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Wow, powerful post Steve, thanks! It seems to me like people do switch sides. Like Bill Gates building up Microsoft by ethically questionable means and then retiring to administer a charitable endowment. Or maybe he is just paying his karmic debt... It also seems like picking the "love" polarity would yeild more happiness, so I'm not sure why to pick the "fear" polarity. Maybe it would yeild more power. Anyways, lots to think about here. |
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So, is the intention itself either fear based or love based, or the energy you feel about it? Would devoting your life towards helping raise money to cure cancer be considered a LOVING intention? If so, what if it's only because your child has cancer and you're AFRAID that they will die, then does the intention become FEAR based? Who decides whether an intention is fear based or love based? Am I allowed to attract a car (a possession, which might be considered fear based to some), if I'm going to use that car to drive to/from work and work on helping raise money for charities? I'm sorry, somewhere along the way you lost me Steve. I feel that this whole topic of polarization is just really about Judgement which I don't believe in. It also doesn't reconcile with your Subjective reality model. I think someone who LOVES helping children should help children. Someone who LOVES collecting vintage cars should collect vintage cars. Someone who LOVES building wealth, should build wealth. Someone who LOVES writing articles, should write articles. As long as people do what THEY LOVE they will be successful, but I don't see that there is some form of universal directory of judgements which says that certain things are LOVE based and certain things are FEAR based. Here's a direct quote of "INFLOW" intentions you listed. Keeping in mind your new label of "INFLOW" as "FEAR" you are saying these are specifically FEAR based intentions: Quote:
Imagine a world where everyone agrees with your phylosophy. Pretend that everyone on earth read your blog and starting tomorrow morning they agreed with your advice 100% and they ALL decided to act out of OUTFLOW/LOVE only. Who would RECEIVE everything that everyone is GIVING? When I make a donation to your website (OUTFLOW/LOVE) do you not accept that donation (INFLOW/FEAR)? I would contest that energy flows from YOU > UNIVERSE > YOU > UNIVERSE > YOU > UNIVERSE and on and on forever. I don't think there is a direction, it's just an endless circle, you only need to keep the loop going. I wouldn't worry too much about the "polarity" of your intention. If the first thing you want to manifest is a CAR when you first learn about LoA, then go out and do it, and once you get that car you will feel really awesome and you will WANT to give back to the world, which will in turn give back to you and so on and so on and so on etc. The only people who break the process are those who always TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE TAKE or always GIVE GIVE GIVE GIVE GIVE. Either one is not healthy. Just my 2 cents. | ||
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If you take the 3 most recent LoA posts, it appears to me that Steve has (talking in the 3rd person is easiest here) developed his ideas on this topic further as he has written more and expanded upon what is there already. Hence the dichotomy you quote earlier Paul (I think)... Isn't there the common case where someone gives and gives and gives that they are satisfying something within themselves where they don't feel comfortable (for whatever reason/conditioning) not doing so. But isn't that actually 'taking'? It comes back to another topic, one that Steve has covered about giving and receiving and how they eternally loop back on each other. here? Anyways, that my 2 cents like yourself... P. | |
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this is according to Chopra ""There are two kinds of self-power. The weaker of the two is not really self-power at all; it's the power of agency, in which your strength is derived from something out there in the world. It could be a famous name, or a lot of money, or the fact that you've got a title that carries a lot of power with it, whether it's President of the United States or heavyweight-boxing champion of the world. You as an individual are the agent for some external power source. Agency power can certainly be formidable, but it's a kind of power that has a beginning and a middle and an end. So, the President of the United States is very powerful as long as he's in office, but after his term expires, his agency power is diminished. Ten years later he may not be powerful at all, if his entire strength was based on agency. True self-power on the other hand, comes from within. Self-power has a spiritual rather than a material foundation. Although agency power comes and goes with the external source, self-power is permanent. It lasts as long as you do. In fact, it lasts longer - because self-power is one with spirit, and spirit lasts forever. Secondly, self-power makes itself felt immediately. Its effect is instantaneous. We've all had the experience of meeting someone who didn't seem to be especially interesting or impressive, but then we find out that they're powerful in some material way and suddenly we feel we have to take them more seriously. This often happens with people who have agency power. But when a person has true self-power, there's no way of being mistaken about them. Their inner strength is obvious immediately, regardless if how they're dressed or the kind of car they're driving or the type of wristwatch they wear. Before they say anything, before they utter a single word, before they do anything, this is the kind of person who will actually draw your attention in a room; because their spirit is the source of their strength. And it's the power that's associated with great leaders. Self-power is like other great natural forces. It's like fire or electricity. By itself, it's ethically neutral - it can be used for good or bad. According to Vedic teachings, you don't necessarily have to be a good person to have this kind of power. Bad people have it too, and they can wreak havoc because they have such great ability to influence everyone around them.""" |
