Are You a Lightworker or a Darkworker? (Blog)

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by Fusebox

I want to chip in. I believe you must first master being a darkworker, then with age, experience, wisdom, etc, you will changeover to become a lightworker.

For example, I think many of us here on this forum dream of helping the less fortunate in great capacity, unfortunately however, we need to build our own solid foundation(s) before we can start supporting others around us.

Anakin Skywalker was a darkworker, but ultimately triumphed as a lightworker

Yup! I see it this way too!

After all how can someone give something they don't already have or already give to themselves?

So be a darkworker to gather the energy and once you know what that is, you can share it out - or stay "stuck" as a darkworker (as is being implied that it's just as effective to stay a darkworker).

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by Dave Kaminski

Although our surroundings lead us to believe that darkworker first may lead to lightworker, if you make it a conscious decision you can prove the habitual mind wrong!

If one looks at nature one can see that life starts as a darkworker energy. Like seed sprouts take in energy until they are more mature and then provide, produce.

Maybe one can start right away with the lightworker energy, but if one does start with the lightworker energy the dark energies are still included, in my mind, as part of being a lightworker. That is one has to take care of the goose that lays the golden eggs. (The goose being self-interest darkwork and the golden eggs the lightworker's giving.)

[Apollo Kid]

I think this whole darkworker/lightworker dichotomy is a false one.

If our thoughts and intentions manifest into our reality, and the "subjective reality" model that is proposed is correct, then the dichotomy between dark and light is nonexistant.

This is because the universe is ultimately an expression of the individual, and vice versa. And other people are also an expression of the individual, which is again a reflection of the greater consciousness that is the universe.

Of course, one can choose to either serve oneself, or serve the whole, but I think an individual with a certain amount of consciousness will realize that the endpoint is ultimately the same.

One can choose to direct energy towards themselves, or towards others, but ultimately, both the individual and the collective must be nurtured.

The ego is an important vehicle for us to use to experience reality, and we must support that through self-serving actions. But we must also contribute to the reality of others if we are navigate through the world effectively.

So why put these things into dualisms? Serve all, serve one. Ultimately they are one in the same. At least this is what Steve has claimed in other blog postings...

[fretho]

Originally Posted by Apollo Kid

So why put these things into dualisms? Serve all, serve one. Ultimately they are one in the same. At least this is what Steve has claimed in other blog postings...

This may be a false dichotomy on an intellectual level, but does that mean it is not useful on an emotional level? One of my biggest hurdles in life is getting motivated. I now realize that so many times it has been primarily a matter of not fearing what others expect me to fear. Fear energy, competition, self-interest, etc. is next to useless for me with my present mindset. If I want to do something and have the drive to follow through on it, it has to be because I feel it will bring about the greater good. Thoughts that feel too selfish or fearful drain me and make me want to procrastinate.

Another thing is I think you can have a love-motivated STS, or a fear-motivated STO. In fact, our society encourages this. If you don't take care of yourself, others who love you will feel pity. Therefore, love can motivate us to take care of ourselves so that others won't feel bad. And if you act too selfish, others will despise you. Therefore, self-interest can motivate us to be kind to others.

Perhaps there is a state of enlightened greyness where you utilize both motivations in equal proportion. Enlightened dark or light would also lead to a good balance of STS/STO, however, because both can and will be rationalized from either motive by an intelligent person.

[DrFredbert]

Originally Posted by Apollo Kid

I think this whole darkworker/lightworker dichotomy is a false one.

I agree.

At most, the lightworker versus darkworker thing provides a boosted sense of worth. In my opinion this is largely a ego based distinction similar to the Left-Hand or Right-Hand paths in the occult. The idea of working for the greater good of all presupposes that your view of what is right corresponds to your neighbors. This type of thought fosters persecution and division if taken to its extreme.

This is not to say that Steve is not a lightworker, nor does it suppose that there is no such thing as a darkworker. I'm only implying that both of these terms are simply titles on the same scale as shirts and skins. It only applies to those playing the game.

[1000feet]

Originally Posted by songwriter

Yes, just like Star Wars, so Carl Jung and collective unconscious ("The Force") and synchronicities....

I think all my life I wanted to follow the "lightworker" way... I mean I wanted to be a successful musician BUT doing things I really like... and refusing to do certain kinds of music. I refused quite a long time ago a producer who wanted to turn my songs into somewhat... crappy songs. It could have given me money but not happiness.

Songwriter, I've seen you say things like this in other threads and I think you're looking at it the wrong way. If you want to decide between making the music you want and making more money, polarity doesn't really matter.

If you chose to control your music completely, you could be doing it from a "darkworker" polarity to make yourself happy and just write for yourself, or you could be doing it from a "lightworker" polarity to give the world something good and entertain those who aren't happy with commercial music.

If you choose to earn more money, you could be doing that with a "darkworker" polarity so you can be better off and buy more expensive things. You could also be doing it with a "lightworker" polarity so you could use your money and fame to bring attention and help to people who can't help themselves.

Steve's latest post reinforces my point. As he says, the content of the decision doesn't matter; each decision can be done with both polarities, and each polarity can support both decisions. Choosing your polarity and choosing to "sell out" or not are actually separate decisions; you just have to go with whichever combination feels best for you.

In the end, polarity probably won't make a big difference in how you decide things like this. Steve is just saying that if you do everything with the same polarity you eventually get much better at doing what you decide to do (I haven't experienced this yet). The point isn't to change your decisions, it's to put the right kind of energy behind them so you're motivated to accomplish your goals and you can use the law of attraction more effectively.

