is self-sustaining; putting out energy means that there's more avaliable to sustain this life (including yours) and to create more positive energy.

I think most of us stand on the dark-side looking toward the light-side. The dark-tendencies are a product of our Western culture, a culture that ironically idolizes the light side (really think about "The American Dream" -- the new TV show The Riches pokes fun at the idea). Don't like the way you answered? Start changing your perception of reality, as Steve talks about in his post about "dark love". But ultimately, if you polarize (ie, you embrace whatever direction you face) you're likely to get the best results out of "this life." You see the world clearly, which ever end of the binoculars you look through.

What's interesting from these 2 perspectives is that universal truths like "Life is what you make of it" take on different meanings in the different contexts of reality. I believe that the arguments and frustrations that I'm seeing in the forum stem from the fact that some of us are just worried about figuring out which one we are and whether or not that's a good thing. And I believe my original distaste for the article came from the fact that I was sensing judgement on the part of Mr. Pavlina about polarization vs. non-polarization. Our light/dark leanings are what they are, and Steve's article is what it is.

The question now is: What are we going to do about it?

[grazia]

This is my first post here.

sorry, i haven't read the course of this thread.

i am a student of Dr. Hawkins' teachings. he talks of the downside of levels of consciousness. each one has one.
other than that he differentiates integrous (above loc 200) vs. non-integrous (below loc 200).

acc to Hawkins the attitude / deeds of 2.6% of world's population (the evil people) with an extreme low loc are responsible of 72% of the negativity of the whole mankind. (In 1996 the ratio was: 2.4% produce 78% the world's negativity. see: »Synopsis and Study Guide to Power vs. Force«, Interview with Dr. Hawkins of Otis and Teddy Carney, June 8th, 1996, part II, p. 13)

loc 850 is the level where one meets Lucifer, quite an impressive darkworker. he used to be loc 50.000+ and fell to loc 190. still, one will not meet the temptation about power above everything/one before that.

it's also the level of the void.
when Hawkins' was a monk of the hinayana buddhism in a past life, he was into (darkworking?) enlightenment for oneself (leave the rest/the others on themselves), the highest idea was to hang out in the (loveless) void. that the ceiling of the hinayana buddhism was the void.
it took him 50 years after his awakening as a three year old to find out there is ONLY one variable: EXISTENCE. that there is no non-existence (however the levels below 200).

REAL EXISTENCE in divine love is actually only above loc 850 after having passed the void, the loveless status and Lucifer's temptations. those who have passed this gap usher one in. however 85% turn back at this rare stage of earthlings to reach.
SpiritualWiki - Tables

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Prof. Higa, an agrarian scientist in Japan, has inspired Dr. Emoto to refer to his findings. Higa, who helped to restore the sour soil of thailand back to health, with his EM method.

Higa found that a handfull of soil contains
10% effective microorganisms (EMs - loc 1?)
80% opportunistic microorganisms (non-effective mos - loc 1)
10% destructive microorganisms (DMs - loc 1?)

Steve, your idea is:
1% lightworkers - effective people
98% "halfassed" people
1% darkworkers - effective? people

Hawkins AK test result is:
4.4% effective people above loc 500
91% people learning to love (abt 20%) / unable to love (abt 80%)
2.6% extremely destructive people

sociologists findings abt human societies are:
5% positively influential people
90% bystanders, mostly followers (acc propaganda)
5% negatively influential people (white collar crooks)

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illusionary non-existence is shared by 78% of world's pop. (destructive)
illusionary existence is shared by 22% of world's pop. (productive)
real existence is/was experienced by very very few humans on earth.

the medicine wheel of the native americans teaches the council lodge (one of 9) which is to say YES to what is. this coincides with hawkins findings: there is only one variable: existence (the positive).

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one last thing: in view of the above i do not get the "positiveness" of the darkworker. he might appear to be representing locs up to 850 ... whereas he is around loc 190 or lower.

best regards
grazia

[Shindra]

Originally Posted by wolfgang

What exaclty is the question to pose to motivation that clarifies what the polarity colour is?
Am I wanting to do this for the good of all or for the good of me?

Yep, that seems like good questions. There's also, am I specifically doing this for somebody else in a loving manner (it doesn't have to be the whole world at once all the time) or for myself in an egoistical manner.

