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theorique · 02-22-2010, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Rachelle

For reals?
It seems pretty light hearted to me.

I agree. I think it depends on where you work (e.g. church, North Korea, etc). Based on some of the stuff that goes back and forth at my workplace, I'm not talking about me.

I imagine most people here on the forums are pretty openminded, of course.

-jack

PS. Good avatar pic!

Ron Stoppable · 02-22-2010, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Nameless One

Don't forget to tip the waiter.

And Erin, for explaining this years ago.

NDavid · 02-22-2010, 08:51 PM

Okay, squirt me with your pistol if you must, but I've placed my exact order consistently with the waiter and I still haven't recieved what I ordered, I'm about ready to storm into the kitchen and just take my food!

Lupe · 02-22-2010, 09:09 PM

Quote:

The problem occurs if you keep changing some part of your order before they bring it to you.

Could you explain this with real life examples?

Lauxa · 02-22-2010, 10:20 PM

Thanks Steve, this post was timely for me. It made me remember and reaffirm the specific job "order" I am working on -- a job doing web application development in the education sector -- and I had some opportunities to network on this in the course of some other business development today. We'll just have to see if any of those bear fruit, but having this goal in mind and taking those opportunities made my day a little brighter.

OlderWiser · 02-23-2010, 06:55 AM

I enjoyed the subtle Monty Python reference.

Tolemac7 · 02-23-2010, 07:36 AM

Hello Steve. First direct post to you and this blog post is what brought me here. Love the analogy, as it's basic and dead easy for most people to understand and apply. My friend Stuart Wilde used to say it was the Universal Warehouse, but it's the same difference.

While I was reading it, I started to see how I could use this idea as a guided meditation for my healing clients. I know they'll "get it" right away and have fun with it, which is part of the point. Going out to eat is, for most people, enjoyable, so why not use that positive emotion to then help manifest what we want.

Now I have the enjoyable task of going back over your previous blogs and podcasts to see what other gems I'll find.

BTW, am I allowed to post this blog to my blog, or just link to it?

Thanks!

Ross - Tolemac

RagsToRiches · 02-23-2010, 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina

Another thing to consider is whether or not the whole meal makes sense. Do the items go together, or will you end up with indigestion?

So you're saying that intentions have to be harmonious? That makes perfect sense.

Cheers Steve, good stuff.

Berrie · 02-23-2010, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Ron Stoppable

And Erin, for explaining this years ago.

Seriously. I was just going to ask why you'd repeat everything that's once been posted. I totally remembered this podcast (yet oddly couldn't remember if it was Steve's or Erin's. .-.)

Savage · 02-23-2010, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Berrie

Seriously. I was just going to ask why you'd repeat everything that's once been posted. I totally remembered this podcast (yet oddly couldn't remember if it was Steve's or Erin's. .-.)

I'll keep repeating it till everyone applies it correctly.

James81 · 02-23-2010, 05:08 PM

Ok, so I just read this post...

My initial reaction is that the I liked the overall message and that it's something I need to hear...especially the "make up your damned mind already!" part of it.

However, I DID find myself wondering as I read this about one measly little detail...

It's interesting to me that the message is to be specific on what you want, but you are NOT specific on who you want it from.

Shouldn't there be a bit a reciprocity in this regard? I always get a charge when people use the term "universe" as something you can ask for things. To me, to use your own analogy, that would be like going into the restaraunt and referring to your waitress/waitor as "restaraunt."

Wouldn't it be ridiculous for you to refer to your waiter/waitress as "restaraunt"? To me that sounds ridiculous.

James81 · 02-23-2010, 05:11 PM

Or to put what I was saying above more clearly...

Isn't it more effective to not only know HOW to place your order, but WHO to place your order to?

I mean, well-wishes on the moon are great and romantic and all, but the moon isn't going to bring you a new car. But the car dealer will. The bank will. Your customers will. Etc.

Ohabu · 02-23-2010, 05:49 PM

Thank you Steve. For this article, and for all the things I've learned from you.

Adam Elkins · 02-23-2010, 08:08 PM

@James81 if you can get to the Moon, the new car will be trivial. Speaking of which...

Smarky · 02-23-2010, 09:30 PM

I'm being dumb, I still don't get it.

If I'm in a restaurant a waiter will come up to me and ask what I want and i'll just tell them.

Where is this waiter in life? How do i give my order? who am I giving it to?

Should I be asking myself what do I want and then rattling off a list? Then what? Do i keep asking myself that or do i just forget about it and wait?

I'm guessing you don't completely forget about it, because you wouldn't do that at a restaurant, you'd remember what you'd ordered and you'd be waiting for it to arrive and thinking about it and picturing it from time to time while it was being prepared for you.

