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Old 08-25-2010, 12:00 AM   #1 (permalink)
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30 Days of Inspiration Recap
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Old 08-25-2010, 12:21 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Thanks for sharing the experience, it was some brave thing, this trial. Made me wonder whether i shouldn't give the subjective reality lens a trial, too, for a change, although my objective reality lens are working so fine for me i'm not sure i'd want to mess with them.
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I really enjoyed that! It was interesting to see you tie all your experiences of the trial together in a broad way.

And it looks like we have the same favorite workout.
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Old 08-25-2010, 12:38 AM   #4 (permalink)
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Steve, I had a feeling you were not going to like the inspiration side of this trial as much as the subjective side. Inspiration can take you places you probably thought were good at the time, but turn out to be a waste of time or just not that great. Seeing life as a dream was something you started to cover way back in 2006 and that is when I did an experiment with it. It maybe lasted 2 weeks and weird things started to happen. People would come up to me while I was working and hand me money. I'm trying to reintegrate the dream world back into my reality to see if it will optimize my enjoyment in life.

It's just hard, being brought up in what we were told is an objective universe. Like you, I am constantly reminding myself that I am dreaming, and my reality is starting to shift once again, but slowly. That's fine with me, for now, until I grasp the significance of this subjective reality once again. Steve, it's always good reading your posts. You remind me a lot of myself when you talk about your childhood and your college experiences. I can't help but think you are a part of me.
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Love it. Your concluding remarks on the trial make more sense to me than some in the beginning.
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Steve, that was a really well thought out article and I have to admire the way you stuck it out for 30 days. No way would I have had the stamina to do that- congratulations.

Your views were balanced and made a lot of sense to me. I particuarly liked the way you linked the objective and subjective elements and I think that can help understanding.

Addressing the effects on your business, PD as a whole, and the TLP framework were really appreciated.

Thank you for doing this and sharing the results.
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Nice one Stevo, it's great you realize that working within certain high-level belief structures is easier than changing them.
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And it looks like we have the same favorite workout.
If I hadn't read the blog post I'd have thought you were flirting... (-:

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Thanks for this blogpost Steve. I love that you make the connection between the inspiration side of this not being so agreeable and how this reflects your prior underlying beliefs... My intuition says that living from inspiration would be the best way to live - if only we could shake off all the worldly limiting beliefs we have acquired since early childhood...
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....if only we could shake off all the worldly limiting beliefs we have acquired since early childhood...
That's probably what spontaneous human combustion is.
Personally not my cup of tea.
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That's probably what spontaneous human combustion is.
Personally not my cup of tea.
That's funny!
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Interesting you wrote on beliefs. I've been thinking about beliefs non-stop for the last 5 days and how without even knowing it I've made my world congruent with some of the deep-seated beliefs I've had about myself.
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Whew, I'm glad you're through this. I'm ready for a new subject around here other than the constant barrage of SR threads.
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Whew, I'm glad you're through this. I'm ready for a whole new barrage of SR threads!
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I'm still waiting for new material on how to get up in the morning.
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You're done? I was waiting for what happened when you and your SR squeeze picked up on that halfway done blow-job
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That's probably what spontaneous human combustion is.
Personally not my cup of tea.
LOL

... but isn't SHC what happens to the suicidally depressed person who has given a little to much thought to the burial/cremation question?

Oh. And yes, Steve. Just how do you get up in the morning in a SR? (-:
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Hey, Steve

This last post contains some interesting insights, I especially loved the one regarding objective experience not existing at all. It surprised me, I have to admit, that you looked at the world mainly through the objective lens up until you started this 30-day trial. You said that you were diving into subjective reality and law of attraction, and your experiences seem way more congruent with SR, so I assumed you had ruled out objective reality long ago.

Now, it would be interesting to explore from a practical side the three ways of approaching and playing with your beliefs. Completely re-programming some of them would be quite an achievement.