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Guy's I think you are forgetting about the reverse flow here... If your goals are just to get the best quality information to as many people as possible then the reverse flow of that would be a health income or a nice car - but the universe takes care of that side. If your goal is to have a nice car or healthy income, then the universe takes care of the reverse flow by making sure it takes quality information from you. If you find your self without the nice car or income then you have not allowed the universe to take its 'pound of flesh' or Karmic debt as of yet. Hence the reason you have not yet aquired the car or achived a heathy income. In Steves second article he was very non judgmental about which was the right way to go about things. But as we see from article 3, in Steves attempt to make things clearer, he used emotive tearms in which we have already morally pre judged to be the 'right' way and the 'wrong' way. What I see here is that peole are seeing the dark side and conflict within them selves and are uncomfortable with there own reflection. They then resort to attacking the analogy instead of seeing what is uncomfortable to look at. This is the way I see Steve's explination. |
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While the inlow/outflow fear/love model is generally clear to me and I do understand what Steve is getting at, I find myself gravitating more towards the issues raised by Impaul99 and then by Goodstyles in his follow up email. First how do we decided if an intention is ultimately fear based, or love based? Can't it be both? And doesn't everything ultimately come back to our own personal satisfaction (hence fear)? A typical example would be a "Charity Marathon?" People spend hours/days/weeks/months training for these events. While they may raise a few dollars for their favorite charity, ultimately are they not doing this for themselves, even the slightest amount? (This is a personal example!) Which brings me to the next question... If someone decides to poloraize with love, can that person never again hold intentions for personal desires? (the million dollar experiment for example....) Can that person no longer manifest good health, a nice vacation or a new car? Wouldn't this line of thinking lead to the justification of intentions? (i.e., I really want that nice vacation so I can spend my money and HELP the local economy, rather than I want that vacation for MY OWN pleasure..) I welcome any answers to this as I am really hoping for a loophole ;-) |
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I think there are two concepts within these articles. There is the "+/- balances" concept (which Steve calls polarity), and the there is the concept of "direction" (which Steve calls polarization). If you are trying to go from point A to point B, polarity is the amount of distance you cover, and polarization is the direction of the distance you cover. The concept of a vector is an excellent analogy for this. In different terms, your polarization is the intention which is guiding your moves and your polarity is how much energy, time, focus you are using to move in that particular direction. It is easy to answer the polarity side of things.. How much energy you are using.. The direction portion is a little trickier, but I think the following questions help with figuring out your direction: Are you trying to take more than you give? Or are you giving more than you take? The first could be labeled as 'fear-based' while we can call the latter 'love-based'. Or call them good and evil, or up and down, or frog and chicken. I was listening to a podcast by Robert Kiyosaki (Rich Dad Poor Dad) the other day. He was saying that there are two kinds of salespeople: the takers and the givers. He explained the exact same concept in his podcast, saying that takers see everything as a single transaction and try to take as much from you as possible (since there won't be a second transaction once you are treated the way you were). The givers try to provide more value then they take. Like Steve said, you pick a side and act consistently. As you keep acting in that direction, you build up momentum. Thus, it gets easier to move in that direction and it also gets easier to put more energy to move in that direction. However, I don't agree with his indifference to the two sides. Keep in mind that whichever side you pick, you will be surrounded with others who picked the same side! There is no separate, corporal God out there to judge you depending on which one you pick. The "Judgment Day" mentioned in religious scripture is just a metaphor. You knowingly or unknowingly pick a side and experience the consequences. What you experience and your reflections on the consequences is your own 'judgment day'. If you are aware of both sides, I'd say go with love. If you've lived within the fear side for a long time, the switch won't be easy or quick, but it will get easier. Last edited by eternomi; 05-20-2007 at 10:00 PM. |
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I feel polarity has a lot to with the non-IM definition of intent. The 'why' behind your actions. Why do you want a new car? Do you think that people will be more attracted to you? Do you get enjoyment from the car? Will a new car help you be more productive in a mission of charity? Each of these reasons might represent a different polarity. Do you fear that you are not attractive enough on your own? Is it negative or positive to enjoy a new car? Does your purchase help you acheive a higher good? With regard to whether an intention(IM-style) is negative or positive, I think we go back to Steve's breakdown of content versus energy. The content (car) is not as important as the energy (why) to determining the polarity. So, I don't think you can make a list of items that have naturally positive or negative polarity. Also, I think that a lot of what makes your polarity positive or negative is how you view what is positive in this world and what is negative. Steve's definition of positive energy and mine and yours are probably not exactly the same but they are probably close enough to agree on much of their merit.
