Darkworker manifesting love

[wayne]

I am starting this thread to ask and share how us darkworkers may manifest love, serenity, peace, calm, and all those other (pleasant) feelings normally associated with the "lightworker" side. Why? Why else would a darkworker do anything? For his/her own benefit and increase of power!

I am what Steve calls a "darkworker" yet in my life is constant love, happiness and serenity. I consciously pull in love, peace and happiness into my life. Every act I do I make sure that it is in line with my goal of manifesting more love into my life. I use my polarity by using the motivation of greed to pull in more and even more love, happiness, peace, serenity, ext. I am clear that everything I do should be to pull in more love into my life for the benefit of myself first and foremost. I am motivated by the fear that I will have less love tomorrow than I do today. This way each day I consciously manifest more and more love into my life.

Basically instead of pulling in money, cars, or even power into my life, I am using the "dark side" to pull in love, happiness, harmony, and peace into MY life for ME (hence the greed motivation). Because my life is constantly full of love others may benefit because its so nice to be around me but this is not at all my main goal or motivation.

Any other ideas or tricks in pulling in love from a "inward polarity" or "darkworker" perspective?


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[wolfgang]

I'm not sure why I'm not getting this polarity stuff but here's how I think after reading your post.

If you are a darkworker that is focused on getting more love because you are polarized to get love but not return love, then I don't see how others are receiving any love from you.

I suppposed once you bump up against some uncomfortable pressure from the love ones that are giving love to you, you yeek out some love reluctantly towards them.

And so the darkworker has to compensate the polairty every once and a while to keep from being all clogged up. I don't see how a darkworker can let the giving occur is he/she is polarized. Once the darkworker gives some up, the polarizing is gone - oh no, he/she slipped into the lightworker side.

It also seem pretty constricted to be motivated by fear of lack, of future loss that make you want to make sure you get more and more love. That seems to go against many things I've read about fear (probably even Steve wrote about) being a cutting of off feelings that help LoA kick in. Fear of lack of love is the kind of vibe (from what I've read about LoA/IM) is a focus on lack, which supposednly brings more lack to you.

I just can't seem to get the polarized ideas. I only see it as blockage type stuff when the darkworker is polarized he/she is blocking the giving, once the giving happens there's no polarization.

Same with a lightworker. Once the lightworker starts to receive too, the polarization goes out the window. And, Steve's blogs say things, like, a lightworker needs to be able to receive as well to keep from being a lightworker syndrom patient.

[Baltar]

Originally Posted by wolfgang

If you are a darkworker that is focused on getting more love because you are polarized to get love but not return love, then I don't see how others are receiving any love from you.

I suppposed once you bump up against some uncomfortable pressure from the love ones that are giving love to you, you yeek out some love reluctantly towards them.

A darkworker still has to provide something to get what they want. My understanding is that the results accomplished by a lightworker or darkworker are often exactly the same. It's just that the motivations are different. A lightworker thinks "I'm going to give this person love and things will take care of themselves." A darkworker thinks "how can I make this person love me?" A darkworker is just as capable of giving love as a lightworker, but they do it because their goal is to get love in return. If they didn't think they could get love in return, they wouldn't bother. A lightworker would love regardless of this though.

Originally Posted by wolfgang

It also seem pretty constricted to be motivated by fear of lack, of future loss that make you want to make sure you get more and more love. That seems to go against many things I've read about fear (probably even Steve wrote about) being a cutting of off feelings that help LoA kick in. Fear of lack of love is the kind of vibe (from what I've read about LoA/IM) is a focus on lack, which supposednly brings more lack to you.

Being a darkworker doesn't mean living in fear or being motivated by fear of lack. That's a lower level of consciousness. A true darkworker has to be at the level of courage. I like the way Steve put it -- a darkworker believes that fear is something to be conquered and channeled into energy, and a lightworker believes that fear is just an illusion and ultimately doesn't exist, thus drawing energy from love. Both can be used to get a lot of the same results though.

