Steve pavlina seems to think really highly of himself

[nziller]

I like Steve Pavlina alot. He is smart and has interesting ideas. But, sometimes it seems like he takes himself really seriously and doesn't think he has any faults. Does anyone else get this feeling?

[blossom]

What do you think his faults are?

[Plato]

Well, he talks like a perfect being in his blog posts doesn't he.

Says he gets better results/has more of an impact that way.
I only skim over it nowadays cos I don't like reading stuff that makes me feel inadequate. Especially when I'm feeling vulnerable cos I'm liable to give my power away to authorities who promise some kind of solution, especially when it's put as convincingly as Steve does in his blogs.

[nziller]

Oh so thats a method of his? I think he would be more effective if he would sometimes admit some faults. Like how polyamory kind of ruined his marriage. Or did he post about that? not sure.

[Federer]

Follow the procedure LOA, you'll get there. Then you'll realize where people see and how they find negative points of good people.

[Plato]

Haha, well I guess we differ on that point, nziller. I just start thinking I have to measure up to all sorts of arbitrary standards from reading the blog, which is my personal way of making myself miserable.

Gonna stop talking about Steve in front of his back now. Hi Steve!

[blossom]

Originally Posted by nziller

Oh so thats a method of his? I think he would be more effective if he would sometimes admit some faults. Like how polyamory kind of ruined his marriage. Or did he post about that? not sure.

Oooh, sassy wench! Are you the self-proclaimed resident truthsayer? Are you a scorpio by any chance?

[nziller]

lol cancer actually. ok yeah I'm done talking **** about steve. If i weren't a fan I wouldn't be here haha. I didn't know that that was a method of his to kind of pretend to be perfect for his blog. That was just something a bit irritating to me about his posts.I thought he actually thought he was perfect.

[Plato]

Well, don't hold back on my account. No need to keep stuff trapped inside, baby. Let it out.

p.s. I'm not sure it's healthy to be a fan... or follower... or anything like that. Steve's blog is valuable when viewed as a source of provocation than, truth or something.

[nziller]

well i didn't mean like FAN but i definately like this blog. i've been reading since like 2006

[brendannz]

I think Steve Pavlina's talked about how polyamory and his divorce in his blog about the divorce..

As well, he talks about his weaknesses being his fashion sense, and not being musically minded to play an instrument or something..

He's quite egotistical indeed, and talks about that being a good thing. I guess that's the downfall of his blog, if people really read into it religiously, or adapt it to their own lifes, and take up what's useful and what isn't useful to them. Which is really like all self-improvement material I guess.

Gotta be your own authority figure..

[blossom]

Originally Posted by brendannz

Gotta be your own authority figure..

You said it mister

[supertom]

Basically what we're reading is a lifetime of personal growth, thats where it got him to where he is, and thats what we can be also.

but to answer your question yes he thinks highly of himself

[smilodon]

In mine mind, when you are a person you want to be, you have no "faults".

No personality traits are inherently good or bad, our perceptions make them so.

Some people may consider being an egoist bad, but if you consider it as good, you do not see it as a fault, thus that is not a fault in your personality.

Since nothing is good or bad inherently, and if you perceive all your personality traits as good, then you might sound like Steve - like you have no faults, because in your mind you don't .

You may shift from thinking a trait is good to thinking it is bad. Then for a brief while, until you change it, you have a fault, but when you do change that trait - you are again with no faults.

Of course, many people will and will not like your traits, and perceive them differently than you - and that is ok, as long as you go along with your perception of your traits, rather than someone elses perception.

[blossom]

This is all fine and dandy if the person is balanced in mind, body and spirit. If they're not though, egotism can be harmful to others around them, which the person is totally oblivious of because they think they are the beez knees!

Originally Posted by smilodon

In mine mind, when you are a person you want to be, you have no "faults".

No personality traits are inherently good or bad, our perceptions make them so.

Some people may consider being an egoist bad, but if you consider it as good, you do not see it as a fault, thus that is not a fault in your personality.

Since nothing is good or bad inherently, and if you perceive all your personality traits as good, then you might sound like Steve - like you have no faults, because in your mind you don't .

You may shift from thinking a trait is good to thinking it is bad. Then for a brief while, until you change it, you have a fault, but when you do change that trait - you are again with no faults.

Of course, many people will and will not like your traits, and perceive them differently than you - and that is ok, as long as you go along with your perception of your traits, rather than someone elses perception.

[spirit4711]

Originally Posted by nziller

... That was just something a bit irritating to me about his posts.