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I'm having trouble knowing how to categorize (in terms of polarities) intent based on simple enjoyment of an activity or thing. It seems to me that it can't be wrong to want something because you enjoy it. Like, "I intend to have more lucid dreams because they are fun and lucid dreaming is a useful tool." Or, "I want a new vehicle because I want to be able to get to the mountains to do rock climbing, because I love to do it." Nobody is benefitting from these things except me, but it's not like I'm harming anyone else or living in fear that I won't get these things. So it doesn't seem like either love-based or fear-based. Help? |
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and having resources can't be manifested as a natural result of following (the path of light) remember mavlov's hierarchy of needs - you need to take care of yourself /your needs first, before you can be altruistic, etc. (read steve's article on that - I can't remember which one) Power on! (via love and light) Jeremy | |
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I perceive this subject of polarity and polarization as yet another model of reality. Like there are many different ways to describe and explain something, or just specific parts of that something. Some explanations are better suited for emphasizing determined aspect or have a more easy grasp of the idea that one wants to convey. I also find this model somewhat incongruent with the subjective model of reality, but, for that matter, it is equally accurate in its own way. They just refer to other aspects of reality. A good analogy would be one person trying to put a rocket in orbit using quantum mechanics, when perhaps it could be easy(?) to do so using classic or relativistic mechanics. I liked this post and will do some experiments in that matter. For now I just say that I'm on the edge of the choice, and the dark side sometimes knows how to show itself to be appealing ... just my cents 2 |
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What would happen if I believed that if I put in fear energy and love energy into the manifestation of my goals then my intentions would manifest well and quickly? In this way I am using the subjective reality model in a way that eliminates polarization in a way that makes sense to me.
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[QUOTE=Steve Pavlina;44932] If I consciously shifted to fear polarity, for example, and genuinely believed that my own personal gain was more important than helping people... QUOTE] Not slamming you here at all Steve, you do good work but... (you knew that was coming right?) aren't you gaining something for all of this effort? Testing your theories maybe, you are getting income from your ads and donations from your web site right? So you are getting "something" for your efforts. If there was absolutley nothing in it for you, would you REALLY be doing it? Even if you are helping other you are ultimately getting something in return, even if it is just a good feelign that you are helping others. |
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Dear Lord am I confused! All I'm trying to do in my life right now is manifest money so I can give back to the universe. After reading the first article I was confused b/c I assumed those are two different flows that were cancelling each other out. I'm trying to manifest $ from the universe (in flow) to give back (out flow), thus conflicting flows. After several days, I got a grip on it and decided, they are two different polarities and I can't focus on both at the same time so I'll try to manifest money (inflow) first and then turn around and manifest goodnesss (outflow). 2 different intentions as someone pointed out in a post. Now I'm hearing that inflow is used for power and greed! Am I confusing the overall picture. How does one manifest $ without "asking" for something from the universe and have it not be thought of as greedy. I truly do want to better my life (with money at the moment) so I can better others but which way is which at this point? |
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I got the idea on polarization, and how a conscious choice leads to a positive feedback loop on capacity to use fear- or love-based energies. So, where does the higher-self figure into this? Does our higher-self guide us one direction or another, or is it possible to go in a direction opposite the higher self? |
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Perhaps there is some fundamental difference between the polarities of love vs. fear and the polarities of attraction vs. separation (or even the polarity of giving vs. recieving)? They seem like they might all be the same thing, but perhaps they are not? For example, giving and recieving can both be elements of love, and they can also be elements of fear. Similarly, one can be alone (separation) and together (attraction) in a loving way or in a fearful way (flight and fight, respectively). So maybe it would be clearer to say that it's good (effective) to alternate between the polarity of giving and recieving, and it's good to alternate between the polarity of attraction and separation, but it's not so good (effective) to alternate between the polarity of love and fear. (It may be clearer, but it's also more of a mouthful!) Oh, and remember, the whole point of George Lucas's epic myth was to show that love wins out in the end! Luke and Vader's love for each other saves the Galaxy and Vader himself, and you'll note that only the ghosts of the guys who died while they were embracing the light side of the force got to stick around for the celebratory campfire... Peace, Love, and Bicycles, Turtle |
