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Old 02-26-2007, 07:50 PM
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Use this thread to discuss the following entry from Steve Pavlina's blog:

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Old 02-26-2007, 08:13 PM
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Hi Steve,
Thanks for the follow up article. It has helped clear up some of my questions of how this works in theory.

It has helped me realise that I have been giving out very mixed messages to the universe!

I really like the Star Wars analogy as it makes it so much clearer for me. I think this is a topic that will be discussed for a while. I am particularly interested in discussing the practical application of choosing your polarisation.

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This third installment has definitely made things clearer. I have a much better feeling of how polarization is present in my own life, with this explanation. Star Wars nerds definitely benefit from those analogies.

I'm looking forward to discussion about ways to polarize some of our day to day activities. For instance, if you're currently a cubicle-monkey like myself, how do you polarize your daily work? I'd like to know from Steve the way he goes about examining the polarity of different aspects of his own life and alters/increases those polarities. How does one reverse polarities that are unwanted, maybe highly ingrained?

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While I enjoyed the post, I still have a hard time coming to terms with the idea that there is fundamentally no difference between "Fear" and "Love" -- as in, which one is more desirable.

I understand you're saying they are both equally effective in channeling energy. I also understand that if one believes we exist only to gather "experiences" both good and bad, then both types of experiences are equally worthwhile.

This is the same argument I had with an ex-Buddhist monk, who told me it's "fine" for people to mistreat others, exploit the downtrodden, etc, because "there's no right or wrong" in the universe.

Shouldn't the "good" be increasingly favoured over the "bad?" Shouldn't the traits of fear and power mongering be phased out as we move towards a more peaceful and loving society?
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Oops! Meant to mention, I am wondering how manifesting things like money and parking spaces fits into this polarity model. Is it just about the 'root' of the intention? e.g. "I intend to get a particular parking space so that I have more time to do lightwork"
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Old 02-26-2007, 08:41 PM
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I'll address the practical applications in other articles, but first I had to lay some extensive groundwork. While the concept of polarity may seem very abstract, I find it immensely practical to apply across all areas of life.

For example, when building a business, you will experience much greater success by picking a single polarity and sticking with it consistently. Are you primarily in business to serve, to contribute, and to have a positive impact? Or is your top priority to gain power, money, or status? When you have to choose one or the other, which way does your business lean? Will it sacrifice service for profits or vice versa?

Most businesses mix the two and make incongruent decisions. But if you look to those businesses that are most successful, you'll tend to find a more polarized organization as well as a more polarized CEO.
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Shouldn't the "good" be increasingly favoured over the "bad?" Shouldn't the traits of fear and power mongering be phased out as we move towards a more peaceful and loving society?
The answer to these questions lies within. Look inside yourself and ask why you haven't already phased out what you consider the "bad" in your own thoughts and actions. Or have you already become as loving and peaceful as possible?

When you come to grips with the appeal of the "dark side" within yourself, you'll understand that it's not something that can simply be swept under the rug by labeling it as "bad" and then trying to forget about it.
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Seems like the tune has changed from part 2 where in and out was less morally weighted. I mean to intend that I create a good meal that I will eat well was an in flow - but now that though is an in flow as fear beased? fine - so eating to survive is a fear based way of looking at nourishment, I suppposed I can fit that and continue.

Also there seems to be a shift from the idea that the thought energy division is about giving versus receiving. It's now love and fear.

Is all giving to be viewed as love? Generating something "out there" is all good and lovey? Aren't there cases were creating something or even giving is actually harmful to the receiver? OK, so that's fine if we color it with love - which is to say giving with love is going to be clear.

The same with recieving - now is all recieving fear based? OK, lets color recieving with fear and say that's what will be a strong signal for LoA to kick in. But, then there are ways to recieve that are not fear based (I hope) that is an inflow that can have a strong signal. For instance intending that I have good health is self love of an in flow kind. Or what about all the IM stuff about receiving money and finding the blocks to it, as if that kind of receiving is OK and removing the blocks is taking the fear out of it?

And so a fear based motivated person is able to wield LoA very effectively? Doesn't that contradict the ideas that IM work "for the good of all"?

