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Old 06-02-2010, 09:10 PM   #31 (permalink)
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Well, I am 100% sure that you can do things that Steve cannot do, or at least be much better than him in some fields.

Now of course, if you want to be a personal development bloger who has a strong computer knowledge, is an early riser who likes to make people think by writing thought provoking content, you're likely to not be as good as him.

My point is simply that if you find your own strengths and you learn to shine in your own personal way, you can definitely be as good as Steve or any other human being. But you will be DIFFERENT, unique. And maybe some people will ask themselves, "how can I be like Zach" ? (who knows, maybe they already do).

Each person has his own set of unique strengths and qualities. Those who develop themselves start to get a very strong personality that shines in a unique way, and it seems impossible to be like them. The truth is : it IS impossible to be like them, but it is ALSO impossible for THEM to be like you

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Old 06-02-2010, 10:00 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Well, I am 100% sure that you can do things that Steve cannot do, or at least be much better than him in some fields.

Now of course, if you want to be a personal development bloger who has a strong computer knowledge, is an early riser who likes to make people think by writing thought provoking content, you're likely to not be as good as him.

My point is simply that if you find your own strengths and you learn to shine in your own personal way, you can definitely be as good as Steve or any other human being. But you will be DIFFERENT, unique. And maybe some people will ask themselves, "how can I be like Zach" ? (who knows, maybe they already do).

Each person has his own set of unique strengths and qualities. Those who develop themselves start to get a very strong personality that shines in a unique way, and it seems impossible to be like them. The truth is : it IS impossible to be like them, but it is ALSO impossible for THEM to be like you
Impossible? Definitely not. Impracticle/not-for-the-highest-good? Likely. I generally agree with the spirit of your post, but the word impossible seems too strong here.
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Old 06-03-2010, 04:41 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Impossible? Definitely not. Impracticle/not-for-the-highest-good? Likely. I generally agree with the spirit of your post, but the word impossible seems too strong here.
Well, I used the word "impossible" in the sense that each person is different, and even if they do the same thing with the same level of success, they are likely to have a different "vibrational footprint", a different personality and style. Unless they're twins of course
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Old 06-03-2010, 04:21 PM   #34 (permalink)
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Not criticism Mounds, a request for clarification: Does this mean you believe you are capable of becoming a billionaire, a president, or a Nobel prize winner?
There a lot of luck involved in becoming any of those.
Nobel Price get often won because someone pursued an idea that allowed for a massive breakthrough while everyone else considered that idea to be hopeless. Being at the right time at the right place.

If you look at Mark Zuckerberg he also became a billionaire because he was at the right place and made his bet on the right idea.
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Old 06-03-2010, 04:35 PM   #35 (permalink)
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There a lot of luck involved in becoming any of those.
Luck, LoA, knowledge, persistence.... all different words that mean the same thing: Possible.
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Old 06-03-2010, 04:58 PM   #36 (permalink)
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Luck, LoA, knowledge, persistence.... all different words that mean the same thing: Possible.
You kick ass Sandra.

Nuff said.
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Old 06-04-2010, 12:43 AM   #37 (permalink)
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It's hard to find millionaires who started in their mid-30's. I can keep looking, though.
There better be a list of people who became successful after 50. Because I'm over 50, broke and starting over.
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Old 06-04-2010, 02:32 AM   #38 (permalink)
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I know the feeling, summerwish. I didn't find a list yet, but Googling millionaires who started at 50 led to this article:

Live Like A Millionaire | Over 50 Website
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Old 06-04-2010, 02:37 AM   #39 (permalink)
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I tried an alternate approach: searching for teenage millionaires. They do exist. If someone can go from baby to millionaire in 15 years, perhaps you can go from 50 to 65 year old millionaire.

Teen Millionaires - WalletPop
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Luck, LoA, knowledge, persistence.... all different words that mean the same thing: Possible.
This is interesting, Sandra. I wonder if we have different perspectives on the phrase "I can become a multi-millionaire"? To me can implies having the power to make it happen at will. Possible is broader, since it can rely on outside factors that are really out of my control. For instance I don't believe I can become a multi-millionaire within a week, but it is possible if I play the right numbers for the lottery.

The good news is I'm starting to believe I can become a multi-millionaire in time. Not so sure I can reach billionaire though.

Thoughts?
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Old 06-04-2010, 02:55 AM   #41 (permalink)
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I tried an alternate approach: searching for teenage millionaires. They do exist. If someone can go from baby to millionaire in 15 years, perhaps you can go from 50 to 65 year old millionaire.

Teen Millionaires - WalletPop
Well now. That's just cool.
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Old 06-04-2010, 02:56 AM   #42 (permalink)
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This is interesting, Sandra. I wonder if we have different perspectives on the phrase "I can become a multi-millionaire"? To me can implies having the power to make it happen at will. Possible is broader, since it can rely on outside factors that are really out of my control. For instance I don't believe I can become a multi-millionaire within a week, but it is possible if I play the right numbers for the lottery.