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If you currently aren't able to take care of your own needs (food, water, shelter, etc.) that should be your priority right now. You will be helping the universe most by taking good care of yourself (lovingly). As far as I can see, and from what I understand Steve believes, your best bet would be to take your skills, talents, and passions and apply them to some project/job/career/mission from which others are likely to benefit. If you do this effectively, you'll end up helping the world and the world will end up helping you take care of yourself. The work you do doesn't have to be anything extravagant, it just needs to be something you can do that feels healthy and rewarding to you. It also doesn't need to be long term, you can try doing temp work, or taking on contract work, or create a business for yourself either full time, or part time. As long as you are offering the world something that it can use, the world will offer you things that you can use, in return. Maybe you'll get money, or maybe you'll get housing, or food, or companionship, or education! As long as you are open to getting all of it (and not just the money), you'll find that the universe has a heck of a lot to offer you! Peace, Love, and Bicycles, Turtle | |
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Thanks Steve, I'm really grateful for this amazing post. I was wondering, is wanting to conquer my own mind and to have self mastery love or fear based? it seems that self-mastery can be attained via either polarization. What polarisation would someone like roman emperoror Marcus Aurelius have? He conquered and fended off opponents, he ran his country the way he saw best, but from reading his journal I've learned that it was all based on an intention to serve his people. What about the US general who conquered Japan in WW2? I remember that he had said "in all of my past lives, I was a conquerer and my objective was to bring civilisation to humanity." (paraphrase). I would think these would both be love based, but would still like to hear your opinion on them. Thanks |
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For several years of my life I have refused to engage in anything in any depth because of this "problem" with polarization. I knew what the "problem" but that didn't make it any easier. The answer was really quite simple. I was of the "Dark force" it was in my nature, always has been, and since the point when I realized this in my late teens, I have proceeded to sabotage almost everything I've done. And why ? Because I was afraid of myself. The dark force is neither good nor evil and contrary to the gist of Steve's blog, the dark force is not fear based either. It is really quite simple. The dark force is the force that finds it's expression through "the journey into the heart of the darkness." It is neither evil nor fear based but it is a force that must derive it's fuel from it's discourse with fear. It is what Raymond Chandler is dreaming when he writes "Down those mean streets a man must go,.." and the bit which is often very conveniently forgotten "who is neither afraid nor tarnished." This is the central problem of the dark force. One must know one's self before embarking along this path for along this way the price of "failure" is very high. Not just for oneself but for whoever and whatever is in one's proximity. Despite all this. The dark force is a beautiful force. It is the force that built this world as we know it. The computer on which you're reading this blog is of the dark force. All civilisation as we know it is in essence of the dark force. Modern technology, medicine and almost all the arts are of the dark force. The dark force is that which issues forth and engages with the world and with men as they are in all forms. The dark force is the form that created the need for the 23rd psalm "the lord is my shepherd,.." The dark force is that which has brought such beauty into the world as we know it by manipulation of the worlds many and various materials. (from earth to sound and light) Any "sophistication" is by nature of that self same dark force. The dark force at it's pinnacle is light itself. The same light as is the pinnacle of the "light" force just that it's path is more arduous and torturous. It is a light that is thrust forth, that is created by first sinking deep into the darkness from which it must burst forth as if flung from a catapult. It is that which must go inwards first before coming out. That is all that it is. It is the force of "man". The way of the God within the man by way of the man. If you believe we are incarnate here of our own spiritual will it is