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by Baltar

A darkworker still has to provide something to get what they want. My understanding is that the results accomplished by a lightworker or darkworker are often exactly the same. It's just that the motivations are different. A lightworker thinks "I'm going to give this person love and things will take care of themselves." A darkworker thinks "how can I make this person love me?" A darkworker is just as capable of giving love as a lightworker, but they do it because their goal is to get love in return. If they didn't think they could get love in return, they wouldn't bother. A lightworker would love regardless of this though.

OK, I need to separate something to get it. It's the goal that is polarized not the experience nor the operating actions, then. So the darkworker's only goal is to get love. But while they get love, the giving love is like a side effect or a nesecary part of the equation to get the goal. It still begs the question - how does the darkworker give love? How is that side of the equation taken care of? How does something happen with no focus or goal focused on it? And what kind of attitude is the darkworker going to have with giving love? Is it restrained becuase the focus is only on getting love, not giving.

It seems a little strange to be thinking it's better to polarize with love. OK, I'll apply what you wrote. It's ok to totally focus on the goal of getting love, because really what happens during the interaction is you'd have to give love anyway.

I don't see how this approach would help someone be able to give love. I really don't. I mean, it's been said - let the universe take care of the other side of the polarization, so while one is totally focused on getting love - how does the giving happen? And as human nature goes if one is not used to giving love it's even harder to give if that's not a goal.

I think some people may read this stuff and come to the conclusion to become darkworkers and think they are wonderfull and end up kind of abusing someone because their bf/gf isn't getting any love in return and they have to pull it out of the darkworker or are very silent about it. And the darkworker can get stuck in the polarization for real (no love flowing out). I really hope people aren't doing this because it sounds dangerous to mental health.

Drat, I thought I understanded...

Originally Posted by Baltar

Being a darkworker doesn't mean living in fear or being motivated by fear of lack. That's a lower level of consciousness. A true darkworker has to be at the level of courage. I like the way Steve put it -- a darkworker believes that fear is something to be conquered and channeled into energy, and a lightworker believes that fear is just an illusion and ultimately doesn't exist, thus drawing energy from love. Both can be used to get a lot of the same results though.

Is using fear as channeled into energy different than being motivated by fear? I mean, to use fear's energy one would have to be feeling it, which sounds like it's part of the equation.

[Baltar]

Originally Posted by wolfgang

Drat, I thought I understanded...

I'm still working on fully understanding this as well. Polarization seems to be a powerful but elusive concept.

Is using fear as channeled into energy different than being motivated by fear? I mean, to use fear's energy one would have to be feeling it, which sounds like it's part of the equation.

Of course it's different. Think of it this way -- being motivated by fear means being controlled by fear. A darkworker on the other hand, takes control of fear instead of being controlled by it. A darkworker acknowledges that fear is real, but seeks to conquer and tame it. A darkworker classifies courage as the conquering of fear, and it's this courage that ultimately allows a darkworker to accomplish their goals. But without fear, this definition of courage would not be possible.

Imagine a person running from a fierce lion. This person is being motivated by fear. This person believes that the lion will eat them if they don't keep running. Now imagine a different person in a similar situation, except that this person stands up to the lion, dominates him, and makes him their servant. The fear (lion) is still technically there but your relationship with it is very different.

In the above situation, a lightworker would simply say "there is no spoon" and the lion would disappear. Ultimately people using either approach are not victims of fear. To me it feels like different approaches to martial arts. I know there are martial arts which rely on force and domination to beat your opponent (active), and also those that use your opponent's energy against them (passive). And to me that's kind of like what lightworker and darkworker classifications are.

[Kingston]

This is how a darkworker gives love.

