11:11 Help!

[lilmouse]

Hi all,
This is my first posting on any online forum... ever! Thanks for having me and for bearing with me- I have spent the last year reading various articles about the number 11:11 seeking an explanation that makes sense and so far the only one that has is Steve's which I read about a year ago and came across again tonight- so yes, I took it as a sign (that and the fact that since deciding to ask the forum, my computer clock has been frozen at 12:22 and it is way past that time now).

Anyhow, by way of background, my intro to the triple and quandruple number world came with the number 11:11 and 1:11. By profession, I am a lawyer and at the time that they began to appear I was just out of school and starting my lawyer training. I was tired and heavily stressed and way too busy to even imagine there would be any significance to numbers on clocks, phones etc... Also, you should know the period marked the end of a very tumultuous (though pretty good at times while at others, pretty bad) phase of my life that had lasted about two years. Anyhow, they just appeared, everywhere, I was seeing 11:11 all the time and 1:11 even when it wasn't there (yes, you read me right, I would look at my phone, see 1:11, look again and it was 12:30 sort of deal- was even seeing it in my sleep). I thought I was losing it, but I felt pretty sane in every other way- exhausted yes, stressed, sure, but not crazy.

The occurence became so frequent, it was actually audacious- this sort of, "yep, here I am again, and if you think this is coincidence, well then here I am again and again...just in case you thought this was random". Truth is, even the feeling I got when I saw it was weird. From the onset, I would see the number and it felt purposeful and this scared me at times because I was not sure whether it was coming from a dark place or not and I would gladly like to be away from anything coming from a dark place. It felt like it wasn't bad, that it was a good thing, but I thought, what do I know? I am seeing random numbers and thinking they mean something like a crazy person, I am in no position to judge! But for some reason, I would see the numbers and think "pay attention!" to everything I was doing and thinking.

Finally, I googled the question and was amazed at how many sites came up- this gave me some consolation that at least there were more crazies like me.

But the explanations unfortunately provide absolutely no solace for me, not in the purpose of the numbers or their interpretation. I struggle to believe that people see these numbers because: they are god chosen light warriors, or are onto an energy frequency from another dimension (I mean what does that even mean anyway? why does showing me numbers tune me into another dimension, why is this the method of communication, what happens when I tune in?), or that Jesus is preparing me for his return, or that the Mayans are preparing me for the end or the beginning of the world? This just doesn't make any real sense when you consider how much these numbers have made themselves known to me- meaning, there have been phases.

From 111, we got to the 211, 311, 411 sort of pattern all the way to 911 at random times. Then the 222 appeared, then the 333's but only after the 444s. Then I meet a man and start dating him and 555's were everywhere around him, those and 11:11's, 10:10's and 12:12's. Then 777's and 999's came around too. Not to mention the 123's and the 12:34's. And just in case you guys think I went looking for this stuff, I didn't know these numbers had any significance until they appeared so often I knew I had to look them up- for example, when dating the guy, I noticed the 555's and looked them up.

Anyhow, I have so many stories, but ultimately there is a question after all this rant and that is- has anyone figured out what the purpose of the numbers is other than the ones I noted above about Jesus etc...and what the reason for the change is? Meaning how do we interpret them because I've tried following them, but for example, focusing my thoughts when I see 111; viewing 333 as a "yes", and 444 as a "no" just does not work like that.

That something is communicating with me- there is no doubt in my mind that this is happening, but I think I am overwhelmed with life and too many number combos to know if this energy/force just wants to check in and let me know its there, or if there is some sort of prophetic aspect of it, where I should be taking the appearances as signs to guide actions and thoughts. I was sure before that it was to guide actions but in the end, I thought I was on the right path and the outcome was not what I wanted and now I just feel silly.

I should also mention that a friend of mine started seeing them at the same time as me, and has tried desperately to stop- she does not like appearances and asks to not see them. We don't discuss them as she is sure they are encouraged this way and she is also sure they are not good, as what good force would need to manifest it's presence through clocks and numbers (her words not mine). You should also know I am not very religious (as in church going), and my profession requires skepticism. That said, I have always had really strong intuition, I am very sensitive to energy and many times have had channelling experiences, and psychic dreams.

This is the weirdest thing for me to grasp nonetheless- I don't require persuasion on the existence of psychic energy and universal forces or even angels, I know all of that exists and even if I can't explain it, I just know they are part of what is our "everything", but THIS I just don't get. I was fine with feelings, intuition etc... but two way communication in a language I don't understand is frustrating and I feel like an idiot.
Please if anyone feels the same or has an answer, share.