primarily because our "consciousness" is desirous of this dark force. Of the experience of the path of the dark force. Of the challenge and deliciousness of the dark path. To be able to sink into that dark and bring forth light. What magic, what absolutely divine and sublime magic. The main problem of the dark pathway is this - if one is "afraid or tarnished" the descent is into "hell" He who loses his way along this path is capable of anything, the deepest and most inhuman cruelty. This is one of the perils of the dark path. He who travels along this path lays himself open and is susceptible if not adequately prepared. He must have laser like vision and accurate cardinal inner compass for all he sees cannot be trusted. Erins dream of the battle against the 10? evils is just another emanation of the dark path. Ultimately the pathways of the two forces are like trying to walk from one end of the diameter of a circle to the other but by taking opposite halves. Hitler was an emanation of the dark force as is Ghandi and what a difference in the two. One got lost the other didn't. That is the nature of the dark path and of our beautiful matchless world If you are sure of yourself and well prepared there is nothing to fear about this path just read the 23rd psalm. Thanks |
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I have to applaud Steve for this blog post. I am a darkworker, as Steve put it, and I have been for a long time. When I was a kid I used to attempt to conceal and otherwise fight what I was ((there is a lot of bias in society against folks like me) but every time I tried to do the “right thing” it seemed to make things worse, rather than better. On top of that, I knew, deep down that it was just an act. The whole thing seemed forced and the concept that is typically known as “goodness” didn’t make much sense to me. I eventually found that just being myself, which is admittedly somewhat selfish, antisocial and perhaps occasionally predatory, worked much better and made me a lot happier. It was just a more natural approach for me. Though, I’m not surprised that many of the people in these forums don’t seem to understand this concept, I am pleased that as a self help professional, Steve does. Although, the darkworker polarity which Steve is referring to, maybe more immoral (by traditional and mainstream standards) it is not, necessarily bad. Everything in nature has its purpose, even individuals like me. The trick is to step out of notions of good and evil and understand that everything has its place, as well as an upside. If you think about it, a well polarized lightworker shouldn’t have any problem with a darkworker; the lightworker takes pleasure from giving, and the darkworker enjoys receiving. The same applies to how a well adjusted darkworker feels about a lightworker. There should be no conflict here. The problem arises from the confusion of not choosing. And I believe that this is where a lot of good and evil line drawing comes in. On the one hand a person may want to be selfish sometimes, and yet charitable at other times. Practicality in one hand, and charity in the other; with a whole lot of guilt and confusion in between. Only by embracing one polarity, can a person truly understand the importance of the other. I believe that this is what Steve is getting at. Another observation I have, is that despite what some of you may think about some of the words Steve uses to describe the character darkworker, such as greed, power, lust, selfishness etc. These are only negative in the context a very narrow social perspective. And I personally find this type of terminology very appealing (I use these sorts of words in my daily affirmations all the time, and I love them). For someone like me the idea of gaining more power is, well, empowering. Although, I will not deny that I’m probably not going to help improve the world in any kind of direct way, let us not forget that villains are often catalyst for change and they help prevent social and cultural stagnation. What would creation have to build on, if you were to completely blot out destruction? In a bizarre, indirect, sort of way, dark ”evil” individuals are just as important as light “good” ones. I’d also like to point out that, although folks like me many have a similar philosophy and world view, as the emperor in Star Wars; it would be a mistake to assume that we share the same angry temperaments. Remember, in a world in which sadness, frustration, and pain can be so common; happiness can be an utterly selfish indulgence for some, just as it is a contagious remedy for others. |
