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Old 09-12-2010, 10:28 PM   #61 (permalink)
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Awesome notes! I love your perspective on constraints. I'm going to steal that.

I got to get to that workshop and start surfing (figuratively, speaking..maybe).

I hope this new field is as collaborative as it sounds. We could use massive higher conscious collaboration.
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Old 09-12-2010, 10:42 PM   #62 (permalink)
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Steve, are you familiar with the 8 Circuit Model? Read Prometheus Rising by Robert Anton Wilson if you're not, it's a great read.

Anyway, what you are doing is activating Circuit VI, doing meta-programming on your reality tunnel. Ie selecting the reality that is most appealing to you instead of being trapped within one.

Check out my buddy Illuminatus, he is THE current authority on the 8CM in my opinion: Personal Power Meditation - Index

Also, I must say I am getting some MAD synchronicities from a lot of your posts, mostly with words and concepts you are using. It almost feels as if I have a thought about some concept, go "hmmm... interesting...", then I log on to your site and see you just wrote a post on it. For instance the bit about seeing yourself as the creator of your life's story and thus being grateful for limitations, and that's just a recent example. Are you spying on my brain, Steve?
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Amen to the synchros.
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Old 09-12-2010, 11:17 PM   #64 (permalink)
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Goals that already exist don't really motivate me i live the idea of doing things that no one else has, that doesnt exist or people say is impossible because it doesnt exist.
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No one has guessed it, neither here nor on Facebook, nor via email. It's hard to guess at something that doesn't exist yet. There's no conventional name for it. I seriously doubt anyone will come close to guessing it. If you can give it a conventional label like a politician or movie maker or philanthropist, that isn't it.

It would be like trying to label blogging before there were any blogs. Maybe you could describe it as online journaling, but that description is rather limiting. And if you told people you were going to make a successful career out of online journaling, they'd say you were nuts.

I'm not going into a field that already exists. It's a new field I wish to help create, and it doesn't have a label as of yet. Might takes years to get it going, but it will surely be a fun ride. And I suspect that 5-10 years from now, this field will be huge.

Makes for a good story too.

I tend to have a knack for "skating where the puck is going." I got into indie game development before it took off. I got into blogging early too. I've benefitted from catching the right waves at the right time.

I see a new wave that's about to arise, one that's potentially much bigger than indie games or blogging. And this time I want to catch it earlier, before most people even realize it exists. And I also wonder if I can play a serious role in contributing to the building of the wave itself.

So in a way, this is a natural progression for me. This is a wave I definitely don't want to miss.
That's frakking awesome, and frakking exciting indeed. I'm only 16, and I sometimes think about getting into a career that doesn't even exist yet. Whatever wave you're riding, perhaps I will ride it with you someday.
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Old 09-12-2010, 11:32 PM   #66 (permalink)
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Wow, I am really curious!
Maybe something to do with polyamory and subjective reality? Like creating Total Recall type experiemces?
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Old 09-12-2010, 11:39 PM   #67 (permalink)
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Also, I must say I am getting some MAD synchronicities from a lot of your posts, mostly with words and concepts you are using. It almost feels as if I have a thought about some concept, go "hmmm... interesting...", then I log on to your site and see you just wrote a post on it. For instance the bit about seeing yourself as the creator of your life's story and thus being grateful for limitations, and that's just a recent example. Are you spying on my brain, Steve?
Funny you should use that wording. While Rachelle and I were eating at Whole Foods right around the time you posted this, we were having a strange discussion which led to trying to remember the name of Dr. Claw's cat from Inspector Gadget.

The cat's name is MAD.
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No one has guessed it, neither here nor on Facebook, nor via email. It's hard to guess at something that doesn't exist yet. There's no conventional name for it. I seriously doubt anyone will come close to guessing it. If you can give it a conventional label like a politician or movie maker or philanthropist, that isn't it.

It would be like trying to label blogging before there were any blogs. Maybe you could describe it as online journaling, but that description is rather limiting. And if you told people you were going to make a successful career out of online journaling, they'd say you were nuts.

I'm not going into a field that already exists. It's a new field I wish to help create, and it doesn't have a label as of yet. Might takes years to get it going, but it will surely be a fun ride. And I suspect that 5-10 years from now, this field will be huge.

Makes for a good story too.

I tend to have a knack for "skating where the puck is going." I got into indie game development before it took off. I got into blogging early too. I've benefitted from catching the right waves at the right time.