It is not the case that a darkworker never gives. That would imply that a lightworker never receives, and that is not so. Just remember that the one flow is generated by yourself, and the return flow is response to that. If the dark one 'takes' from their lover, SOMETHING will flow back. If nothing flows back to the lover, they lose the lover, and this is the karmic payment that was due. But lets assume something flows back to the lover:

A darkworker wants the person to be with him or her for some reason; it might be sexual or aesthetic pleasure, fear of not being recognized as important, or they want to be seen with this person in public. Or they simply enjoy to see them happy, knowing they are the cause of this happiness, and is thus a reflection of their own beauty and power. Notice that this last effect resembles lightworker love, but has a different WHY behind it.

To enjoy the company of their lover, they will have to make sure he or she is satisfied enough to stay around. So if they are not giving to them because they just like watching them being happy, other possibilities exist. Their lover has hopes and fears (unless they are enlightened, but that is a one in a million event). They can know these with the probable dark insight they have in the beloved. They know them and can control them, so they can take away the fears and fulfill the hopes, provided they have enough power. This will make them extremely attractive to anyone with a lower or equal level of consciousness.

So in short, darkworkers protect or care for the people the want to be with for whatever reason. They give them what they know their lovers want, so they can take what they want from them.

We can look at the ideal case as a thought experiment: Think of two exactly the same relationships. Viewed from the outside, the behavior is the same, the talk is the same. If we look inside the minds, we see EXACTLY the same intentions. The amount of energy flowing is the same. ONE thing is different: the DIRECTION of the flow. Like a circle going clockwise or counterclockwise. It has no net effect on the flow. This is somewhat abstract, but I hope I have made things clearer.

Only at lower levels the relationship can become unworthy. The same with lightworkers.

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by Kingston

Or they simply enjoy to see them happy, knowing they are the cause of this happiness, and is thus a reflection of their own beauty and power. Notice that this last effect resembles lightworker love, but has a different WHY behind it.

So lightworkers also want others to be happy but for a different reason. What is that reason difference?

Knowing that someone else is a cause of their happiness sounds like codependance and is usually thought of as unhealthy or something to grow from.

To enjoy the company of their lover, they will have to make sure he or she is satisfied enough to stay around. So if they are not giving to them because they just like watching them being happy, other possibilities exist. Their lover has hopes and fears (unless they are enlightened, but that is a one in a million event). They can know these with the probable dark insight they have in the beloved. They know them and can control them, so they can take away the fears and fulfill the hopes, provided they have enough power. This will make them extremely attractive to anyone with a lower or equal level of consciousness.

Yikes, know them and control them! How does that help flow of love and intentions of having a harmonious relationship?

So in short, darkworkers protect or care for the people the want to be with for whatever reason. They give them what they know their lovers want, so they can take what they want from them.

This sounds like more game playing. Giving so that they can also take that away or stop that - sounds like manipulating behaviour. Why is this a good idea to guide people into applying?

We can look at the ideal case as a thought experiment: Think of two exactly the same relationships. Viewed from the outside, the behavior is the same, the talk is the same. If we look inside the minds, we see EXACTLY the same intentions. The amount of energy flowing is the same. ONE thing is different: the DIRECTION of the flow. Like a circle going clockwise or counterclockwise. It has no net effect on the flow. This is somewhat abstract, but I hope I have made things clearer.

The direction of the flow changes? That actually contradicts my thoughts that there is always inflow and outflow and as such their directions are their own particular way. The inflow does change to outflow. Wouldn't you think?

Only at lower levels the relationship can become unworthy. The same with lightworkers.

Anyway, I had an image that there is a flow and it's going out of you as well as coming into you. And if you aren't blocked you are not in danger of becoming a self deystoying darkworker or a drained lightworker. So there's already a natural give and take that is there when things are healthy.

Now for this nutty image. Imagine there a pumps for the inflow and outflow. The inflow pump sucks energy to you, then outflow blows energy out of you. The darkworker plays with the pump that sucks in and almost lets the outflow pump just be idle but not blocked. And then the lightworker maintains and keeps the outflow blower going and lets the sucker be idle and not blocked and energy does get in.