Also, if it's not too personal, why do you refrain yourself from messing with the belief system structures straight away? Do you think that it would be too stressful?

Thanks for sharing your experience,

Daniel.
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Steve,

Would you recommend living in a dream world moreso for those who've defined themselves as retired as compared to those who are working for something?

And how would you define 'work' now after having conducted this experiment?

Thanks for your time
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Very interesting. I have a question though.

You mentioned that as you focused on a person's scarcity or neediness, more of that would manifest in your world. However, what does this mean for a counselor, or even for someone like Erin who works with a lot of people who are having trouble with some aspect of life? How can they safely help people without manifesting those problems themselves?

That is, if I understood what you were saying properly, which I may not have.
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... but isn't SHC what happens to the suicidally depressed person who has given a little to much thought to the burial/cremation question?
(-:
I suppose that could also be the case
Maybe they both have something in common, they're both trying very hard to transcend the physical world. The physical world aint that bad imo. Maybe it's all about looking for the nuances of how great it actually is instead of trying to transcend it. *Note the quantum observer effect

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I'm ready for a new subject around here other than the constant barrage of SR threads.
You read those?
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Yes I read them all and I create them all.
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Very interesting. I have a question though.

You mentioned that as you focused on a person's scarcity or neediness, more of that would manifest in your world. However, what does this mean for a counselor, or even for someone like Erin who works with a lot of people who are having trouble with some aspect of life? How can they safely help people without manifesting those problems themselves?

That is, if I understood what you were saying properly, which I may not have.
Somebody posted a link on another thread about the guy who practiced Ho'oponopono on a mental hospital - he only saw the patients to observe the results of his meditations which were basically "I'm sorry. I love you. Pleas forgive me. Thank you". It's here I think:

100% Responsibility and the Promise of a Hot Fudge Sundae: An Interview with Ihaleakala Hew Len

So for any counsellor or teacher, the interaction with client or pupil is really only about seeing what you are manifesting so that you have feedback to see how well you are doing in "meditative attraction". So I guess if a counsellors general clientele involves helping people move from anger to (the softer) frustration and hopefully further, they would be hoping to attract the experience of most clientele being in, say, frustration and bringing them to optimism or hope... Until you are the counsellor taking the spiritual cream of humanity from "joy" to "ecstatic oneness".. The words are limiting, but the scale is surely infinite.... It call always get better. (-:

Just my point of view. Not too well put... (-:
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Yes I read them all and I create them all.
Thank you for stretching the boundaries of my beliefs!!!
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Here's my question, and I hope it doesn't spoil the inspiration party, but I'm curious. How do you know what you're acting on is complete inspiration? How do you know it isn't unconscious patterns? That it's not just hormones? Or a forgotten memory being activated by current situations?

How do you know when you are really feeling "divinely inspired?" Isn't that just emotion?

What's the difference between inspiration and intuitive gleanings. Is it the same thing?

As far as the subjective reality experience, I've done the same thing off and on for many years, and it's a blast. Oddly, I had about 3 sleep-time dreams about Steve in the last month as I watched his experiments in this reality.

(Oh, and hi... longtime lurker here.)
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Awesome post. One of the most honest and insightful posts I have read from Steve. It really shows that during this trial he really challenged and learned more about himself, others, and the world. It feels like his feet are back on the ground again but with a way different perception on Life.

"Truth never hides".

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Awesome post. One of the most honest and insightful posts I have read from Steve. It really shows that during this trial he really challenged and learned more about himself, others, and the world. It feels like his feet are back on the ground again but with a way different perception on Life.

"Truth never hides".

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i also recognized a shift in steves perception and thinking in this post and therefore i can't wait for some new projects/ideas/threads.
rly looking forward to it.

and ys of course a big thanks to steve sharing your experience with us.
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Instead of thinking about options and opportunities , I am pondering my beliefs.

What do i believe to be my best options and opportunities?

That may seem like a subtle distinction , but it gets me thinking in new directions.
Another masterpiece by Steve.
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