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08-22-2010, 07:37 PM
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It seems like your interactions with him tend to follow the same pattern. You blip back onto whatever bait he throws out, you go back and forth about things, and then you bow out and he makes some snarky comment about how he'll "see you next time." I wonder how things might change between you if you changed up that pattern somehow. | |
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08-22-2010, 07:38 PM
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08-22-2010, 09:05 PM
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This will be the last name I make and if I get banned a third time so be it! I have done nothing worse anywhere on this website than what has been done in this thread alone by all of YOU!!! I can say this and it is a Fair statement, what have I done worse, that hasnt already been done in this thread? I honestly would like a good answer about that! No jokes, I am not demanding, I am asking, Please someone tell me! Please, I am sorry for what I have done if it is worse than what people have done in this thread and along with "I channel"-by Themasters thread. Truly sorry if I crossed the line even more than themaster has! Because we both crossed the lines of disrespect, and that is what deserves a Ban! Aarons whole reason for this thread that I pick up from this thread and in his post when I asked him about disrespect, all he had to say was I felt disrespected and the thread is complete! For him to say no! and make stories will cause the thread to go on for infinity with more people disrespecting each other, just like in this thread, and in themasters "I channel" thread. The Proof of what I am saying about disrespect is in front of you all right here! but you ban ME for saying the truth. Ban me again, I have done nothing worse than any of you! If I get banned again, I will not return to post ever again, because for me to get banned is you guys lying to yourselves like you do now. Quote:
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08-22-2010, 09:13 PM
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The tension you guys sense in me is not there! I am happy as can be! The tension is in yourselves, in God! You just lie to yourselves. | |
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08-22-2010, 09:21 PM
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@Darksage: You were banned because you publicly asked to have your account deleted. Since we can't delete accounts as that would corrupt the archives, it was interpreted as if you'd asked to be banned.
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08-22-2010, 09:22 PM
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See, I dont know everything! But I know who does, the REAL one God. You call it a dream, another game! Please guys, can we not play games one day! PLEASE! Im asking nicely. | |
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08-22-2010, 09:24 PM
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08-22-2010, 09:26 PM
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Darksage3 (is the 3 silent?), I'll tell you what I tell my son when he breaks out the "please" like you just did here. Please is a way of asking someone couteously for something, not a magic tool for manipulating people to doing what you want. |
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08-23-2010, 08:07 AM
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Who needs moderation with all the neutral feeling and perspective sharing that goes on here? No one ever argues or is rude, they just swap lens and share ideas No one is ever hurt, they just value each others input  Last edited by escapeplan; 08-23-2010 at 08:11 AM. |
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08-23-2010, 11:20 AM
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I think the thing everyone needs to understand is that what we all write comes from our beliefs. We would all like to think we are open minded and open to new ideas but the reality is that it takes effort to change beliefs. Sometimes other peoples ideas are so alien to ours that tensions or a feeling of unease can occur, and in extremes this results in a need for a moderator to step in. Most conflicts arise from conflicting beliefs and the moderators can provide a calming affect when things seem to be getting out of hand or nasty. One thing we all need to remember is that all of our beliefs hold meaning for us, and it is very hard to convince anyone else that we are wrong and they are right. All beliefs are as valid as each others whether we agree with them or not. Now I will state that I am not religious but I would like to point out something on behalf of those that are. Those with religious ideas get a rough ride on these forums, and that is often justified by other members claiming that it is because they are trying to "convert us". Yet it seems to me that everyone here has very strong beliefs which through our posts and comments we impart onto others. I hope to see more areas developing whereby those with religious beliefs are not so easily dismissed or made fun of. |
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08-23-2010, 12:34 PM
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(looked like a good post for me to repackage and mirror back to you) | |
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08-23-2010, 12:53 PM
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08-23-2010, 01:42 PM
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Last edited by escapeplan; 08-23-2010 at 01:45 PM. | |
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08-23-2010, 01:45 PM
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There seems a pressure to say "no offense taken" when in fact in many cases some is. Just supporting the case for moderators that's all. | |
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08-23-2010, 01:58 PM
