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Old 08-02-2010, 05:30 PM   #91 (permalink)
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Is this "dream" actually reality or just another illusion of reality? Does it even matter? That we don't know yet, but we can hope for the best of results, whatever that may be.
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Is this "dream" actually reality or just another illusion of reality? Does it even matter? That we don't know yet, but we can hope for the best of results, whatever that may be.
when one "wakes up" from this dream, what do they wake up to?
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when one "wakes up" from this dream, what do they wake up to?
A different dream perhaps?
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when one "wakes up" from this dream, what do they wake up to?
Emptiness, naturally.
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Old 08-02-2010, 09:37 PM   #97 (permalink)
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hahaha Steve that is so funny, you must have felt pretty inspired there huh?
This npc thinks you're on the right track!
I suppose you could have called that inspiration . . . . I call it uh, something else entirely.

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Steve my own story is too much to tell right now, but I just wanted to tell you that your latest posts have resonated with me tremendously. In the last couple of weeks inspiration and my own version of subjective truth have been taking up more and more space in my own life. (I just found out about your trial yesterday as I needed to catch up around here.) I saw so many little "whoa" things in the last several blog posts, just as you predicted.

And finally, as long as people know you are doing a subjective CGW, then who cares? You're going to get a lot of people who never went before because they think you're good-crazy. If people have fair warning, it's their bad if they run out screaming, right?

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Steve my own story is too much to tell right now, but I just wanted to tell you that your latest posts have resonated with me tremendously. In the last couple of weeks inspiration and my own version of subjective truth have been taking up more and more space in my own life. (I just found out about your trial yesterday as I needed to catch up around here.) I saw so many little "whoa" things in the last several blog posts, just as you predicted.

And finally, as long as people know you are doing a subjective CGW, then who cares? You're going to get a lot of people who never went before because they think you're good-crazy. If people have fair warning, it's their bad if they run out screaming, right?

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Inspiration flows through the heart... but doesn't always originate there.
You know, some people abstain from that certain activity during peak times of creativity so it can, uh, explode upon the page instead . . . .
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Not to divert the thread from this exciting topic, but I just wanted to say that the signs of subjective reality are starting to come in. Or rather they've been there a lot but I'm starting to notice them more prominently. The radio in all of it's various forms have been showcasing my thoughts. If I had been thinking romantic thoughts recently, I'd turn on the radio and a love song would either be playing or start playing. It's been the same with other thoughts as well. Romantic are the ones that pop up most frequently, though, but that's probably my fault.

It's been a little freaky, honestly.
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Not to divert the thread from this exciting topic, but I just wanted to say that the signs of subjective reality are starting to come in. Or rather they've been there a lot but I'm starting to notice them more prominently. The radio in all of it's various forms have been showcasing my thoughts. If I had been thinking romantic thoughts recently, I'd turn on the radio and a love song would either be playing or start playing. It's been the same with other thoughts as well. Romantic are the ones that pop up most frequently, though, but that's probably my fault.

It's been a little freaky, honestly.
Start asking questions and opening books or turning on the TV. You'll start getting answers. Even fortune cookies will actually start having fortunes in them. You'll think of a question or comment and a random person will start answering it before you even open your mouth. It's really freaky stuff. Your weaknesses will come out in the open for you and everyone to see, too. That's always fun. Which ones? The ones you've been hiding from yourself and others. Paraphrasing I wrote on Facebook:

"[You are] consciously realizing the rules of [your] own subjective reality and pruning through the emotional deadwood to find the shoots of positive emotional and spiritual growth. It's a roller coaster emotionally because it is a trial by fire. Generally speaking, realizing you're living -- not one lie, thousands and thousands of lies built upon a few core ones -- that have controlled you over most of your lifetime is an incredibly humbling and painful experience. But realizing you CAN break through it, and even better, help others break through their own lies -- that is the Joy that results from this experience."
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Eagerly awaiting another blog post. I'm really curious to learn more about this experiment and where Steve ends up.

Funny, nothing in my life has changed and yet I feel I've been cast adrift or something. I wonder where I'll end up.
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Old 08-04-2010, 12:36 AM   #106 (permalink)
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I think you need to be careful with this current experiment regarding inspiration and the subjective slant you are adopting. I can speak from experience on this.

Living a subjective existence is a wonderful thing for a time, but when I did it exlusively it made my behaviour so worrying and out of place to others (who don’t understand the mindset) that I ended up in a psyciatric unit for five weeks. The night I manifested its full power for the first time I was literally shaking like I’d been electricuted. In restrospect that was my first kundalini awakening. Because I had ended up in hospital I viewed the experience as bad which led me to abandon the beliefs that had led me there. In turn this led to 18 months of clinical unipolar depression, a place I am NEVER going back to. It’s like Phillip Pullman says in His Darkest Materials. “where does the blade of a knife end”? I was left with a world that was empty, as that which I did thereafter during this time was not my will, but that of others.

By implication, living a subjective life means you are God. Those who you speak to externally in the objective sense become your thoughts. They are a part of you. I believe God (for want of a term) is your thoughts, your mind, cause effect, intention manifestation, particals interacting at a quantum level in mind of entanglement. Time. I can say vice versa from my own point of view. You are me. I am you. I seem to recall you posting on subjective reality a few years back and you stopped short of taking on the God mindset. And yet this is what subjectivity is in its truist sense. You becoming one.