The good news is I'm starting to believe I can become a multi-millionaire in time. Not so sure I can reach billionaire though.

Thoughts?
I get what you're trying to say.

I'm not sure if I agree. I am kind of of the opinion that everything is potentially possible. For example, me becoming a multimillionaire this week (without the lottery).

But still...

Even believing you can (eventually) is good
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Old 06-04-2010, 03:38 AM   #43 (permalink)
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In a relaxed and easy manner, in a healthy and positive way, in its own perfect time, for the highest good of all, I intend someone who understands both my perspective and Sandra's to bridge the gap and explain how she's thinking in a way I can understand.
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Old 06-04-2010, 03:41 AM   #44 (permalink)
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Let me try to put it in a different way.

Improbable? Maybe...

But why couldn't I become a multi millionaire tomorrow? What is stopping me? What could possibly not happen for that to become my reality?
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I get what you're trying to say.

I'm not sure if I agree. I am kind of of the opinion that everything is potentially possible. For example, me becoming a multimillionaire this week (without the lottery).

But still...

Even believing you can (eventually) is good
Dear Sandra, I guess what I don't understand is if you can make that much money in a week, how? And why aren't you doing it?
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Dear Sandra, I guess what I don't understand is if you can make that much money in a week, how?
I could invent something, sell it, and make a fortune
I could save some random guy on the street from a car accident and he gives me 10 million dollar as a thank you
I could sell 1000 systems of my software and that would make me around a million
I could run into a depressed millionaire who is convinced that money is the root of all evil and asks me to take over his
I could win in a casino



Give me one good reason why this is absolutely impossible?

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And why aren't you doing it?
Because right now I'm fighting a battle with my gremlins

Seriously, I have some limiting beliefs to work though. Such as that I cannot be rich and have my husband and house and cat. One or the other. Stupid isn't it?

As well, I have this feeling that I will be seen as stupid or wrong somehow if I do do this.

These are not logical beliefs, but they are the beliefs (among others, they have an entire club up there in my head!! ) that do not allow me to do what I could do to make this much money.
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Of course it's possible in all the ways you listed and more. But how can you make that happen? Do you see my distinction between can and possibly can? I can possibly shoot a basketball through a hoop from the opposite side of the court. I don't believe I can do it just by making a decision that it will go through and throwing the ball in a way I'm sure is going to work.

As for your gremlins, I know what you mean. Wouldn't it take more than a week to deal with them?
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I'm not saying you're wrong, Sandra. I just think we interpret words differently, and I want to find out your way.
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I'm not saying you're wrong, Sandra. I just think we interpret words differently, and I want to find out your way.
Ok, I'll join you in the intention then that somebody will come on her and build you a bridge between my line of thinking and yours.


Basically, I think NOTHING is impossible. And if nothing is impossible everything is possible. If something is possible it means that it CAN be done.
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Of course it's possible in all the ways you listed and more. But how can you make that happen? Do you see my distinction between can and possibly can? I can possibly shoot a basketball through a hoop from the opposite side of the court. I don't believe I can do it just by making a decision that it will go through and throwing the ball in a way I'm sure is going to work.
I understand that you MAKE the distinction between can and possibly can.

I just don't understand why you want to make that distinction.

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As for your gremlins, I know what you mean. Wouldn't it take more than a week to deal with them?
It could. But it is not a requirement. They can also all be gone tomorrow. Or not. But it is not impossible.
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Tomorrow is an excellent day for transforming gremlins.

Remember, the #1 key to success: be at cause in the matter. Intend to have a breakthrough.
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I understand that you MAKE the distinction between can and possibly can.

I just don't understand why you want to make that distinction.
Risk management, and choosing how to spend my time. Do I want to study how billionaires made their fortunes to shoot for the unlikely outcome of earning a billion dollars myself? Or do I want to play on YouTube all day, which is a sure thing and immediately rewarding? (The answer is something in between.)
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Risk management, and choosing how to spend my time. Do I want to study how billionaires made their fortunes to shoot for the unlikely outcome of earning a billion dollars myself? Or do I want to play on YouTube all day, which is a sure thing and immediately rewarding? (The answer is something in between.)
I want to do neither!

Why would I care how other people make their money, except for the fact that it may be nice to know, to get to know them.

But not in relation to my life.

I am me, I am not them, so I wouldn't want to know how THEY did it. I want to know how I did it.

Between playing and making money... I want to do both I want to play at making money and make money while playing.

I'm sorry, I'm kinda way too happy today to actually consider anything annoying or bad or wrong..
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I'm sorry, I'm kinda way too happy today to actually consider anything annoying or bad or wrong..
Congratulations on being happy Sandra, and don't apologize. I appreciate you taking time out to comment here.
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I love to make money online and i think thats what Steve is teaching. He is really talented!
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The good news is I'm starting to believe I can become a multi-millionaire in time. Not so sure I can reach billionaire though.