I don't know - maybe the jump from in/out terms to fear/love is more like a retro edit of thoughts on Steve's blog - and he so much as says the terms weren't well defined. And in/out doesn't really map to fear/love but the ideas of a fear/love polarity are indeed a strong line for personal modus operandi.

As always great stuff to think about and look at applying!
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Everything I needed to know I learnt from Star Wars...

Great clarification Steve. For me, through many months of meditation, I was faced with this decision. Although I didn't think of it in these terms, it is a very distinct thing one goes through.

I think there is a "dominant side" that each of us tends towards - and I'm sure one can choose against their bias. But the more aware one becomes, the more likely they will simply polarize to that bias - it's doesn't have to be a tough decision because the process of expanding awareness, is a process of making conscious and integrating ones "dark side" (the stuff one represses and denies) - which ever way that is, love or fear.

It's that process which is tough!

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Thanks for a very interesting post.

Thanks to the Star Wars analogies I understood the polarity-issue a whole lot better. After this article I´m really looking forward to the more practical posts.
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Thank you very much for your work Steve, thank you with all my heart.

This DOES help me a lot understanding my life better. It gives a lot of clarity. I now know what I was doing wrong (compared to my polarization). This will definitely help me polarize more and more.

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Yeah, just one point : about the fact that there can be high awareness people polarized with fear.
Erin and you seemed to say before that if the vibration of one person is high, this person is not likely to attract dark entities in his life (especially when astral projecting but also in everyday life).
If there can be high awareness people from "the dark side", then does this mean that a high level light worker can meet a high level darkworker? Or they just never see each other? (I guess there must be some lazer sword fight at some point )
(I am not a native English speaker, but I think you understood my question.)
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Hey, Star Wars is based on Jung philosophy.
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I would really appreciate some concrete examples of common goals. I don't really understand how all receiving-intents are fear-based. It sounded like this article was saying that if you do anything of which you are the primary beneficiary, instead of the world or others in general, that's fear-based? For example, intending good personal health, improving your finances, discovering your personal path in life, getting a material possession, getting an education, etc. - those are all fear-based and negative?
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Old 02-27-2007, 12:43 AM
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I would really appreciate some concrete examples of common goals. I don't really understand how all receiving-intents are fear-based. It sounded like this article was saying that if you do anything of which you are the primary beneficiary, instead of the world or others in general, that's fear-based? For example, intending good personal health, improving your finances, discovering your personal path in life, getting a material possession, getting an education, etc. - those are all fear-based and negative?
You can generate similar outcomes with either polarity, but there will be a very different intentional energy behind them. If you keep asking why you want a certain thing and trace it back to its roots, you'll end up with either a fear-based intent, a love-based intent, or a mixture of both.

For example, why do you want good health? Why do you want an education? Why do you want more possessions? Are these desires ultimately rooted in love or fear? What's the why behind the intent? For most people the motivation is a mixture of both polarities. However, you'll get much better results if the root of your intention is either one polarity or the other but not a blend of both.

I will definitely address this in upcoming articles with some concrete examples.
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This resonates with em fully! Thanks Steve. It has been
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This is my first post but I am sure I will be back as I am hooked. More please!!!
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Yeah, just one point : about the fact that there can be high awareness people polarized with fear.
Erin and you seemed to say before that if the vibration of one person is high, this person is not likely to attract dark entities in his life (especially when astral projecting but also in everyday life).
If there can be high awareness people from "the dark side", then does this mean that a high level light worker can meet a high level darkworker? Or they just never see each other? (I guess there must be some lazer sword fight at some point )

Yes! Conscious darkworkers (i.e. ones that have polarized towards fear) can and DO affect conscious lightworkers (i.e. ones that have polarized towards love). I will probably write more about that in my blog soon.

Also, high level darkworker and lightworker humans are different than the negative energy that attacks one while astral projecting. Those entities are of a different genus.
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"I will definitely address this in upcoming articles with some concrete examples."

