a manifestation of consciouness

[mysterygal]

In one of Steve's posts he said " I too am just a manifestation of your consciousness. I play the role you expect me to play.....But of course there’s no distinct ME that is separate from YOU. I’m just one of your many creations. I am what you intend me to be. But deep down you already knew that, didn’t you?"

If Steve is one of my creations, OR am I one of his creations?

[Holden McNeil]

SecretSeven? Your posting style is that obvious, man.

[mysterygal]

muah haha I will never reveal my true indentity

[Excellent Lodestar]

As I understand it, From your perspective(which is all) Steve is YOUR Creation.

[SecretSeven]

My perspective is all?

[Excellent Lodestar]

well, Yes...you else's could you possibly have?

[SecretSeven]

But maybe Steve is your creation

[Excellent Lodestar]

No maybe about it my friend, He Is. But I thought we we discussing YOUR Hologram? also it seems you may be caught up in a "tangled hierarchy" AKA the "lairs paradox" this happens when we try to figure "others" realities.drove me nuts ...for about 16 minutes. Good stuff.

Chapter 7
Go to 7.5. Paradoxes and tangled hierarchies

[SecretSeven]

Lol....wow so confusing. So he's your creation and mine? and God's and everyone elses?

[SecretSeven]

lol, I'm slow! So I don't really understand that whole tangling of heirachies ....but I will go over it until I have a good grasp.

[Dharma]

Watch this movie --> Being John Malkovich
It will open up some space in your mind. The end of the movie is where it most relates to your topic. So grab some popcorn and relax.

[SecretSeven]

Thanks I'll check it out!! These posts are really helpful

[eternomi]

Originally Posted by mysterygal

If Steve is one of my creations, OR am I one of his creations?

You did not create Steve or anyone else.. The reason certain people and events show up in your reality is to make real what you hold true for yourself in your thoughts, beliefs and actions. Thus, "attraction" is probably a better word for it than "creation".

Some things we forget that we hold true in our minds the same way we forget what we ate 20 years ago for dinner... or they become etched into the subconscious and work automatically without active thought just like riding a bike, driving a car and speaking a language.

Other things lie completely outside of our awareness until they actually show up in our reality. Once you are aware of them, you are once again in charge to keep attracting it or repelling it with your thoughts, beliefs and actions.

[SecretSeven]

People exist whether I attract them into my life or not.

[eternomi]

Originally Posted by SecretSeven

People exist whether I attract them into my life or not.

As far as my understanding goes, nothing exists in your world until you are aware of it. Until you experience something, it is the same to you if it didn't exist at all. But this is completely subjective. It does not mean it doesn't exist in the absolute sense.. or that it exists the way you perceive it! In a way, you may never know what the absolute perception of anything is..

One other issue is the concept that "I" am attracting things into my life. To me, what you attract to your life is no different than what station a radio attracts to its speakers. The radio has no content producing capability. It is tuned into some frequency and it attracts whichever station it gets at that frequency. Each person is tuned into some (unique) frequency and it attracts that now and forever. To you, at a personal level, it feels like "you" are thinking and doing and attracting things... but that's also a subjective and relative experience.

[SecretSeven]

The idea that everything is relative is fascinating to me. I mean how do we even know what the world looks like? Who knows if color actually exists, or if it is just a creation of our minds. Our minds are so powerful, but it would be really neat if we could get a different perspective on the world outside of our limited senses and perception.