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Old 08-05-2010, 05:36 PM   #61 (permalink)
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There is no pen.
Actually - it's the pen that's dreaming you. You only exist to give meaning to the pen in it's dream, and make it seem more real to it :P

I, on the otherhand, am dreaming up the pen thats dreaming you... or am I?
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Old 08-05-2010, 05:37 PM   #62 (permalink)
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So if our waking reality is a dream - is reality only accessed after we physically die?
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So if our waking reality is a dream - is reality only accessed after we physically die?
Not necessarily... dying doesn't mean you access reality:
a) the dream could be all there is to reality
b) you're characters death doesn't mean the dream ends, assuming were all the dreamer, everyone and everything would have to cease to exist for the dream to end
c) you could just move on to another dream, like you would in the dream cycle(you have 6+ dreams per night, some might end with you dying, it doesn't mean you wake up)
d) you could wake up into a dream where you think you just woke up from a dream

and have you never had a dream which was accurate to reality? as in your waking reality? you could be dreaming the actual "real" world even while your dreaming. You never know.

and I'm sure there are more possibilities
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Old 08-05-2010, 06:15 PM   #64 (permalink)
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What about the whole idea of the dreamtime? What if we are nudging each other collectively to wake up from the dream.
- I posted it somewhere else, but I might as well post it here too. Adbusters online just put out an article called "Is polyamory revolutionary?"

coincidence or synchronicity?

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Old 08-05-2010, 06:25 PM   #65 (permalink)
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Consciousness cannot, and does not die. That is an ego state.

If you went to the ocean with a jar, and scooped up some of the ocean then put the lid on the jar. Is what's in the jar the ocean? Where are the waves? It looks like the ocean but, no fish? Is it part of the ocean?

Poor the contents of the jar back into the ocean. Where did it go? Can you see it? It's there right? Was it ever something other than the ocean?

This is truth. It is there for all to see.
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Old 08-05-2010, 06:34 PM   #66 (permalink)
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This reminds me a little of a play I wrote 3-4 years ago about the nature of reality / subjective reality. It was actually for children, maybe around ages 8-12. Perhaps a bit advanced of a topic for kids (?), but my intent was to create a play that appealed to both children and adults on different levels, hoping anyone of any age would take something away from it.

Anyway, in my play, closer to end, the "All" speaks to the main character(s) and says:

"I am you. You are me. We are All and everything; that ever was and ever will be."

The characters try to speculate and make sense of this, and where/when they are (because they are lost):

"I think we’re Everywhere. That place before time where the entire universe existed as one; before everything became separated from itself."

"But why did it become separate… why didn’t it stay whole, as one?"

"I don’t know, Alexia… Maybe something OUTSIDE the universe caused it to
explode into billions of pieces, causing that big bang?"

"Maybe… Or Maybe the universe was lonely, and wanted someone else to play with, or someone else to pay attention to it. And so it broke itself into millions of pieces so that it would be able to be friends with itself, and keep itself company."

"Or Maybe the universe is like a giant mirror. But nothing was reflected
in it because there were no other mirrors or anything else about… so it decided to break itself into millions and millions and billions of little pieces, so that it could finally see itself reflected back to it in those billions of tiny pieces."


...
Then the main character discovers that the other characters she was perceiving were just reflections (literally and figuratively) of her own self. The play was done with object puppetry, so the main character was both the story-teller and manipulator (i.e. moved the mirror-puppets) and creator, yet she didn't realize it... til then, when she takes a closer look at the other character-mirror-puppets, and sees herself reflected back.

She then realizes that we're all made up of the same bits and pieces and stuff, and are simply part of one greater whole. ... and that we are the creators of our own reality.


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Just writing this so Rachelle is sandwiched between my posts.

Twisted, I know ;-).
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Old 08-05-2010, 06:50 PM   #68 (permalink)
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Rachelle, that was awesome. I love your writing style.
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Just writing this so Rachelle is sandwiched between my posts.

Twisted, I know ;-).
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Mmmm. A Rachelle Sandwich. Sounds yummy!

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Old 08-05-2010, 07:03 PM   #70 (permalink)
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What resources are you accessing at any given time? "The minute you think you know, is the minute the universes knows you don't know"
"Tune into the unified field to have full access to awareness" "worldbridger asks us to end any block to our consciousness" "when you think you have it figured out you stop looking"

This podcast is from 8/1/2010

Universal Traveller

Oh, right now in astrology is a huge triggering to switch modalities. Now is a time of pressure, and denial and escapism won't help.