I see a new wave that's about to arise, one that's potentially much bigger than indie games or blogging. And this time I want to catch it earlier, before most people even realize it exists. And I also wonder if I can play a serious role in contributing to the building of the wave itself.

So in a way, this is a natural progression for me. This is a wave I definitely don't want to miss.
Thanks for all the clues Steve. This does make it a little easier to guess, even if it is still something that doesn't exist yet.

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1.No one has guessed yet it on Facebook or here
2.It doesn't exist yet, there is no conventional name for it
3.The 'field' is going to be huge in the next 10-15 years potentially
4.It makes for a good story
5.It is a natural progression for Steve (the personal development guy)

That last clue doesn't do much good though, cuz pretty much everything falls under PD in some way.
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Old 09-13-2010, 12:33 AM   #69 (permalink)
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Do we get a prize if we guess correctly?

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Wow. I take a day off from this website, and look what I miss. Since there's apparently no name for Steve's new career, I'm free to make one up.

He's going to become a Pavlinist.
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Is this new career going to be:

a mix of polyamory prostitution + life coaching at the same time?

Coaching from subjective reality viewpoint?

Massage + life coaching at the same time?

Video blogging on the Ipad?

Becoming the leader of a free community with it's own unique rules and way of life?

Creating a game that is your own life and you can see what happens with all the choices you make?

Open up a Raw Food cafe where you teach personal development at the same time?

Creating a game that involves all of the personal development concepts you teach?

Being a subjective reality pyschic?

Make an app for the iphone/ipad based on your personal development work?

Creating a center where people come and interact with activities based on your personal development work and subjective reality?

Letting people read your mind, hooking your brain up to a blog so it blogs all the contents of your brain and people can then use your thoughts and insights to improve their life while you don't have to consciously blog anymore?


You say you like catching the wave before everyone else does. Does that mean you believe that only some people who catch the wave early on can be rich and accept that you can be rich but most people can't?
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Steve come on...I didn't get in on the groundfloor of stock buying for Microsoft, Dell, Apple, Blogging, Cisco, Oracle, nothing..I got nothing...so if this is the next big thing...you should share it with your loyal readers

Its only a dream anyway

How about a hint? Will it do away with your tag line?
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Old 09-13-2010, 08:26 AM   #73 (permalink)
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Steve's changes excite me just as much as my own do. I can't wait to see what this is all about. Until then, I will just work on my own story, "The Winter I Got Serious and Quit My Job."
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I like the analogy with Band Aids. From subjective point of view, if this world is a dream world, then no believe is true. All are constraints to have a dream and believe in it.

Then we are made of Band-Aids upon Band-Aids, glued together, sustaining each other and so on, think of a mummy. Tell me, what is left if you remove all band aids? Who we really are then? What is the truth?

From the dream world point of view, what's its purpose? To continue, to conjure one drama after another, to set goals after goals? It seems that the dream wants to keep on dreaming so it/we/me you don't "wake up".

What/who is there to develop? Isn't it that all that you can achieve (money, etc) and all that you can become is of the dream world?

Now that you realized it's all an illusion and you are the creator of it and you can write your own story, you want to write a challenging one.

And after that, then what, Steve?

If you realize there is no meaning (other than the experience itself), can you still play the game?
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Steve, I'm reading this post and enjoying it as always. But can't help noticing that you chickened out of grander reality editing by scapegoating it as "spectacle".

This was a great opportunity to test the limits of what you could do. If you hadn't enjoyed it, you could've gone back to storytelling mode - at least you would've known.

I devised a shamanic ritual using cannabis to explore personal reality editing. The link is here: Magic Mushrooms

I can use the technique to hallucinate now without cannabis. However, once I stop, reality "reverts". This may be because I haven't gone into subjectivity as deeply as you have. I am still mostly objective, with occasional subjective virtual machines. It would be fantastic if you could have a go at the method, to test what can be done with it while running a fully subjective OS.

Please let us know if interested!

And don't chicken out this time.
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Steve, I'm reading this post and enjoying it as always. But can't help noticing that you chickened out of grander reality editing by scapegoating it as "spectacle".

This was a great opportunity to test the limits of what you could do. If you hadn't enjoyed it, you could've gone back to storytelling mode - at least you would've known.

I devised a shamanic ritual using cannabis to explore personal reality editing. The link is here: Magic Mushrooms

I can use the technique to hallucinate now without cannabis. However, once I stop, reality "reverts". This may be because I haven't gone into subjectivity as deeply as you have. I am still mostly objective, with occasional subjective virtual machines. It would be fantastic if you could have a go at the method, to test what can be done with it while running a fully subjective OS.