Thanks, Steve! That will help. Also, perhaps you could give some examples of how to switch from fear-based to love-based. For instance, I want good health because it's inconvenient and draining to be in pain all the time, so you could say that it's a fear-based intent: "I am afraid of being in pain all the time, so I intend to change that." How could you take an intent like this and change it to a love-based one?
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Hey Steve! I've been a big fan of your blog for a while but I just registered on the forum. Thanks for all your insight into Subjective Reality, the LoA and now Polarization.
Ok, I always vaguely suspected that this was kind of the case (somewhat subconsciously - I couldn't have put it into words like you have) but now that you've explained it it's very "enlightening."

Now, I have a question about the actual results of using polarity, it seems to me that if you really work through the course of events for a specific intention that the outcome will be virtually identical whether you’re using fear or love – is this correct?
For example, if I build a great blog out of love, so I can help people learn about the LoA and Polarity and my intentions are to help thousands of people change their lives…then those people are going to come and donate money or buy affiliate products and I earn a very nice profit and maybe even become “famous.” Now conversely, if I’d like to make a nice profit and/or become famous (out of fear) then I’d need to make sure I write really good content that actually helps people because I understand that people won’t come back or buy anything and won’t like me if I have spammy/low-quality content so therefore, the equation is completely congruent either way – on one side you help people and write good content and on the other you make a nice profit and become famous.

Does that make sense at all? Am I on the right track there?

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In some ways fear and love polarities can create similar-looking outcomes, but in other ways those outcomes will be miles apart.

If I consciously shifted to fear polarity, for example, and genuinely believed that my own personal gain was more important than helping people, I'd make some big changes in the way I do business. First, I'd kill off these forums because they aren't profitable enough, and I certainly wouldn't "waste" time participating here myself unless I was trying to upsell you on something. Then I'd recommend tons of lousy products that pay fat affiliate commissions, like a new product every other day. I'm confident I could at least double or triple my income in about 30 days if I did that. I'd turn my blog into a post farm and recruit other bloggers to crank out useless info crack in order to spam the search engines and generate more links, more page views, and therefore more ad clicks. I'd take all my best content, wrap it into high-priced products for sale, and every post would direct you to buy something. And so on...

On the surface I might still be a personal development blogger, but the way the business would be run would be radically different. In reality most businesses will be a mixture of both polarities, but some are more polarized than others, and that polarization generally shows around the edges.

Have you ever patronized a business you felt really cared about you? Have you ever patronized one that made you feel they only cared about the bottom line?
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I loved the last series of blog entries, and can't wait until more on polarity. I want to join the dark side! Unlimited power!!! Just kidding...sorta.

Hmmm, I better get dibs on the screenname Darkworker...
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I find the last post needs clarification! Using "fear" to describe anything that flows to me seems a denial of self. Why is attracting an income or a relationship or something of beauty "dark"?
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i assume that the energy of the love-based come from the heart chakra

where does the energy of fear-baased come from?
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I will definitely address this in upcoming articles with some concrete examples.
Thanks Steve for the post.......and the forum. I was looking for examples too and your answer above to the question on examples really helped clarify polarization.
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Ok ,I see where you’re coming from on that. Although, in my paradigm I believe that if you started offering lousy content and lousy products that, although you’d have a short term increase in revenue, the long term value and profitability wouldn’t be there…and if you wanted to really earn the most money you’d deliver the best content and even in the fear polarity, offering lousy content and lousy products doesn’t seem like it would be the best way to grow your income, it doesn’t seem like that would be very “energized” with that polarity. To me, if I were to create a blog solely for the intention of personal gain I would make it the best blog on the internet and make sure I earned the trust of the readers, because that would provide the strongest long-term income.
For some reason, in every example I think of I still see complete equality in the actions I would take and the results that manifest (though the thoughts that I hold and the energy behind my actions may be polar opposites for either fear or love). Like for the business example, it’s entirely possible that the first one only makes me feel that they care because they know that the bottom line is dependent on the customers happiness and the one that only cares about the bottom line may be truly concerned the customers happiness – but knows that by focusing energy on the bottom line it can help even more and grow even bigger to help more people and have a greater influence. I guess the thing I’m trying to say is that there is, by virtue of polarity, equal and opposite poles that will manifest on both sides of the “force” (like money - helping people and helping people – money) and that whichever you put your energy towards it will return the opposite equally. Would you agree?