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Lifeisamazing · 10-02-2010, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by stewartM

Disgusting, it's entirely normal.

Stewart, before we continue to discuss this, I want to clear this up by saying that I'm not against gay people. I have no issues with socializing with them (however I've come across only one person who has admitted it).

Angela · 10-02-2010, 05:04 PM

I understand now -- homosexuality is like christianity.

Something goes wrong -- you've got some emotional, biological, or parental imbalance, and it results in this wrong, immoral condition. I mean, I realize that some people feel it's relative, but I have to believe in something, and christianity is absolutely morally wrong. I love christians, but it would be good for them to be ashamed, and even depression is good for christians, because it helps them to make corrections and be repentant for the damage they do to themselves and to others by being christian. It's unnatural. Nobody is born christian. It only happens when something goes wrong.

Christianity is like wanting to have sex with children (actually, having sex with children is part of being christian -- it's something that the leaders of christianity do, and of course, you want to emulate your leaders). It's like when a child hits another child -- very much like that, in fact; many, many people have been *hit* because of christianity! It's like alcoholism, too -- the christian believes and insists everything is under control, while everyone around her can see the desperation and unhappiness.

Fortunately, there are loving, caring people around who would be delighted to help heal you from your christianity problem. The Taliban springs to mind. They're very effective at helping people to get over their christian problem.

Listen, I don't judge you for being christian -- I love you. It's just your immoral beliefs I think are wrong and bad. It's for your own good that think it would be good to fix them.

Lifeisamazing · 10-02-2010, 05:11 PM

Who's Christian?

SethWilliams · 10-02-2010, 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Lifeisamazing

A blind person may not put others at risk either but that doesn't mean it's normal, does it?

If all men in the world became gay, we would naturally seize to exist. Would it put anyone in danger? How about the whole species?

IF all the men in the world were gay? Like what?

ITs not a virus, i cant turn you if i touch you.

That would never happen. And even if it, i think the civilization is at a point where we can still reproduce without actual sexual interaction between man and woman.

IF all the men in the world were straight, there would a significant population increase!!! Anyone think about that?

Angela · 10-02-2010, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Lifeisamazing

Who's Christian?

Are you in the closet?

I'm feeling my adonaidar!

ssandra · 10-02-2010, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Lifeisamazing

A blind person may not put others at risk either but that doesn't mean it's normal, does it?

If all men in the world became gay, we would naturally seize to exist. Would it put anyone in danger? How about the whole species?

If all the men became gay and all the women became lesbian, there would still be a need to procreate. There is nothing biologically stopping a gay man and a lesbian woman from having sex for making a baby. They just won't have much fun doing it...

What you are saying (if I'm understanding this right?) is that gay is not the way people are supposed to be. Like people are supposed to see, so blind people are not the way it is supposed to be. Right?

What I am curious about is how do you know and what are the reasons that you believe that homosexuality isn't the way it is supposed to be for part of the population?

Lifeisamazing · 10-02-2010, 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Angela

Are you in the closet?

I'm feeling my adonaidar!

I don't get it. Explain please!

Cochonette · 10-02-2010, 05:22 PM

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Like people are supposed to see, so blind people are not the way it is supposed to be. Right?

Blindness is a choice!

Angela · 10-02-2010, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Lifeisamazing

I don't get it. Explain please!

It's just that you're showing latent christian tendencies, so I naturally wondered.....

But I get it. You're not christian. You're NOT!

Lifeisamazing · 10-02-2010, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ssandra

If all the men became gay and all the women became lesbian, there would still be a need to procreate. There is nothing biologically stopping a gay man and a lesbian woman from having sex for making a baby. They just won't have much fun doing it...

What you are saying (if I'm understanding this right?) is that gay is not the way people are supposed to be. Like people are supposed to see, so blind people are not the way it is supposed to be. Right?