Please let us know if interested!

And don't chicken out this time.
Perhaps what you don't presently realize is that I'm actually doing the biggest subjective reality experiment I've ever attempted, much more interesting than parlor tricks.
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If you realize there is no meaning (other than the experience itself), can you still play the game?
You create the meaning.

Trying to wake up is pointless. If you wake up from the current dream, you'll simply find yourself in another one. You'll never be able to know you aren't dreaming.

Embrace what you're dreaming right now because it's all you.
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I don't post in here very often. . . except to whine every once in a while! LOL!

Steve's recent posts have made me stop whining and start to really take a look at my life. I am beginning to wonder if the subjective reality "dream" perspective is a way to remain focused on the present.

I have begun to concentrate less on "my past" and I'm trying to plan even less for the future. The more I concentrate on "now" the more my story has been unfolding in more positive ways.

Getting clear about what I want "right now" has also helped me to more clearly communicate my intentions, and this has eased some friction that I previously felt with certain aspects of my story.

I haven't immersed myself as deeply in the subjective reality perspective as Steve has, but I am certainly seeing benefits through my limited experience with it.

Thank you so much Steve!

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So you aren't even curious about parlour tricks?

Even though they're REALLY cool?
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So you aren't even curious about parlour tricks?

Even though they're REALLY cool?
You're talking about working within the dream world and extending what you can do there. I'm more interested in working on it; change the nature of the dream itself.
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You're talking about working within the dream world and extending what you can do there. I'm more interested in working on it; change the nature of the dream itself.
Hrmmmmm... More of my theory confirmed on what I think you are working on.
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Why would you want to do that? This dream is pretty awesome.
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Why would you want to do that? This dream is pretty awesome.
There are levels beyond awesome.
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Whatever you do Steve, please share! It's so inspiring and exciting to read what you are thinking and doing!

And of course the limitations are here for the "feeling of life"! If you start a game and then imidately after, the screen said "You've won!" there would be nothing in it, no fun, no developement, and of course no story. And because we humans have no limitations in us, the obstacles have no limitations.

I feel so inspired from this blog post! Thank you Steve!
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And of course the limitations are here for the "feeling of life"! If you start a game and then imidately after, the screen said "You've won!" there would be nothing in it, no fun, no developement, and of course no story. And because we humans have no limitations in us, the obstacles have no limitations.

I feel so inspired from this blog post! Thank you Steve!
I will share in good time, but this isn't the right time. Most likely not till well into 2011.
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You're talking about working within the dream world and extending what you can do there. I'm more interested in working on it; change the nature of the dream itself.
Hacking reality, huh? So you're gonna try to become a deity or something of the sort?
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What is the point of having a subjective reality, if you use the same rules as in the objective reality? I'm trying to get my head around it but I don't really see the difference, except that you take that view that you created everything. But does that really make a difference on what you do?
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Hi Steve, and hi others.
This might be on the edge of reality too much, and we have other tools available, but it fits. I'll go on the edge and take it back later if I have to. Good luck on your psychic link "chat interface", Steve. (based on the way everything internet started) It's fun to guess based on limited info after all! Boy that would be one hell of a "beta" period, though.

And now past the stream of mental stuff, I've been living subjectively and I need to pull off many of those sticky objective bandaid apps, but I delay doing it to teach myself a lesson I guess, another app that requires all the others installed sort of like .net .

It was really odd, I was wondering why this specific post resonated so much, and it was because of my efforts with "objectivity" and "omnism". Both of those broke down the concepts in complimentary ways, but a major side effect is that on simple things you have a lot of data to work with so it takes longer to make decisions like what type of jelly do you want to go with your peanut butter. Usually I go from left to right, just like I read. I now work more subjectively, because I decided that's the best organizer for omnist thinking. I had no other tool to use that I could see, and I used it so much that I use it as my OS right now. I sense a 3rd OS available out there, potentially, but with English I can't quite grasp it, yet. Any ideas on where to go from here? Thanks ahead.
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I think the next progression of personal development would include a medium that's more dynamic than a blog or book.
A website that gives different people different advice depending on their needs.
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I think the next progression of personal development would include a medium that's more dynamic than a blog or book.
A website that gives different people different advice depending on their needs.
That's one, but it doesn't seem to be Steve's style, not saying I'm the expert though. Instead I could see that as part of something else.
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