After God said let there be light what was the second thing he did? Split the world into night and day. Night and day is like saying cause effect, ying and yang, war peace, subjective objective. It’s Hegels dialectic process in action. Even from an athiest existentialist point of view the way out of an existential crisis (think “The Scream” painting by Edward Munch), when all becomes absurd, as it will without structure of some kind, the way out is to impose structure of your own choosing, but still a structure, that you can act within.

Balance is the issue here. Existence is electric, energy, movement. Even in stillness your thoughts are moving and subject to the same universal laws. Metaphor, allegory and so on remains steady at whatever level you come to it from, subjectively or objectively. It’s just a matter of depth. You change but you remain the same. Existence ‘is’ - otherwise these words would not be. I think therefore I am, can also be I am therefore I think. Anything can be logically argued in the mind depending on ones bias. Like in your subjectivity post you could literally fly. But could you escape memories of an objective way of thinking where trying to fly is not possible? Could you truly escape such doubt, however small? Orwells interrigation scene in 1984 is interesting in this regard. You would have had to have been born into and have only ever lived a subjective life where everybody else flys as a matter of normality to be able to fly anew. Of course it then being something normal flying would then fall into the objective worldview. An understanding that the world is round was once a view that would have been considered subjective.

You are concerned that your experiment in inspiration means you can’t plan ahead. Yes you can. The only difference is that the planning becomes a whim as well. Short term goals as such are still feasible, and you already have your longer term goals in place and in mind subconsciously from having put them in place before you started this experiment. Like when you did your polyphaisc sleep experiment you reached a stage where the clutter of thoughts in your mind became clear and you acted on instinct and you just knew what needed to be done. This is the same. This is how subjective whims manifest. Except they are not whims really, just cause effect at the quantum level. The law of attraction is simply the accumulation and habit of repeated whims and enthusiasms. The snowball effect.

Equilibrium is key here. Sometimes living life subjectively is right, sometimes objectively is right, sometimes a blend of the two is right. Look at an electric plug. For it to be safe it needs to be grounded, otherwise it will just burn itself out too fast and be dangerous and destructive. Too much power tends to result in an explosion or fire.

For the record, since I adopted such a mindset I cured my uniploar depression overnight and last month took my first holiday for 16 years (Prague). I have recaptured the energy and enthusiams of my teenage years combined with the accumulated wisdom of my adult life to date. Things are changing at last. The subjective is the objective and vice versa. You blend them to your needs.
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Honestly, I haven't really felt a lot of connection to Steve's posts since about the beginning of 2009. Which is OK, but just felt like we were on different paths compared to Pre-2009 Steve.

Now with the latest 2010 Steve I am once again feeling a much closer connection.

Once again I have stuff channel through, write it in my journal, get on my computer and end up finding Steve having already written about it, LOL.

That used to happen a lot, then it stopped, now it's back again.

I've been going through a lot of the same stuff as Steve lately, meaning letting go of Planning stuff especially and just going with the flow.

Last Friday, for example, I decided to write down all of my most important life goals I've had for years - some for decades - and I burned them in a goal-burning ceremony. (Video here: No Goals – I Burned Them | ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.com )

Since then I've had no goals. I wake up every morning for the last 4 days with no clue what I'm doing, lol.

It's so freeing and awesome. I love it.

I totally believe in SR too. I totally know Steve is just a figment of my imagination.
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I think I should start taking notes on this subject, since Rachelle seems to be such an expert.
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I think you need to be careful with this current experiment regarding inspiration and the subjective slant you are adopting. I can speak from experience on this.

Living a subjective existence is a wonderful thing for a time, but when I did it exlusively it made my behaviour so worrying and out of place to others (who don’t understand the mindset) that I ended up in a psyciatric unit for five weeks.
There are several people on this forum who have already been to the psychiatric ward and are doing just fine now. It turns out it was the doctors who were crazy. So thank you for your warning, but I think Steve has enough common sense where to draw the line.
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There are several people on this forum who have already been to the psychiatric ward and are doing just fine now. It turns out it was the doctors who were crazy. So thank you for your warning, but I think Steve has enough common sense where to draw the line.
Mmmmm hmmmmmmm.
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You're just crazy, Angela! Crazy! LOL.
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You know, some people abstain from that certain activity during peak times of creativity so it can, uh, explode upon the page instead . . . .

... why would someone want a sticky mess to explode upon the page?
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as opposed to where, Rachelle? O:-)
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Since then I've had no goals. I wake up every morning for the last 4 days with no clue what I'm doing, lol.

It's so freeing and awesome. I love it.

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It's fantastic! What's even better is I go to bed without burdening myself with what I'm going to do the next day. I still catch myself planning my following day, then I remind myself that I'll do whatever the heck I feel inspired to do when the time comes. It seems counter-intuitive, but it gets me feeling more fulfilled at the end of the day. I procrastinate less, cuz there's nothing to procrastinate.

Like I was saying to someone the other day, it's like having the effects of meditation without actually meditating. It feels so present to be this way.
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as opposed to where, Rachelle? O:-)
Oh... there are *so* many yummy possibilities...
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Well, now that we know it's yummy-flavored *takes notes* . . .
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