Thoughts?
What could you do as a billionaire that would make you happier than being a multi-millionaire? What would you be doing every day if you were a multi-millionaire? Watching U-tube videos? Then you've already reached your goal. Or another way of looking at things - if you love watching U-Tube videos, then do more - find the best ones - compile them - or start making them. Have more fun with them.

If we want more money so we can enjoy life more, then we have to start enjoying life more now.

I just read a newspaper article about a woman who started exercising at age 70. Now at age 91 she can bench press 60 lbs, is training 6 days a week, has won more than 600 gold medals in track and field and has set 30 world records. And I keep hearing people in their 30's asking if they are too old to start something.
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to be a good role model? I do sometimes. Anyone else?

Lately I've been wondering if "having more power than I think" is just an empty platitude, and whether the dream of self-employment is too much for this lifetime?

Either way, I can still benefit from his writing and grow my own pace.

I don't believe in role models. Well, they are helpful in a few ways, but ultimately damaging, if you follow them too closely.

You have to understand this. You're unique. You have a certain personality; a certain background; a certain set of strengths and talents (and weaknesses); a certain set of likes, dislikes, preferences etc.

Your life, at its optimal best, would be different from Steve's life, at its optimal best, or my life, at its optimal best, or anyone else's life, at its optimal best.

Therefore for your own best results, you need to grow and develop in your own unique way. Find your own path; find your own voice; find your own strategy and mission.

Among other things, this is why I quietly laugh to myself, every time I come across one of those (MANY) posts in this forum, where someone says that he wants to be a professional blogger, and a personal development professional blogger, at that, just like Steve Pavlina.

Recent example:

What if I can provide little or no value?

Oh please.

In most cases, this is so copycat that I know that the endeavour is 99% doomed to failure. The person simply hasn't done enough introspecting, hasn't acquired enough self-knowledge and self-awareness, to find his own path in life. Instead he's mostly blindly copying Steve - an endeavour that might lead to some concrete results, but is ultimately going to be quite limited.

Just to be clear - I think that Steve is a cool guy. Most of the time, however, you're going to flop at being another Steve ... simply because you're NOT another Steve. You're YOU. And your job is to be the best YOU that you can be.
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Not criticism Mounds, a request for clarification: Does this mean you believe you are capable of becoming a billionaire, a president, or a Nobel prize winner?
Implicit in this question -

it is a mighty, worthy and magnificent aspiration for you (emphasis on the word you) to be a billionaire, president or a Nobel prize winner.

Sorry! I don't agree.

The billionaire aspiration can be worthy ... for some people.

The presidential aspiration can be worthy ... for some people.

The Nobel prize aspiration can be worthy ... for some people.

It won't be worthy, for all people. In all likelihood it wouldn't be worthy for YOU.

And certainly, IMO, none of them are worthy, for ME.

Among other things, I have absolutely no interest in being a billionaire. I am already a millionaire. I'd like to earn a few million dollars more, yeah, and that will be quite enough for me, thank you very much. Then my goals and intentions and aspirations in life would switch to other things.

The key point is this. Are you wanting something, because you, YOU, genuinely want it?

Or are you wanting something because you've been told by society, or your peers, or your friends, or your fellow forummers, that this is a good thing? Eg you've been told that it is a good thing to be a billionaire, or a president, or a Nobel prize winner, or a Steve Pavlina; and you then want to be that.

If that's the case, then you lack an internal compass. And you'll get lost in life.
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Of course it's possible in all the ways you listed and more. But how can you make that happen? Do you see my distinction between can and possibly can? I can possibly shoot a basketball through a hoop from the opposite side of the court. I don't believe I can do it just by making a decision that it will go through and throwing the ball in a way I'm sure is going to work.
Maybe you can make a distinction between *can* and *will*, too. ie, "I can do it" doesn't mean "I will do it" or "it will happen".

Supposing you throw a basketball, and it doesn't whoosh through the hoop - does that then mean you *can't* do it? I say you still can do it. The can remains, no matter how many times you make an attempt and it doesn't happen.

If you're thinking - I can do it perfectly the first time I make the attempt - well, maybe yes maybe no. But you don't usually have a single attempt to do something. You have your whole life and just as many attempts as you want to put to it.
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And the other question is -

WHY would you want to do such a thing? With the basketball, I mean.

The only possible reasons I can think of are:

"Because it's fun."
"Because I could get famous for a brief period of time, on Youtube."

And if these are sufficiently powerful reasons for you, then go for it. If not, don't bother.

Zach is struggling with questions of possibilities & probabilities for very large goals (the amazing basketball shot; the President; the Nobel Prize).

Why bother. In all likelihood, there are many (MANY) other possible and much more probable goals which would bring him great satisfaction, if he could achieve them. They might sound much more mundane, but they WOULD bring great satisfaction, and they ARE much more probable.

For example (and these are just hypothetical examples - because I really don't know Zach's life details):

- earning $500,000 (instead of $1,000,000,000).
- being very successful in his career (as opposed to winning the Nobel prize)
- having strong relationships with all the important people in his life (as opposed to becoming the President).
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