[pianoperformer]

Hi lilmouse,

I certainly know what you are talking about. Off and on, for months at a time, I get the same thing, and I still haven't figured it out fully. Some people say there are specific meanings for each set of numbers, but I'm not quite sure about that.

I always took them as meaning either I'm on the right path, and being a source of encouragement, or that I was being beckoned to a certain path. Usually they stop or significantly decrease once I've found their purpose. For me, they were appearing 3-5 or more times per day. I still get them at least every couple of days, though.

For instance, the last time I got them, i was struggling a lot with my faith within the Catholic Church, as I had just become Catholic recently. I was asking a lot of questions, and was very unsatisfied, and I felt like these numbers were calling me to something, though I couldn't figure out what it was for a few months. I posted a thread here about the whole ordeal, and was recommended to read A Course in Miracles, and once I started reading that, the numbers decreased significantly, though I still think they show up at times to keep my attention since I'm so busy with school and such, that it is very easy to put other things on the back burner.

Anyway, I wouldn't worry so much about it. Keep following your intuition, and maybe pray or meditate on it, and I'm sure you will find whatever God is calling you to do.

[lilmouse]

Thank you for your response. They've actually died down a bit since I posted, so maybe they go away when you start getting on a right track. I am going to read that article you recommended and see what happens there too. Thank you again.

[lilmouse]

Oops, I mean book!

[pianoperformer]

Originally Posted by lilmouse

Thank you for your response. They've actually died down a bit since I posted, so maybe they go away when you start getting on a right track. I am going to read that article you recommended and see what happens there too. Thank you again.

Yeah, that's been my experience so far as well. They seemed to have been trying to guide me towards something.

Yeah I'd definitely recommend that book. It has really done a lot for me and really helped me. I've been meaning to read it for years, and only just got inspired enough to do so recently that I got it and started. Let me know what you think.

[taylor]

From the Wikipedia page on Discordianism under the section entitled The Law of Fives:

Law of Fives

The Law of Fives is summarized in the Principia Discordia:

The Law of Fives states simply that: All things happen in fives, or are divisible by or are multiples of five, or are somehow directly or indirectly appropriate to 5

The Law of Fives is never wrong.
—Malaclypse the Younger, Principia Discordia, Page 00016

Like most of Discordianism, the Law of Fives appears on the surface to be either some sort of weird joke, or bizarre supernaturalism; but under this, it may help clarify the Discordian view of how the human mind works. Lord Omar is quoted later on the same page as having written, "I find the Law of Fives to be more and more manifest the harder I look."

Appendix Beth of Robert Shea's and Robert Anton Wilson's The Illuminatus! Trilogy considers some of the numerology of Discordianism, and the question of what would happen to the Law of Fives if everyone had six fingers on each hand. The authors assert that the real Law of Fives is realizing that everything can be related to the number five if you try hard enough. Sometimes the steps required may be highly convoluted. Incidentally, the number five appears five times within the quote describing the Law of Fives, which is stated in 23 words.

Another way of looking at the Law of Fives is as a symbol for the observation of reality changing that which is being observed in the observer's mind. Just as how when one looks for fives in reality, one finds them, so will one find conspiracies, ways to determine when the apocalypse will come, and so on and so forth when one decides to look for them. It cannot be wrong, because it proves itself reflexively when looked at through this lens.

At its basic level, the Law of Fives is a practical demonstration that perception is intent-sensitive; that is, the perceiver's intentions inform the perception. To whatever extent one considers that perception is identical with reality, then, it has the corollary that reality is intent-sensitive.

The law of fives may also be related to the significance of the number 23 or the 23 Enigma, as 2 plus 3 equals 5.

I believe in things like synchronicities, messages from a Higher Source, channeling. But I also believe in things like reticular activation system, suggestion, reflexivity and self-fulfilling prophecy. Sounds to me like you got a little carried away and it fed on itself. Just a guess having not been in your shoes.

[lilmouse]

Originally Posted by pianoperformer

Yeah, that's been my experience so far as well. They seemed to have been trying to guide me towards something.

Yeah I'd definitely recommend that book. It has really done a lot for me and really helped me. I've been meaning to read it for years, and only just got inspired enough to do so recently that I got it and started. Let me know what you think.

I will definately do that (so much for finishing Don Quixote once and for all...). After I read your reply, I thought to ask you what you think it was trying to guide you to. Then I looked up at your post and noted the 222 (old habits die hard and I couldn't resist lol, though I fully am taking into account Tylor's response about discordia etc. I hope he's right).