However I don't really get what the perceice qualities of the sucking pump are and the blowing out pump are. Or why turning on both pumps would cause a "cancelling out" of the intentions. It seems that you could have some really great flow if both the sucker and blower pumps were operating in syncronization.

[siamesesilk]

Imagine a person running from a fierce lion. This person is being motivated by fear. This person believes that the lion will eat them if they don't keep running. Now imagine a different person in a similar situation, except that this person stands up to the lion, dominates him, and makes him their servant. The fear (lion) is still technically there but your relationship with it is very different.

This reminds me of Life of Pi. A favorite.

[Kingston]

@ Wolfgang
The WHY both polarities is experiencing intense and pleasant emotion. It is about feeling good. Psychological hedonism. People who don't choose or have not yet polarized that much wil feel confused and contradictory. They feel bad.


And there is always co-dependence. This is the nature of human society. It is an opportunity for happiness for both polarities... You get it, right?

Yes, know them and control them. This sounds obscene to a non polarized person or low consciousness lightworker, but it is the nature of relationships, also those of lightworkers, but from a completely different perspective. I intuit that a great philosopher or psychologist could reduce every possible behavior to it. Love is not a necessity for harmony. Besides, harmony is debilitating to a developed darkworker; he or she craves tension in order to feel relief.

It is game playing. Very perceptive of you! Its application is only a good idea for a darkworker.

The flowing part of the theory is really tricky. Even Steve has trouble bringing the point home. It certainly is beyond my frame of explanation, but I can FEEL its truth with every fiber of my being. When I take the content of an intention in mind, whether its an image, sound, whatever sensation, I feel incredible when I perceive it coming towards me and close to me. It is a very fire-like, greedy, sexual sensation.. I love it. I take action automatically.

I advise anyone to grasp the theory FROM THE INSIDE OUT, like Steve mentioned in the past. If you are developed enough, you will know your true polarity, and understanding the theory in detail becomes irrelevant.

@ Siamiesesilk & Baltar: The lion is a right symbol. Fear is the King of the Jungle

[dannycm]

Hey, Wanye, this is exactly what I needed to hear. Thank you. When I first read Steve's article on polarization I had a darkworker's aspirations but I feared that I would never have love or happiness. Now I've realized that it is this very fear that will draw love and happiness into my life.

...still, though, why does fear seem like such a dirty word?

[wayne]

Originally Posted by dannycm

Hey, Wanye, this is exactly what I needed to hear. Thank you. When I first read Steve's article on polarization I had a darkworker's aspirations but I feared that I would never have love or happiness. Now I've realized that it is this very fear that will draw love and happiness into my life.

...still, though, why does fear seem like such a dirty word?

Good question. It seems like 'fear' is rooted in all 'negative' emotions/thoughts. But I like the buddhist phrase "turning poison into medicine." We can take this fear emotion/thought and use it for our own good. Unchecked fear; that is, fear without awareness of its potential can be destructive, like a fire hose without someone manning it, it's just shooting water every which way. But we can harness this powerful energy to do what we like. Its best to think of 'fear' more objectively. Maybe we can come up with a new word for 'fear' something that symbolizes the motivating energy for pulling in. Really its just that, a motivator. Basically we need not fear the word 'fear,' lets use it! Lets awaken to our true power inside! Lets not be afraid of who we truly are. Fear no longer controls us, we use the motivating power of fear to do whatever we want.

Maybe the real issue here is the realization that with the powerful energy that comes with polarization we have much responsibility. We (light or dark) workers can do powerful things. We can change humanity in whatever way we want. We can create a war (Hitler) or we can create peace (Gandhi), its up to us. With great power comes great responsibility. Polarization either way doesn't really matter. We can have whatever we want, the question is what to want...?

Have fun.

[danas]

You may think you are a darkworker working for love-
but that automatically makes you a lightworker because Love IS Light!
thats the way I understand it anyway... and once you turn on the light darkness disappears.