What I am curious about is how do you know and what are the reasons that you believe that homosexuality isn't the way it is supposed to be for part of the population?

You do fathom what I mean.

I actually must confess right now that I don't know how to reply to that question. I'll try to do it when I get more quiet time at work.

Lifeisamazing · 10-02-2010, 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Angela

It's just that you're showing latent christian tendencies, so I naturally wondered.....

But I get it. You're not christian. You're NOT!

And you immediately ask me if I'm staying in the closet?

I actually once believed in god (when I was a kid), that's the closest I've been to christianity.

Angela · 10-02-2010, 05:32 PM

Lifeisamazing, many people think that bodybuilding is unnatural and disgusting, and not at all the way people are supposed to be. There have actually been discussions about that here in the forums -- heated discussions in which people have gone on at length about how horrible bodybuilders are and how they should stop and just be normal.

How does that occur for you?

Lifeisamazing · 10-02-2010, 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Angela

Lifeisamazing, many people think that bodybuilding is unnatural and disgusting, and not at all the way people are supposed to be. There have actually been discussions about that here in the forums -- heated discussions in which people have gone on at length about how horrible bodybuilders are and how they should stop and just be normal.

How does that occur for you?

I feel the same way.

I mean, look at this guy:

Is this OK? Is this normal? 1) A dude who shows off his "beauty" on stage, 2) he wears a "make-up", 3) he's abnormally big and ugly.

stewartM · 10-02-2010, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Lifeisamazing

Stewart, before we continue to discuss this, I want to clear this up by saying that I'm not against gay people. I have no issues with socializing with them (however I've come across only one person who has admitted it).

But you have the idea that we're not 'normal', where did this idea come from?

Angela · 10-02-2010, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Lifeisamazing

I feel the same way.

Is this OK? Is this normal? 1) A dude who shows off his "beauty" on stage, 2) he wears a "make-up", 3) he's abnormally big and ugly.

But you look just like that, except for the make-up, to many people. To those people, YOU are not normal or natural, and to some, even disgusting! How does that leave you feeling?

Lauxa · 10-02-2010, 05:43 PM

My favorite theory about homosexuality is that it is a response to stress and overpopulation. So it keeps the human population from overwhelming the available resources by removing some from the breeding pool. If this is true, then there wouldn't be much need to worry about everyone going homo and thus causing species-wide extinction.

Cochonette · 10-02-2010, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Lauxa

My favorite theory about homosexuality is that it is a response to stress and overpopulation. So it keeps the human population from overwhelming the available resources by removing some from the breeding pool. If this is true, then there wouldn't be much need to worry about everyone going homo and thus causing species-wide extinction.

How does THAT work? Usually, when a species is overpopulated, the solution is to just stop having so many babies. I mean, lesbian coyotes can still get pregnant.

Lifeisamazing · 10-02-2010, 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Angela

But you look just like that, except for the make-up, to many people. To those people, YOU are not normal or natural, and to some, even disgusting! How does that leave you feeling?

Unique and different I guess. Which, by the way, I always thrive to be.

Being abnormal in my opinion is in no way bad. I'm definitely not normal. I'm pretty much the only person I know that doesn't drink alcohol, I'm pretty much the only person I personally know who thinks that university is not a necessity and there are billion other things I consistently disagree with others.

But I feel that being gay is sort of like a mental and physical disease (sorry if this sounds too harsh, I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings by no means). By the way, it's possibly extremely easy to change this belief if someone who has observed and studied gay people for decades comes to and explains me the science behind being gay and it's completely different than what I believe.

Mounds · 10-02-2010, 05:54 PM

Oh man, this thread is rich. Can we talk about big noses next? I have one and I'm quite convinced it's unnatural.
When were done discussing that, let's talk about the unnatural state of the exclamation mark (!) and why Cadburry only sells those Creme Eggs around Easter. Don't they realize they could make so much more money!?!
!!!! <-----I'm on to you....