Originally Posted by wolfgang

What if I imagine preparing dinner as a darkworker? I'd probably create something that I specifically like and everyone else would be having to take whatever I created but hopefully some would also like what I created. How come that doesn't sound like a good thing to do. I'd be motivated to create something that I like to eat and not really be considering others I may be feeding - or not even create any for others. Or if I'm a more conscious darkworker I'd provide for them, but why if I'm supposedly polarized to feed myself as I wish for myself?

Likewise, if I prepare dinner as a lightworker: I would consider everyone else's desire, what they like to eat and is good for them create that and probably almost forget to put extra red onion in my salad - but I wouldn't forget that because in my model of a lightworker I would already know how to please myself and would still be doing that if I'm motivated to serve others.

Beyond pleasing yourself, when you prepare something for yourself, try feeling love for your self, for your body. And gratitude. Think table-prayer, the gratitude for food, but maybe without the religious connotations. Just that feeling of gratitude, and love and compassion towards yourself, that is love-polarization too. Think of it as giving to your self, your person, your ego while you, not only the experiencer but the supplier of the feeling, is something beyond/above your ego. Find love in you for your self. Be lovingly caring about yourself and others. A more humble feeling, where the fear-polarized would have an arrogant feeling of self-importance.

The reason your dark example doesn't sound very good is because it's not very polarized and not very conscious. On the dark side... Think first completely about what you want to eat. You, you, you, nobody else. Then think about the others you would be feeding. What are they providing you with? What would be the negative consequences for you if you didn't provide for them? Then see what you can do to fulfill those two wants the best. Choose a meal that is tasty and good for you, and that they would approve of too, because they are a source of support, status and power. You might make making dinner feel like taking control of the situation, even the simple act of organizing ingredients. Think strongly of what you will gain at the end of it - good food and support. There is not much difference in work between creating a meal for one person and a meal for several, while the latter provides you with more as it also gives you *people*.
Creating dinner for a family is, I think, a very difficult thing to darkworker polarize, because families are not usually great sources of power. Hmm... think of a very influential family. Make them royal, or the children heirs to a business empire. Think of how they could contribute to your greatness if the spouse/partner was highly conscious, and if you raised the children to be highly conscious and contribute to your empire. There's something. Big goals. Then it would be very motivating to keep them in good health, both body and spirit.

Originally Posted by wolfgang

Have you actually felt this polarized thing or are you just thinking you got it and can explain it?

I haven't chosen a polarization, but I have tried getting close using my imagination or doing transcendence emotional exercises to put myself in the state close to one pure polarization, and living with the feelings of being mainly motivated by one for a few days (1-3) at a time, then switching to the other and trying that. Not doing anything differently, other than what I read mostly, just thinking of my own importance or raising the emotions of love in myself, and thinking of big goals within that mindset. I feel absolutely great when I do this - that is personal experience. I can see glorious futures before me. I've become decent at jumping from one to the other without falling down the middle, but I can still see than when I'm in one polarization, the other polarization, which I haven't let go of until I'm polarized, is holding me back. And sometimes when I'm not focused, I muddle up the feelings and feel bad.

Originally Posted by wolfgang

So, in your mind, the most effecient way to feel really great and motivated is to colour that motivation with service to only yourself or to service of others? Or states of motivated are going to be more powerfull only if they have feelings of giving and service to others or only feelings of service to only self? And feelings of service to others with feelings of service to self make the motivation less powerful?

Yes, in my mind and, I'd say, in my experience. I make it about the feelings of love or the feelings of power/importance. I work very much on an emotional level with this, as is obvious by now, because it simply wasn't as easy to get for me with thoughts formed with words, and not as easy to maintain with images and fantasies when I was not actively fantasizing.
Guilt is an example of mixing - you do not see everything as perfect and good, you do not accept everything, nor do you believe in your own greatness. You care about others, but haven't subscribed completely to love. You feel fear, without letting yourself move up the scale of fear to anger, willingness, self-respect and so on.

[ethereal]

Thank you, grazia, thank you so much That cleared up sooooooo many questions I've had regarding how to reconcile the two paradigms, Hawkins and Polarity. I'm also a student of Dr. Hawkins and I was really trying to figure it out, since this site is full of very high LOC people (Courage to Unconditional Love), and a mistaken or incomplete ideology can wreck absolute havoc when channeled through this select group of influential people.

