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The last couple of articles have really cleared up the disctinction between lightworker and darkworker, and it has really brought up a great internal conflict within me since I truly haven't polarized. I can sense and understand the magnitude of the decision, and how mixing both polarities causes a lot of inconsistency within life. For example, I want to love and assist others, but I crave the power with increased authority. I appreciate how Steve is able to put this into words; I am having a hard time doing it right now. Perhaps a little introspection will help me later so I can assist others with it. What I would like to ask Steve is for two new articles:
I can see myself being a lightworker without too many problems; it's the pull of the darkworker from the past that's keeping me undecided. If people are interested, PM me and I'll discuss it further. |
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Both light- and darkworkers give and recieve. It's the main intention and motivation that makes them light or dark. Lightworkers give love to themselves too. Try feeling compassion and caring for yourself. Very conscious lightworkers knows they have to take good care of themselves in order to take care of others. Be in good health, have enough money to increase their service - for example buy a computer to communicate. They recieve with gratitude, and to expand their ability for giving. This is all with the motivation of serving the greatest good for all. Darkworkers make sure others get too. They 'care for others' with a different motivation, a different emotion - others are important in their plan. Try putting yourself in the mindset of a darkworker with feelings of greed and dominance, and then see the importance of others. Darkworkers would care for the environment, because they live in it. Darkworkers would make sure their business partners are doing well. Darkworkers give to get. This is all with the motivation of increasing their power. That is not 'lightworker stuff'. Things that are done are not inherently light or dark. Hope that helps. |
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| I find the Polarization articles very interesting. I've thought of using the force since 12th grade 3 years ago. I'm confused about how to be just one sided though. We all have a dark side and a light side. Honestly I've given up much of my hope in life. I just turned 21 but feel I lost my soul by conforming to the standard of attending college. This is my second semester failing.I took the easy route and now am afraid of change. I want things to go back to how they were as a teenager. Before I graduated highschool I had all these brillant idea's about sailing around the world or joining a taoist monastery and then moving onward. Instead I feel I've lost touch with my intuition, with that hero I believed I could be. After I read your articles today I was motivated to get an ipod and start multi-tasking. The doctor's put me on wellbutrin and lexapro, but this goes against my ideals. I stopped the lexapro today, and this is my fourth day on wellbutrin. I think I am maybe just to big a dreamer and feel I can never live up to my high expectations. So I abandoned my journey for the time... How can I really have a truly meaningful life? It's all so complex, there has to be more than this physical depressing world. I feel I've got problems keeping me 'stuck' , How can I believe in this beautifully mysterious life again? In myself again? I thought I'd be stronger by now , not weaker... I used to be a truly spiritual guy , reading energy, meditating, always experimenting and trying new things, questioning all of the established thoughts, I feel I've become what i hated, a boring weak ignorant adult... Love - Sean |
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| Hi Sean, I am also 21 and trying to sort everything out. If it makes you feel any better, I promise you are not a boring weak ignorant adult. Just the fact that you are posting here and having these thoughts means you are way above average. Stick with it and keep trying to figure out your life! I mean, unless we kill ourselves, we've got nothing better to do, right? |
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| Part of what it means to be a teenager is to be uncertain and to explore; it's the flipside of maturity which brings with it certainty and experience. As someone who's graduating in three months, I can say there's incredible amounts to explore in college, if you go looking for it. Reminds me of the song in Avenue Q called "I wish I could go back to college", except in your case, it's high school.
__________________ "I read, I interpret, I think, I criticize, I oppose, I listen, I write, I question, I reply, I quote, I tell, I name, I discuss, I interpolate..., I learn, I teach, I live, therefore I am." -- Marc-Alain Ouaknin, "Mysteries of the Kabbalah", p383. Favorite Essays I Wrote: love, identity & growth, economics, education, equality, definitions. Recent Books I liked: Anansi Boys, Fly By Night, Hyperion. |
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| This has been a fascinating series of posts! Earlier today I found a collection of essays by Ayn Rand called The Virtue of Selfishness (amazon.com). She advocates rational selfishness (darkworking). It could be an interesting book for someone who wants to learn more about this. I know Steve has read Ayn Rand before - perhaps that's influenced some of these ideas. |
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| I was under the impression that Steve did not come up with the term or the concept.