I see it as so powerful that this brain shift (this move to a higher level, or quantum level paradigm shift) for steve and the ripple effects that are spreading out are happening with this new year. The TLC conference happened during the time of purification at the end of the year.

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Old 08-05-2010, 07:08 PM   #71 (permalink)
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Just writing this so Rachelle is sandwiched between my posts.

Twisted, I know ;-).
Ha! I like your style. that's good stuff right there.
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Old 08-05-2010, 07:36 PM   #72 (permalink)
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Wow, you would not believe the amount of synchronisities in this post...I'm not even sure I'll go into them, because literally every sentence had some sort of parallel with something I'd been experimenting with, even some exact matches to something I'd experienced, or some just odd synch. For instance, the fact that you bought 3 bottles of wine. I had just woken up from a night-time dream where I did just that, even though I never drink. Every sentence felt like that.
I was also interested to see how you've been handling SR and diet, and enjoy that explanation (which was also a parallel).
There was also an incredible sense of Love to this article, did anyone else feel it? Reading it, I just felt energy radiating out from the page and swirling around me...the whole post was a 'wow moment' for me.


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Mmmm. A Rachelle Sandwich. Sounds yummy!

Mmm, that does sound yummy.

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Old 08-05-2010, 07:46 PM   #73 (permalink)
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I love this entry. It bent up my brain and unkinked my heart.
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There was also an incredible sense of Love to this article, did anyone else feel it? Reading it, I just felt energy radiating out from the page and swirling around me...the whole post was a 'wow moment' for me.
Yes, I found myself teary reading it, though I couldn't pinpoint any one thing that hit me particularly strongly. It's just this WHOOMPH of love.
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Really this song is riddled with other subjective reality references too. "Nobody on the road, nobody on the beach" = no real bodies there b/c you're dreaming. "The summer's out of reach" = you're asleep.
I keep wanting to take over this thread by commenting further on my song as this has been with me all day, after I made my post about the loneliness of the imagery. I realized there actually is nobody in this song at all except the singer. He goes on about how he can see the woman he loves smiling at "everyone" and so on, but it's all in his mind. He's already said there's "nobody" on the beach or on the road, so when he "sees" her in her car or walking on the beach smiling at people, he's imagining it.

Eeek.
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It appears there are a lot more rabbits down here than there were a few days ago.

Welcome, bunnies!
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moonrambler...

I can tell you
my love for you will still be strong
after the boys of summer have gone.

If you're alone, what is there? Love. If you're surrounded by people, what is there? Love.
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It's just this WHOOMPH of love.
Yeah, I could really feel that.
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It appears there are a lot more rabbits down here than there were a few days ago.
Oh, it's really nice down there! Lots of love down there.
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I grew up in a home where the words “I love you” were never spoken (or at least I don’t recall hearing them). Hugs didn’t happen except on special occasions, and only with visiting relatives. My physical needs were abundantly satisfied, but as a child, I didn’t feel loved or cared for.
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I have vague memories of being sensitive, loving, and compassionate as a young child, but by the time I was six years old, I had picked up too many emotional scars… and a physical scar as well from when I was stabbed. That scar on my right arm is still visible today
That's exactly what my childhood was like, except for the fact, that my physical needs were not always abundantly satisfied...

Funnily enough, I also have a scar on my right arm. But it was a burn, not a stab.
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Steve;

I came across another thread where you made mention of the "Subjective Relationships" blog. It mentioned it took 7 hours of writing and editing on your part.

I was, and still am over flowing with appreciation, and gratitude. Thank you, thank you, thank you. In truth, there are no words to describe the deep appreciation I have for you, and your wonderful creations.

It's about an intent as pure as the new fallen snow, and about a man in a life or death struggle for his freedom. The credit for victory in this days' battle, in large part, belongs to you my friend.

Again, thank you.
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How cool that this is the form my next revelation takes.

Thank you, Steve.

I love us!
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I love this!
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Welcome, bunnies!
They have been waiting on you
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Anything over four rabbits is a thousand.
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I like to create 7 rabbits before breakfast.
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And I know you're interested in The Seven Rabbits of Highly Effective People.
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*groan*

You just made me laugh out loud in the coffee shop I'm in.
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I know. I definitely am! Especially the rabbit that hops all over the place.
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My mom used to make this stuff called Welsh (or Welch not sure) Rabbit. It was this cheesey kind of sauce that you pour over crackers (oyster crackers were the best with this).

Absolutely amazing.
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