Coincidentally this was what I intuitively perceived while typing up another post:

"I'm still not sure if I fully buy the polarity concept -- IMO, and this is based on my own personal experiences, darkworker represents the levels of consciousness from Fear/Desire on up to Reason, which is where darkworking really dominates over lightworking as a viable source of intentions and motivation. But beyond that seems to be complete lightworker territory, which is where love dominates over everything else. I don't think Steve's concept of darkworkers' self-love and respect cuts it, either I don't see it as a polarity as much as say, stages in consciousness.

I can see how it may seem like a polarity, since LOC is logarithmic (not specifically denoting power in terms of quantity, but also quality), and so 500-600 can seem just as wide as 100-499, and I think most of the conscious darkworkers are around 400+ and have just as much visible success as lightworkers in the 500s, which makes it seem like if you're darkworking you can keep raising your consciousness and stay a darkworker. However, this doesn't seem to bear out in reality, which explains why there aren't any enlightened darkworkers, or even the darkworking equivalent of unconditional love, which is unconditional self-acceptance."

Of course, there are lots of holes in my explanation and I didn't mean it to be anything concrete -- there are lightworkers with LOC below 500, for one -- but the main idea is there. The duality of lightworker and darkworker isn't resolved by the fact that both lead to the same place, but by the fact that they are gradations / levels of only one Love. Or as grazia said, every LOC has its upside and downside.

I would also like to add that as human beings we can only perceive the physical plane, or if more evolved, the astral/celestial planes, but that is our limitation. A darkworker and lightworker can appear to have the same outward manifestations, but the ramifications in formless consciousness can be drastically different. I recognize the mind's limitation in discerning truth from falsehood, which is why I rely heavily on Dr. Hawkins' work and calibrations to guide me, as the answers spring forth from the collective consciousness / Akashic Records / Matrix / Reality and not on human conceptualizations of physical form.

Calibrations on Hitler, Castro, Lenin, Arafat, Napoleon Bonaparte, etc. show that they started out with noble intentions and LOC of ~450, then dropped all they way down to below 200. You could make the argument that this drop was due to their darkworker "polarization". Hey, Hitler nearly succeeded with his power-grab -- I think he is the ultimate darkworker in recent times. We can't say that he was being a low-level "halfassed" darkworker, either. All this stems from the fact that they were at the level of Reason and the mind cannot tell truth from falsehood. Likewise, the polarity concept also makes sense at the level of mind, but I am not sure if it can stand up to spiritual scrutiny.

Would love additional discussion on this, I think it is critically important to fully understand all of it, in all of its ramifications, before people start "polarizing" one way or another. I especially wish to hear Steve's comments and how he addresses these points.

[wolfgang]

Interesting take on dark/light (probably a different definition than Steve's but some of it seems to fit too). That part that may fit is that a darkworker is more aligned with what the self wants and tend to follow motivations that are self orienting and disconnected. I'm sure people will say, but no - darkworkers aren't this at all, they can also become enlightened. In which case I partially agree that this web page I found is more about levels of consciousness that dark/light motivations. But that Steve has tried to convey something he knows and feels using light/dark has made it confusing since the light/dark ideas are normally for levels of consciousness.
http://planetaryascension.net/Planetary_ascension/lightworkers_and_darkworkers.htm

Once we make this key distinction between lightworkers, who are enlightened, and darkworkers, who are unenlightened, it then becomes clear that those who have chosen the negative path of the darkworker inevitably become dysfunctional for the simple reason that their outer minds are not aligned to their inner being. As a consequence, their logical thoughts are not guided by their intuitive feelings but are guided instead by the irrational motivations of their subconscious shadows, thereby giving expression to all of the negative desires and thoughts within their personalities which they have first repressed and then projected onto others.

Hence, to use a simple analogy, darkworkers are like blind men who have lost their way in this polarized world of labyrinthic illusion. As a result, they gradually lose their sense of humor and may eventually lose their sanity as well. Having unwittingly dehumanized themselves by their choice to unplug their thinking minds from their feeling hearts, they are quite capable of behaving like mechanical robots that have gone berserk. And, paradoxically, they do everything in their power to prevent themselves from receiving the very thing that they are most in need of, which is compassion.