__________________ "I read, I interpret, I think, I criticize, I oppose, I listen, I write, I question, I reply, I quote, I tell, I name, I discuss, I interpolate..., I learn, I teach, I live, therefore I am." -- Marc-Alain Ouaknin, "Mysteries of the Kabbalah", p383. Favorite Essays I Wrote: love, identity & growth, economics, education, equality, definitions. Recent Books I liked: Anansi Boys, Fly By Night, Hyperion. |
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| I an wondering about something - I have decided to go down the darkworker path. My goals are things I want, to benefit me. But once these goals have manifested, these goals will help many others, both directly and indirectly. Its for my greatest good, but can easily turn into the greates good for a large amount of others. Does that mess with polarity? I am just a little confused. Thanks much! |
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Do you want to accomplish the goals because they will "easily turn into the greatest good for a large amount of others" or you don't care, its just a side effect? There is a whole lot of debating in other threads over whether Bill Gates is a lightworker or a dark. For this example, I am assuming he is dark. He may have built up Microsoft for his personal motives of power, money etc etc. But look at the result: Windows is by far, by leaps and bounds, the most widely used operating system, ditto for MS Office. they are standardized and even though there may bugs, MS had made life easier for all of us and given great momentum to the computer revolution. |
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For example, law 17: "Keep others in suspended terror: cultivate an air of unpredictability." That keeping people down in terror. The book also seems to play up direct dishonesty. That goes against that a polarized darkworker is easier to trust. People know where they have them, and are thus more likely to make deals with them. If dark lies, unexpected secrets are kept, hidden and unclaimed by the darkworker, they can be used against the darkworker. Law 21: "Play a sucker to catch a sucker - seem dumber than your mark" That would actally seem to give a darkworker less power of intimidation in the long run. Law 26: "Keep your hands clean" ("...using others as scapegoats and cat's-paws...") Publicly rising above a public faliure seems it would grant more respect, and without creating more bitter enemies. Though I do agree that some of the laws are good, it also seems that some of the book's major points are wrong. Last edited by Shindra : 03-26-2007 at 11:30 AM. |
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| I think most of the Laws are fairly accurate, or can be when tweaked a little. Some are downright scary and others don't make much sense but overall I think I might invest in it
__________________ I dare do all that may become a man; Who dares do more is none. - MACBETH |
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| In order to clear up the whole Darkworker Stigma, I have one question for you: "Can you focus on YOURSELF, can you make YOURSELF better, without focusing on manipulating and hurting other people?" The answer: Yes. Just because you are a "Darkworker", it doesn't mean you are going to be jumping at every chance to try and screw someone over :-P, infact, you don't have to take any chance to screw someone over. It's a totally self-devoted path, which means you are completely focused on benefiting yourself... Not focused on destroying or causing trouble for other people.
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It is not perfect, but when I first read it I understood where most of my problems came from. I think at the time, 6 years ago, it raised me to the level of willingness by conquering my fear of being judged. I recommend it with 4 stars. Last edited by Kingston : 03-26-2007 at 03:38 PM. Reason: Spelling |
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Something is rather disturbing about darkworker approach to life - it breeds stuff like suffering and competition and pain. I hope I just have the definition of darkworker wrong - because it would be scary to think Steve is telling people it's an equal path to being carring and seeing the whole word as one. |
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You can just as easily say that WARS are caused by nations who try to "fix the world" when in fact it is their own nation that needs fixing. Misguided lightworkers (WORLDWorker I like to call them) who think the world needs fixing but haven't look in the mirror lately to see just how screwed up they are themselves. |
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But I agree with the rest. Lightworkers are just as capable of causing wars and creating suffering as darkworkers. Caring is not an antidote for incompetence.
__________________ "I read, I interpret, I think, I criticize, I oppose, I listen, I write, I question, I reply, I quote, I tell, I name, I discuss, I interpolate..., I learn, I teach, I live, therefore I am." -- Marc-Alain Ouaknin, "Mysteries of the Kabbalah", p383. Favorite Essays I Wrote: love, identity & growth, economics, education, equality, definitions. Recent Books I liked: Anansi Boys, Fly By Night, Hyperion. |
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