Thank you both.

[pianoperformer]

Originally Posted by lilmouse

I will definately do that (so much for finishing Don Quixote once and for all...). After I read your reply, I thought to ask you what you think it was trying to guide you to. Then I looked up at your post and noted the 222 (old habits die hard and I couldn't resist lol, though I fully am taking into account Tylor's response about discordia etc. I hope he's right).

Thank you both.

Lol, that's funny.

As to what theyw ere guiding me too, I think this time around I think they were at least trying to get me to read ACIM, and I'm not sure what else. They still happen every few days, so i don't think their purpose is quite over yet. They usually come at a time of a lot of transition, and the transition I'm in now isn't over yet, and I don't even know where it will end up.

The last time, i think they were trying to get me to come to the specific university I'm at now, where I ended up meeting my fiance, which I swear sometimes is the only reason I came here lol.

[lilmouse]

The transition thing makes a whole lot of sense right now and from what you've said it could in fact result in marriage...(nice! lol).

But here's the thing that messes with me, this isn't the first crazy period in my life and sure there are moments when I think there was guidance to get me through alot of them, but if that was in fact the case, then why the need for all the digital craziness now? By the looks of it based on all the people who have written articles and who post online, you and I are not alone in this, but maybe there really is nothing to them (lol just checked the clock 4:44) and this is some sort of collective misunderstanding based on I don't know, a feeling of collective aimlessness or sense of being lost and a need to expect something huge and wonderful to happen to each individual. That whole need to feel we're not alone and have some sort of higher purpose, but that in the end, it's just random and sometimes people go through their entire lives and nothing really extraordinary happens to them.

Maybe the fact that they appear at times of transition or instability means that they come when people are looking for some sort of answer and are most vulnerable?

I remember feeling a need to read my horoscope during such times and thinking "wow that is bang on" and even started taking certain suggestions that it made, lol, like "tonight's a great night to see friends...", but after that phase disappeared, I realised that the horoscopes repeated, they were just these random messages that would recycle every so often and there was nothing to them at all.

I don't know, it's just a thought, what do you think?
(Sorry for placing so much on your insights, but as you can see, this is not a very crowded forum).

[pianoperformer]

Originally Posted by lilmouse

The transition thing makes a whole lot of sense right now and from what you've said it could in fact result in marriage...(nice! lol).

Well, I think it depends on each person. It could very well be marriage, or it could be something else entirely. That's something you have to figure out.

Originally Posted by lilmouse

But here's the thing that messes with me, this isn't the first crazy period in my life and sure there are moments when I think there was guidance to get me through alot of them, but if that was in fact the case, then why the need for all the digital craziness now? By the looks of it based on all the people who have written articles and who post online, you and I are not alone in this, but maybe there really is nothing to them (lol just checked the clock 4:44) and this is some sort of collective misunderstanding based on I don't know, a feeling of collective aimlessness or sense of being lost and a need to expect something huge and wonderful to happen to each individual. That whole need to feel we're not alone and have some sort of higher purpose, but that in the end, it's just random and sometimes people go through their entire lives and nothing really extraordinary happens to them.

Maybe the fact that they appear at times of transition or instability means that they come when people are looking for some sort of answer and are most vulnerable?

I remember feeling a need to read my horoscope during such times and thinking "wow that is bang on" and even started taking certain suggestions that it made, lol, like "tonight's a great night to see friends...", but after that phase disappeared, I realised that the horoscopes repeated, they were just these random messages that would recycle every so often and there was nothing to them at all.

I don't know, it's just a thought, what do you think?

I think it's a possibility, but I don't really believe it. When it happened to me, I didn't really think it was a period of transition, until later on when I saw what happened to me around that time, and where I ended up. I was fairly happy at the time. Sure there were things that I was confused about, but I don't think I was actively looking for divine guidance, so to speak.

I've also noticed that they happen independently of whether I look for them or not. Sometimes I would look for them, and they just wouldn't appear. Or sometimes they mess with me and almost appear, but not quite, such as in the case 1110 or 223. But other times they actually do appear, multiple times per day, still independent of if I'm looking for them or not. In fact, it seemed that the more I looked for them, the more they didn't appear.

Perhaps you just weren't open to that happening before? They do have a purpose, but if that purpose would have been lost on you before now, then there's no reason for them to appear to you. But now you are ready to receive their message, and so they are in your life.

Originally Posted by lilmouse

(Sorry for placing so much on your insights, but as you can see, this is not a very crowded forum).

Oh, it's no problem at all. I enjoy talking about these things.