[wolfgang]

Originally Posted by Kingston

@ Wolfgang
And there is always co-dependence. This is the nature of human society. It is an opportunity for happiness for both polarities... You get it, right?

Well, I've read that to place your happiness dependant on something else is an attachment and cause for suffering and also a set up to be manipulated.

Yes, know them and control them. This sounds obscene to a non polarized person or low consciousness lightworker, but it is the nature of relationships, also those of lightworkers, but from a completely different perspective. I intuit that a great philosopher or psychologist could reduce every possible behavior to it. Love is not a necessity for harmony. Besides, harmony is debilitating to a developed darkworker; he or she craves tension in order to feel relief.

The nature of relationships, in my thinking, is not to know someone and control them. I think that sounds obscene from the high consciousness view. Why is it good to promote controlling someone? OK, it happens in human behaviour but growth is about becomming less controlling - not finding something that says let's do something that lets me continue to be controlling.

It is game playing. Very perceptive of you! Its application is only a good idea for a darkworker.

Still, if being a darkworker is just as effective as a ligthworker - I'm surprised that to be a darkworker you would be playing games and manipulating people. I can't see how that behaviour is as effective as a lightworker or a non-duality-worker.

The flowing part of the theory is really tricky. Even Steve has trouble bringing the point home. It certainly is beyond my frame of explanation, but I can FEEL its truth with every fiber of my being. When I take the content of an intention in mind, whether its an image, sound, whatever sensation, I feel incredible when I perceive it coming towards me and close to me. It is a very fire-like, greedy, sexual sensation.. I love it. I take action automatically.

That does sound great! To have your passion wired must make a difference. And do you think you have these feelings more so when you are poalrized? Focused on giving or taking only?

I advise anyone to grasp the theory FROM THE INSIDE OUT, like Steve mentioned in the past. If you are developed enough, you will know your true polarity, and understanding the theory in detail becomes irrelevant.

@ Siamiesesilk & Baltar: The lion is a right symbol. Fear is the King of the Jungle

Sometimes it feels like, oh no I better get this or I'm not going to be a "developed" individual. Those that aren't poarlized are conflicted and doomed?

[Kingston]

@ Wolfgang

It is difficult, I know. First you should heighten your consciousness by reading more of Steve's articles.First read his post about the different levels of consciousness, at http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/200...consciousness/

After that, read http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/200...consciousness/

(The link looks the same, but it is a different article.)

You should read these, because raising your level will make you see what it means to polarize. You can raise your consciousness temporarily with objects and information from a higher level, and Steve's writings are. Raising your level is exactly the same thing as polarizing. At the level of Reason, you MUST polarize much further to get higher, because you become more conscious of the conflict within you. Then you know that becoming who you are is the only way to go.

Also reread ALL THREE of the polarity articles at least three times. Not in one rush, but let it sink in for a few days. Take you time. Everything is in there, but you did not get half of it. For instance, you still think the flow is always the same; it clearly is not. Steve says in the last article that darkworkers see giving as an investment to gain more later. They only like giving because they know they will GET more in return. Lightworkers take and receive, so that they can give even more (like Steve getting rich with this site). They like receiving only because it will enable them to give more. For both kinds of people the highly positive feelings only come when they do the thing that fits their polarity. The rest is just an investment. Think about this.

My estimate is that you are at the levels of Courage and Willingness, and sometimes on the level of Acceptance. Going up even one level is REALLY hard and takes time. But it is possible and I think you will definitely get to Reason if you want to.

When you reach Reason and become conscious of your true nature, and choose to go with it, you get a glimpse of the Joy of embracing your destiny. Like I say elsewhere, you can then feel your polarity by thinking about your profound, emotional experiences from the past. They will reveal your polarity. Than the thinking is gone, and only action remains.

Be kind enough to react to this AFTER you have done the reading and thinking. I wish you a good journey.