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But I believe, in the case of themaster and I, the notion of feeling neutral is genuine. It is for me anyway. It wasn't always. Considering how themaster has often appeared around the notion of emotion, I would imagine he was being genuine there as well. Besides, I think there are plenty of people here who DO engage in debate from an ideas space. Provocative and evocative posting isn't true debate. Who's feelings are you REALLY getting at here?  | |
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08-23-2010, 02:09 PM
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I hope I haven't touched a nerve here. I wasn't actually referring to you and the master but his post made me think of a similar post in another thread. Allow me to give an example... You have capitalised the words REALLY in your response, possibly implying I may be talking about myself (I say possibly as this could be misinterpreted). I don't know what yor belief on this subject is but last night as I listened to darksage3 it felt like listening to a rant- until I really heard that he too was expressing a belief, just like the rest of us here do all the time- me, you, everyone. I started to consider how hard this forum must be for those with religious faith, and why, when we have a high tolerance to many other ideas, is religious faith usually in line for such a hard beating. Darksage expressed a lot of emotion about how he felt some of the responses were to him. He didn't talk of neutral feelings, he spoke of anger and frustration. Feeling neutral is a choice that some think is best (personally I don't). I see a lot of references made to neutrality yet sometimes the words behind that express an emotion. Not necessarily you and the master- like I say my post had nothing to do with you two other than his post promting my thoughts again. So once again, as I say, I was expressing a need for moderation and think on the whole the mods here get the balance pretty right  | |
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08-23-2010, 02:32 PM
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Can't speak for others, but I know there's been MANY people who come to this forum, and the first thing they do is say something to the effect of, "I am enlightened. I can share this pure truth with you if you want it." Sometimes they offer to do it for a fee. This may be where the response comes from - a sense that it's happened before, and the aspect sharing typically ends up seeming no more enlightened than the rest of us (which, it is my belief, that we are all enlightened and at varying levels of awareness of our inherent enlightened state). Or maybe the response to the religious stuff is less about the content and more about the delivery. As often the info is shared as THE truth, not A truth. In a way that does not leave space for another truth to also count. I am personally less inclined to consider a perspective if it is framed as the only right one. I take care not to give that impression myself, though perhaps I sometimes do anyway. But it's my intention to respect others' rights to see things as they choose to. Of course such a person has feelings and is human. But perhaps there is responsibility on both sides. Such a person is responsible for the way they choose to communicate. I'm not one to always respond with total kindness and openness to an aspect of Self that is choosing intensely negative labels for others. It's not that I am uncaring in such a situation. It's more like I am consciously aware of the mechanism of reinforcement. Skillful means... | |
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08-23-2010, 02:38 PM
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 I still <3 him. I <3 like the desert <3's the rain. | |
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08-23-2010, 02:45 PM
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I personally don't have any interest in feeling bad just because someone who is trolling wants me to. I'm not obligated to connect via negative attention just because that's the approach someone is using. | |
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08-23-2010, 02:48 PM
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). Hardly any of the religious people around here don't honor others' right to choose their own beliefs, but once in awhile, someone comes along (religious or not) who goes well beyond challenging a belief system, and into the realm of badgering the person who holds them. Those tend to be the people who are given a "hard time," I think. We've had skeptics who believe that skeptics are given a hard time, too; they also didn't realize that they weren't being given a hard time because they were skeptics, but they didn't see the dishonoring that was present in their "challenging." | |
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08-23-2010, 03:37 PM
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Now, back to work with inspiring us and ****. | |
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08-23-2010, 03:54 PM
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"Back to work inspiring us!" is a bold way of saying you are inspired by Ssandra, and there's a real connection there, and vulnerability. Saying, "Back to work inspiring us and ****" is a step back from that, it's a joke, it doesn't mean much. Love you! And ****. | ||
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08-23-2010, 04:05 PM
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Very nice, carenk! I personally get all hot and bothered around men who simply put the emotive stuff out there without taking it back in some way. Saying it and then saying something to take it back leads to something like the feminine emotional equivalent of blue balls. It takes a very strong, powerful man to own his sweet side. It's very sexy when I see a man who has boldly stopped living under the pressures around masculinity and sweetness. |
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