Why does it irritate you? I think if you find the answer to that one, you'll get further than when you just let yourself be irritated. By Steve in this case.

I thought he actually thought he was perfect.

Maybe he does. So what? Anything wrong with that?

[Aleksander Krstic]

Originally Posted by spirit4711

Maybe he does. So what? Anything wrong with that?

Exactly. Perhaps he's just really happy about his life.

Also he said poly didnt ruin his marriage.

[Mounds]

I'll admit the blog isn't to my taste. I might have read one or two full articles. Same idea as Plato, makes me feel inadequate. Not Steve's fault, PD material just has that effect on me.
To answer the original poster's question, consider that the blog is about his personal experience, no one else's. So it's not unfounded that he talks about himself.
I consider myself perfect! Why would I settle for any less?

[blossom]

I could be wrong here, but I can;t help but think that it could only be ' making you feel inadequate' if you were comparing yourseflf to Steve? I mean, if he is just rattling on in his own narcisisstic world, and you are all reading it and comparing yourselves to him, then isn't it your doing for creating that feeling of inadequacy? I could just be totally drunk (like I am) and wrong here, as I tend to think these "create your own reality" people can get a bit carried away at times, but it sounds this way to me?
Are you feeling like you are not excelling in some way that you would like to?

Then again, it's possible Steve is smack bang in Ego land and puffing himself up at other peoples expense deliberately to procure their envy of him is what he is getting off on at the moment? Hard to tell really! Maybe this whole Slave/Master thing has gone to his head a bit?

Originally Posted by Mounds

I'll admit the blog isn't to my taste. I might have read one or two full articles. Same idea as Plato, makes me feel inadequate. Not Steve's fault, PD material just has that effect on me.
To answer the original poster's question, consider that the blog is about his personal experience, no one else's. So it's not unfounded that he talks about himself.
I consider myself perfect! Why would I settle for any less?

[cacheborn]

Originally Posted by Mounds

I'll admit the blog isn't to my taste. I might have read one or two full articles. Same idea as Plato, makes me feel inadequate. Not Steve's fault, PD material just has that effect on me.
To answer the original poster's question, consider that the blog is about his personal experience, no one else's. So it's not unfounded that he talks about himself.
I consider myself perfect! Why would I settle for any less?

It's your choice what to read and what to skip. Just thought that there is a contradiction between

Same idea as Plato, makes me feel inadequate.

and

I consider myself perfect!

I think if you are perfect, you should not feel inadequate.

[Plato]

Originally Posted by spirit4711

Maybe he does. So what? Anything wrong with that?

Steve doesn't think he's perfect.

He's a human being living from a place of authenticity and wholeness. And he wants other people to experience it too. The challenge is communicating it to people who have no idea what you're talking about experientially.

Love you Steve

(God, I'm disgustingly mushy at the moment, I need to go and get in a fight - or is mushiness something to embrace? A shadow? Huh...).

[MidasGirl]

Originally Posted by nziller

. Like how polyamory kind of ruined his marriage.

It did? Who told you that?

[Plato]

Tehee, I do think a lot of people here are suffering from guru worship syndrome.

If you feel an irrational need to defend someone it's probably guru worship. I know. I've given my power away for a long time. Was blind, but now I see... through these dark shades.

[MidasGirl]

LMAO Plato. If that's directed at me, I have only this for you

I'm probably one of the few people here that challenge Steve whenever he posts stuff that seem way off. So take your guru worship snark and put a sock in it

[spirit4711]

Originally Posted by MidasGirl

I'm probably one of the few people here that challenge Steve whenever he posts stuff that seem way off. So take your guru worship snark and put a sock in it

'Me thinks the lady doth protest too much' - Shakespeare.

[MidasGirl]

I'm asking a serious question, how nziller knows that polyamory kind of ruined Steve's marriage.........which she stated as very much a fact.

[Plato]

Alright, alright, just checking.

[MidasGirl]

Originally Posted by spirit4711

'Me thinks the lady doth protest too much' - Shakespeare.

'Me thinks the gentleman doth protest just as much'

[Plato]

Originally Posted by spirit4711

'Me thinks the lady doth protest too much' - Shakespeare.

Hey, you might be right.

I take it back.

MidasGirl, consider this an intervention. You're going to guru rehab!

[Plato]

Originally Posted by MidasGirl

I'm asking a serious question, how nziller knows that polyamory kind of ruined Steve's marriage.........which she stated as very much a fact.

Well, from a certain perspective it did catalyse the end. It's the word "ruined" I would disagree with.