Angela · 10-02-2010, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cochonette

lesbian coyotes can still get pregnant.

That's a very erotic mental picture!

Mounds · 10-02-2010, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Lifeisamazing

But I feel that being gay is sort of like a mental and physical disease (sorry if this sounds too harsh, I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings by no means). By the way, it's possibly extremely easy to change this belief if someone who has observed and studied gay people for decades comes to and explains me the science behind being gay and it's completely different than what I believe.

jdsffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

Damn it, I passed out after reading this, slept through two hours of work and almost lost my job.
A gay person is not a specimen to put under the microscope. Have you ever actually met one of these people?

Cochonette · 10-02-2010, 05:57 PM

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I feel that being gay is sort of like a mental and physical disease

I feel that having false opinions like this is sort of like a mental disease, personally.

ZephyrusX · 10-02-2010, 05:59 PM

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If all men in the world became gay, we would naturally seize to exist. Would it put anyone in danger? How about the whole species?

Sexuality can be better understood in terms of a continuum. There may be some people who exclusively stay with one sex, but there are others who don't. Meaning homosexuals can end up having children in a prior relationship and bring those children over into the current homosexual relationship. Also they can adopt. And also women can have a child through artifical insemination. And this may come as a shock to you, but the entire world isn't going to turn into homosexuals any time soon.

The 'human spieces' isn't in danger here.

As for the whole normalcy thing, a high IQ (genius level) is also non-normal and a deviant occurrence. But we are not discussing whether or not we ought to 'correct' genius IQ's. The act of deviance in it self, in other words, is not an issue here. There is something else going on.

Chris_1977 · 10-02-2010, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Lifeisamazing

Is this OK? Is this normal? 1) A dude who shows off his "beauty" on stage, 2) he wears a "make-up", 3) he's abnormally big and ugly.

I think the extreme body builder is ugly! I am not a big fan of morality and normality so I will have to pass on the question whether it is okay or normal.

You look very good and nicely trained, though, LifIsAmazing!

Cochonette · 10-02-2010, 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Angela

That's a very erotic mental picture!

lol, nice picture.

stewartM · 10-02-2010, 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mounds

Oh man, this thread is rich. Can we talk about big noses next? I have one and I'm quite convinced it's unnatural.
When were done discussing that, let's talk about the unnatural state of the exclamation mark (!) and why Cadburry only sells those Creme Eggs around Easter. Don't they realize they could make so much more money!?!
!!!! <-----I'm on to you....

Your nose and those of others that are so outrageously large offend me, i think it's a sign of your decadence and your inherent immorality...oh and the decline of the Western World...

Angela · 10-02-2010, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Lifeisamazing

Unique and different I guess. Which, by the way, I always thrive to be.

Being abnormal in my opinion is in no way bad. I'm definitely not normal. I'm pretty much the only person I know that doesn't drink alcohol, I'm pretty much the only person I personally know who thinks that university is not a necessity and there are billion other things I consistently disagree with others.

But I feel that being gay is sort of like a mental and physical disease (sorry if this sounds too harsh, I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings by no means). By the way, it's possibly extremely easy to change this belief if someone who has observed and studied gay people for decades comes to and explains me the science behind being gay and it's completely different than what I believe.

Knowing yourself to be abnormal, unique and different and in no way bad, what evaluation do you think you'd make about people who organize against you, because they believe you are diseased, wrong, and bad? What do you think you might think about people who advocate that it be illegal to be the way you are, shameful, that it's ok to tease you or even beat you up, torture, and kill you because you are the way you are? What would you think if those people were a majority -- and they called themselves a "moral majority"?

ZephyrusX · 10-02-2010, 06:10 PM

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But I feel that being gay is sort of like a mental and physical disease

A mental or physical disease implies that it reduces the person's quality of life. But homosexuality in it self doesn't do this. It is the way society and other people respond to homosexuals that reduces the quality of life (it at all - I'm quite good at ignoring hurtful comments my self). So, if any thing is 'diseased' here, I'd say it is your own perception and words.

stewartM · 10-02-2010, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ZephyrusX

So, if any thing is 'diseased' here, I'd say it is your own perception and words.