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I gave because I had a fear-based motivation. I was afraid I wasn't good enough so as long as I gave gave gave I could avoid facing my fear that I wasn't a good enough person. I attracted fear based people to me who were wiling to participate in my personal drama by taking & taking until I had enough & looked for a real change. If you look up Jung's archetypes they discuss negative rescuers & martyrs. I was guided to that by several counselors & read it & recognized it in myself. Since my giving wasn't about a love based motivation such as "I give to help those in the world with their suffering" or "I give so that this child may have dinner tonight" my consequences were not ones that a love-based intention would have derived. Does this make sense? So as long as I gave out of a negative reason to try to satisfy my own insecurities it wasn't really loving. It was actually fear based. Actually I ultimately realized that to be truly loving (this is thanks to several codependency books I read!) I needed allow the takers in my life to experience the consequences of whatever self-destructive actions they were participating in & ultimately participate in "tough love." I did so & it changed my life dramatically. At the time I had no clue how to apply my knowledge of manifestation to my experience of this but now Steve's posting has cleared up my confusion tremendously. Thank you very much Steve! Your posting has explained some interesting quandaries I had been muddling over recently & I asked the universe to guide me to some answers & they sent me to your post. Specifically I was confused why some people were able to be fear based so heavily yet gain tremendous wealth & power despite opposition from others who recognized their fear based motivations. Now your post has cleared up this question. They are able to manifest their wealth because they are more polarized & conscious. Interesting! I had believed up until this point that "good perseveres & that the universe only rewards those who are good to others" yet there was much factual evidence to suggest that that is not always the case. I will be looking forward very much to your practical guide on how to apply polarization & I would like more clarification on what the different benefits/consequences of each polarization of fear vs. love. Thanks again! | |
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@John Prophet: You described the dark side beautifully. I don't think most people can comprehend its appeal unless they've come to terms with the darkness within themselves. After deciding to polarize, one's understanding of and respect for the opposite choice only deepens. Although they take different paths, ultimately the dark side and the light side both lead to the same place. |
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This post gave me much more clarity on how to focus intention better simply by knowing which polarity I choose using. Plus i find it utterly amusing that today for no reason at all I decided to watch star wars for the first time in years before I read this post, lol |
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John Prophet - Thanks so much for your post. My youngest son (who, admittedly, is still very young) can be kind of a... jerk. I have felt from the time he was born that it was my job to accept the choices he made. From the time he was two, and let me know he REALLY wanted to eat meat (I'm a vegetarian), to now, when he can be really selfish and non-empathetic. Not that I don't set boundaries *for myself*, because of course I do, but I've known it's not my place to try to make him be someone he's not. Here's a great post from Erin: What If I Want to be Evil I have let my son know that there will be consequences for his actions - not imposed by me, but as a result of being not so friendly - and he has already experienced some of that. I'm interested to see where his life leads him... |
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Is it possible to use a different polarity for each intention you want to manifest, or must you use the same polarity for every intention. Like if I wanted to use outflow on one intention, and inflow on another..will they cancel out regarldess if there being used for different intentions?
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I don't believe the question is about which direction energy is flowing... despite what Steve says, balance will be achieved. An equal amount is flowing out as is flowing in. The question is, which direction are you pushing? Do you push out, so that the universe pushes around in a loop and back in to achieve balance? Or do you pull in, so that the universe reaches around back and pulls out to achieve balance? Either way, the results will look the same. If you push good things out, then good things will come into your life, and you can decide whether that's a new car, a vacation, health, or whatever. If you pull a new car, a vacation, better health or whatever into your life, then some price will be exacted. Either way, you end up with a car/vacation/health, and paid out in some benefit to the rest of the universe. Both ways work; you just have to apply the force. The problem comes with trying to push and pull at the same time. If you push energy out and then pull it in and then push it out.... you'll end up with vacillating energies and thoughts, but very little accomplished. (Until you learn to harness the power of alternating current. I also started a thread to discuss specifically the myths and facts about darkworkers. I figure it's related, but different enough we don't want it cluttering up this thread. (Plus it's likely to be controversial, and I don't want to start arguments here.) |
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