Seriously help me out - save me

[VeryConfused]

I feel like I'm going crazy from reading all this.
I don't like the thought that I'm god, cause it can't be that way.
I can't have caused all the suffering in the world, that is absurd.
I've always been afraid of going mental, and by reading this it just ************s me sooo much more up.
Please explain this, cause if it's like we're responsible for all the suffering we should just quit on life but we can't do that.
So please save me

[Adrienne]

I don’t think you need to be saved.

It is a horrible thought isn’t? We are the world we have created. We might be peaceful but somewhere inside of us we aren’t. It is a hard concept to swallow. I have the luxury that I have always believed this for as long as I can remember. I did not know the word or the term how it was referred to, I could explain it that I am everyone and I am responsible for everything.

Quitting life? How do you come to that conclusion? How about this.. I created it, so I have the power to stop it. Think of it as a challenge, a whole different level of challenge, to bring yourself together in a whole new way. A whole world of consciousness it out there for me to figure out, why would that make me want to end my life?

If you accept subjective reality, then also accept you have all the power. You created it so start changing it. If you accept this view point, here are the two choices (everything else is a combination of the two main choices)
1. Live in fear. You accept you create all this, but now it is so out of hand, fear, sadness, confusion of how you could do this to yourself fills your life. Life continued to spin out of control because you have given into the fear that permeates so many people (aka parts of your consciousness) already. You become the very thing in the world you were confused about, disliked, and were worried about.
2. Be empowered by it. If everything is you, and you are everything, then I can change it. Start being the change you want to see. Everyone is an extension of you. Every time you act (when you cut someone off on the road, hurt someone’s feelings, help someone, help an animal, plant a tree), you are hurting or helping yourself. So why not always help yourself? You have the power change it, so do so.

Now which path you choose is up to you. So what do you want to do? Wallow in fear and sadness? Take the metaphorical bull by the horns and change the world?

Choice is yours.

Adrienne

[eternomi]

Originally Posted by VeryConfused

I can't have caused all the suffering in the world, that is absurd.

We hardly ever think to what extent we are effecting the world we live in. What is the cost of eating meat? What is the cost of driving gasoline operated vehicles? What is the cost of using plastics? I am not talking about monetary cost here. Everything we do starts a chain reaction and most of the time people are unaware of what that reaction is and how it might come back to bite them. OR the effects are long term and noone cares until it starts to become a "visible" problem.

The bottomline is, just think hard about what your actions are doing to the world, and correct whatever you can.

All this personal development material (and supposedly religion as well) tells you, you need to be proactive. There is no "god up there" that will come down or send his angels to save our butts, in this world or another ones.

[VeryConfused]

I can agree that I'm a PART of it all, but not that I'm ALL.
Think about it, both you are real persons, aren't you?
I came into your reality, didn't I?
We as persons make the world, but not one of us alone, right?

[Lychee]

I feel like I'm going crazy from reading all this.
I don't like the thought that I'm god, cause it can't be that way.
I can't have caused all the suffering in the world, that is absurd.
I've always been afraid of going mental, and by reading this it just ************s me sooo much more up.
Please explain this, cause if it's like we're responsible for all the suffering we should just quit on life but we can't do that.
So please save me

VeryConfused,

Obviously you are quite distressed over this since you've made your nickname "VeryConfused." But right now your thoughts are clouded by fear and you are irrational so you cannot take whatever you are thinking and accept it 100%. The mind cannot be trusted completely during times like this since we have the tendency to exaggerate and stress over many ideas.

First, you must calm down. Your head might be buzzing with activity and your heart may be uneasy, but relax. Take a breather otherwise all this stress will have an adverse effect on you.

I personally believe that none of us are God. We have not created the world, we are not the lawmaker, we have limited ability. We are at the mercy of a greater power.

No, you yourself did not cause all the problems in the world. Right now your mind is not thinking logically because you are afraid but just think about this - are you responsible for the death of some random person on the other side of the world? Are you solely responsible for deforestation? There are other people on this earth too and we are all contributing to what is happening.

There is no deviation in law in nature but we do deviate from law which is why we experience negative effects. The world right now is experiencing negative effects because of us. We are doing something wrong, which is becoming evident to us through the physical world.

We all have our own view of reality, but we are not separate from one another. We are all one, a unit. We are and we aren't alone. We are alone in the sense that I cannot experience life the way you experience life, but we can share our life experiences together. We are individuals, but we are not separate. What harms one harms the whole. What helps one helps the whole.

[goodstyles]

VeryConfused.....as I read this forum, I find it overwhelming also. You're not alone. But I've learned that that's not because of the new concepts that are presented, new ideas and ground-breaking paradigm shifts. I've found that it comes with taking on peoples' comments and opinions as your own without realising it. If someone tells you that

you are god

and then launches into to a spiel for the rest of their post based on that principle, it's easy to forget the foundations upon which the spiel was written and accept part(s) , or all, of the spiel - inadvertently accepting the underlying position of the post.

Equally so if someone says

none of us are God

. Maybe they're right, maybe they're wrong. The question is, do you buy into it or not?

Before you get too distressed, work out what's distressing you. Is it the beliefs that you are suddenly faced with and have inadvertently adopted, or guilt over them, or what? There's nothing here to say anyone is right here, and that you've been wrong all your life, or you should feel guilty, etc. etc.
Just follow your own path dude...

Another example is in this post:

We all have our own view of reality, but we are not separate from one another. We are all one, a unit.

Here is another paradigm that if you blindly accept what they're saying, given that it's a stark contrast to where you are now, you wind up flipping your world on its head because you haven't worked through what this means exactly. There's nothing for you to say they're right or wrong, you just have to take your time and work through it all...

My advice... it's nothing to do with telling you how I view the world, god, etc. etc., but just for you to be careful how you read these forums. Because that's all they are: forums. People 'talking'.

P.

[Honky_Spiritbird]

Ease up, Confusation.

I freaked for a couple days after mulling over this same possibility.

Remember this above everything: If you are indeed controller of ALL things in this universe [and I can assure you are not], if there was a trial held to try and prosecute you for all the world's suffering that you have caused-- you would be found innocent.

You would have had no idea what you were doing, and you had no evil intent. Of course if you knew you were responsible you would have stopped it.

Try and enjoy your ride more and more each day.

[nantucketsunset]

Hey VeryConfused,

Darlin', I know where you are coming from. Do not worry -- I think these people talking about these ideas are performing "thought experiments" -- it's an interesting concept, but I'm firmly of the view that I am just a part of the world and not the creator and totality of it. I don't even accept responsibility for everything that happens to me, as some new agers would propose, because I feel some of it is just chance and some of it is due to others' negative intents.

With an idea like this one, you have to be on one side or the other = some people are exploring the other belief and what that might mean for them, and that is fine. However, you do not have to even think about it as a philosophical concept if you don't want to. You can avoid these posts and get your balance back. Think about other topics. Do not allow yourself to feel insecure in yourself, or afraid of life--no one here wishes that upon you, and it is not healthy.

(even if their damnfool notion is true! ...which it isn't, ha)

[Jaben]

Who are you? If a potential answer to this question drives you crazy, put it aside and find an answer that empowers you. The answer will probably change as you become more conscious.