[Whitehealer]

I was excited by the recent book by Harry Jim called Wise Secrets of Aloha. I believe it may be the first book written by a native Hawaiian Kahuna.
It really clarifies the critical distinction between the dark path of power and the light path of serving other beings.

The question is "Am I enough?"

"If the answer is a definite yes, then the path is service, If the answer is even the slightest vibration of "No, I am not" then that's the path of power. Of trying, trying, trying to be enough, to have enough power."

Got to appreciate the philosophy of a culture that manifests and maintains paradise.

[Dan.Linehan]

Originally Posted by Whitehealer

I was excited by the recent book by Harry Jim called Wise Secrets of Aloha. I believe it may be the first book written by a native Hawaiian Kahuna.
It really clarifies the critical distinction between the dark path of power and the light path of serving other beings.

The question is "Am I enough?"

"If the answer is a definite yes, then the path is service, If the answer is even the slightest vibration of "No, I am not" then that's the path of power. Of trying, trying, trying to be enough, to have enough power."

Got to appreciate the philosophy of a culture that manifests and maintains paradise.

I like this perspective a lot. Right now I feel like I finally am enough. =)

I think I would have got here a lot quicker though if I had been more competitve (darkworker) over the last few years about protecting what was mine and growing my financies. I let a lot of people walk all over on me, because they acted like they needed help from me, and it stunted me for years.

Basically, compete hard (and ethically) to get to where you can truly be at peace and happy. Then relax, and share as much as you can, as smartly as you can, while protecting the peace that you've secured.

[skydust]

im not sure what to think of this idea of polarization.. i was under the impression that the point was to unify, not polarize. if we polarize dont we just reaffirm separation? isnt the point to unify to neutral, to be one whole?

[songwriter]

Originally Posted by wolfgang

Now how would it be to apply polarity in this case? Does that mean not focusing on taking any action to sell your music?

Is this forums saying that if you forgo any focus on selling your music and devote your attention to just creating the sounds and sharing them, being an artist only, that you will be more effective with your music?

If so, does that seem to be a way to empower someone?

Artist versus salesman, but never in ths same person? Maybe there's something to that - great artists need managers to do the darkwork of selling you. But isn't that a limiting thoguht? A belief that noone can be both an artist and manger at the smae time, to it's fullest extennt?

Jack of all trades, master of none.
Or expert at this one or two things, and know not much else.
Or master of many things - like a renisaunce man/woman?

Yes, exactly no-one is able to be an artist and a manager at the same time, as far as I know. I have talked with similar musicians and they all have a creative block when they are promoting themselves.

Well, If I applied light polarity to my music... I would give my songs for free, reaching a few, and with a lower budget that If I was signed (but with greater artistic freedom). I already do this, and doesn't mean much to me. I don't think is worth to record some songs, to register them, etc. for a small audience... Well yes, it's worth it. But it's not a great thing... it's payed because I know some people like it, and that's all.

It is somehow like when you post here or anywhere and you sometimes help people doing it.

If I go dark I would do anything the companies would want (...) and maybe I would reach many... but in a way I don't like...
You know, the dark side is a faster way... but not the best way.

Music business is a very strange thing to analyse because music are feelings mostly. It's a fine line between heaven or hell in music business. I know that If I will "sell out" it wouldn't be good for me, maybe for others, but not for me.
So, I'm still here and 97% of my music is only on my head.

[songwriter]

Originally Posted by Cael

I think it's supposed to be like this...

Are you writing the songs to touch others' soul? Or are you writing the songs to express yourself? Either can work. Your songs to touch other souls may be easily understood and felt, and people would love it. Your songs that's written with your feelings, could be so intense and so deep, that whoever that's stuck in the same situation would love it too.

I think that both ways are just the same. You're only gonna reach the other if you truely express yourself. An artist has to go deep inside of himself then he finds things that reach the other and show how we are and how life is.

[1000feet]

Originally Posted by songwriter

Yes, exactly no-one is able to be an artist and a manager at the same time, as far as I know. I have talked with similar musicians and they all have a creative block when they are promoting themselves.

Maybe it's just that no one has succeeded yet. I know a lot of programmers are scared of "business" and just want to sit in front of a computer all day, but there are good programmers who can sell their products (see Steve's previous life). I hope to do something like this - I'm sure there will always be better programmers than me, but I wouldn't say that I'll ever be bad at it.

Originally Posted by songwriter

Well, If I applied light polarity to my music... I would give my songs for free, reaching a few, and with a lower budget that If I was signed (but with greater artistic freedom). I already do this, and doesn't mean much to me. I don't think is worth to record some songs, to register them, etc. for a small audience... Well yes, it's worth it. But it's not a great thing... it's payed because I know some people like it, and that's all.

What if you used a light polarity to choose to become wealthy and then use your money to help others? In that case selling out would be the "light" decision. In fact, some would even argue that this is a more valuable service than entertaining people. Not liking something doesn't make it a "dark" choice.

Originally Posted by songwriter

If I go dark I would do anything the companies would want (...) and maybe I would reach many... but in a way I don't like... You know, the dark side is a faster way... but not the best way.

It sounds like your goal is to reach as many people as possible. In this case the way you decide to work at this isn't necessarily on the light side or dark side. Polarity would apply more to the reason that you want to reach people. Is it to make their lives better, or so you can do something you enjoy all the time?

[yuri110v]

After doing the "how to find your purpose in life in 20 minutes" excercise, the answer to which i came was "to fill the lives of the deprived people with joy & happiness" Does that make me a lightworker for sure???