Couldn't agree more

Bliss Sage · 10-02-2010, 06:11 PM

The underlying core of this debate seems to be about whether or not being homosexual is a choice or not.

This implies that it would be wrong to choose to be a homosexual if it were a conscious choice. Is it wrong to choose homosexuality? If so, why? Why are all of the people here agreeing on this one point, that it is wrong to choose to be a homosexual?

Why is it so important to people, especially supporters of homosexuality, to prove and reiterate in many different ways that being homosexual is not a choice? Isn't that somehow hypocritical?

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10-02-2010, 05:04 PM	#122 (permalink)
Angela Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 22,520	I understand now -- homosexuality is like christianity. Something goes wrong -- you've got some emotional, biological, or parental imbalance, and it results in this wrong, immoral condition. I mean, I realize that some people feel it's relative, but I have to believe in something, and christianity is absolutely morally wrong. I love christians, but it would be good for them to be ashamed, and even depression is good for christians, because it helps them to make corrections and be repentant for the damage they do to themselves and to others by being christian. It's unnatural. Nobody is born christian. It only happens when something goes wrong. Christianity is like wanting to have sex with children (actually, having sex with children is part of being christian -- it's something that the leaders of christianity do, and of course, you want to emulate your leaders). It's like when a child hits another child -- very much like that, in fact; many, many people have been hit because of christianity! It's like alcoholism, too -- the christian believes and insists everything is under control, while everyone around her can see the desperation and unhappiness. Fortunately, there are loving, caring people around who would be delighted to help heal you from your christianity problem. The Taliban springs to mind. They're very effective at helping people to get over their christian problem. Listen, I don't judge you for being christian -- I love you. It's just your immoral beliefs I think are wrong and bad. It's for your own good that think it would be good to fix them.

10-02-2010, 05:11 PM	#123 (permalink)
Lifeisamazing Family Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Estonia, Tallinn Posts: 1,556	Who's Christian?

10-02-2010, 05:32 PM	#132 (permalink)
Angela Banned Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 22,520	Lifeisamazing, many people think that bodybuilding is unnatural and disgusting, and not at all the way people are supposed to be. There have actually been discussions about that here in the forums -- heated discussions in which people have gone on at length about how horrible bodybuilders are and how they should stop and just be normal. How does that occur for you?

10-02-2010, 05:43 PM	#136 (permalink)
Lauxa Family Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 2,545	My favorite theory about homosexuality is that it is a response to stress and overpopulation. So it keeps the human population from overwhelming the available resources by removing some from the breeding pool. If this is true, then there wouldn't be much need to worry about everyone going homo and thus causing species-wide extinction.

10-02-2010, 05:54 PM	#139 (permalink)
Mounds Family Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 3,853	Oh man, this thread is rich. Can we talk about big noses next? I have one and I'm quite convinced it's unnatural. When were done discussing that, let's talk about the unnatural state of the exclamation mark (!) and why Cadburry only sells those Creme Eggs around Easter. Don't they realize they could make so much more money!?! !!!! <-----I'm on to you....

10-02-2010, 06:11 PM	#150 (permalink)
Bliss Sage Family Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: A cute little town in Sweden :) Posts: 1,174	The underlying core of this debate seems to be about whether or not being homosexual is a choice or not. This implies that it would be wrong to choose to be a homosexual if it were a conscious choice. Is it wrong to choose homosexuality? If so, why? Why are all of the people here agreeing on this one point, that it is wrong to choose to be a homosexual? Why is it so important to people, especially supporters of homosexuality, to prove and reiterate in many different ways that being homosexual is not a choice? Isn't that somehow hypocritical?

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