Jale · 02-23-2010, 10:18 PM

Right on Steve ! I really get this one. Lately I have been getting the results of all these different manifestations. I am grateful for each and every one. I am getting the ordering process a bit more refined. Recently a huge opportunity came up and it looked just like what was ordered. What a surprise when it came to the table. It will take a lot to digest this one. So be it, I ordered it and I am going to savor it. I am going to build a new vision board and now with what I know about ordering properly. It may help. It may not, but what the hell, I am very happy so far. My wish is that more people know what they want and order it. Did you know you can always get Chinese broccoli at a Chinese restaurant even if it is not on the menu? Did you know you can get it with any sauce you want or none at all?

ellie · 02-23-2010, 11:31 PM

Quote:

That contrast between what you received and how you feel about it will give you a better sense of what you actually do want. Then you can make a better guess and take another stab at placing an order. From article

I like this idea, I think many times we don't order what we want, is because we are scared that the order we get is the one we have to stick with. But I like that we can learn from what we order and fine-tune our next meal based on our last order.

I've started a thread with orders here
So what have you ordered?

granted · 02-24-2010, 12:40 AM

Great Post.

Just what I needed to read at this exact point in my life.

Thanks for the clarity Steve.

I'm hungry...

bright · 02-24-2010, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina

Your question contains a false assumption I don't subscribe to (i.e. that I must equate beliefs with my identity). So I cannot answer it because it's a nonsensical question to me. Beliefs are lenses. I can pick them up and look through them or put them down and look past them. No need to turn them into my identity either way.

Best answer I can give to your question is: When I choose to.

If I were to factually ask you whether there is a god or not, what would you say?

I.e if we're talking about facts rather than beliefs - e.g in all circumstances its a fact that the earth is spherical and that gravity pulls things down, etc, then would you consider the existence of god to be such a fact or not?

Savage · 02-24-2010, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bright

If I were to factually ask you whether there is a god or not, what would you say?

I.e if we're talking about facts rather than beliefs - e.g in all circumstances its a fact that the earth is spherical and that gravity pulls things down, etc, then would you consider the existence of god to be such a fact or not?

If you were to do that, then I'd have to factually ask you whether I'm rolling my eyes at you clockwise or counterclockwise for not being very "bright."

The earth isn't spherical btw. Look into it.

newmark · 02-24-2010, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smarky

I'm being dumb, I still don't get it.

If I'm in a restaurant a waiter will come up to me and ask what I want and i'll just tell them.

Where is this waiter in life? How do i give my order? who am I giving it to?

Should I be asking myself what do I want and then rattling off a list? Then what? Do i keep asking myself that or do i just forget about it and wait?

I'm guessing you don't completely forget about it, because you wouldn't do that at a restaurant, you'd remember what you'd ordered and you'd be waiting for it to arrive and thinking about it and picturing it from time to time while it was being prepared for you.

Explore this website more. Look at the articles on manifesting intentions and law of attraction.

bright · 02-24-2010, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina

If you were to do that, then I'd have to factually ask you whether I'm rolling my eyes at you clockwise or counterclockwise for not being very "bright."

The earth isn't spherical btw. Look into it.

Come on, don't ignore the question!

If we were talking about facts rather than beliefs, like gravity is a fact, and obama being the president of US is a fact, would you consider the existence of god to be a fact or not?

ellie · 02-24-2010, 10:06 PM

So would you be quite specific, in time frames too? Like seeker ordered lot of sex and and awesome job in this thread So what have you ordered?

Now he could get lots of sex, but it could be bad sex at the same time :P and he could get an awesome job but in like 50 years time

So how specific would you be?

Savage · 02-24-2010, 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bright

Come on, don't ignore the question!

If we were talking about facts rather than beliefs, like gravity is a fact, and obama being the president of US is a fact, would you consider the existence of god to be a fact or not?

Apparently it's clockwise.

Lupe · 02-24-2010, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by steve

The problem occurs if you keep changing some part of your order before they bring it to you.

What would be some real life example of keep changing orders?

aabbcc · 02-24-2010, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ellie

So would you be quite specific, in time frames too? ... So how specific would you be?

When I 'order' something, I don't include a time or date. I am becoming pretty good at manifesting, but I haven't been successful in that area. Usually, the manifestation will occur just outside the time frame. I kind of feel like the Universe is yanking my chain.

jayh · 02-24-2010, 10:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina

Apparently it's clockwise.

LOL - unless you live on the southern hemisphere, then it's counter clockwise... but that's not a fact...

ellie · 02-24-2010, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aabbcc

When I 'order' something, I don't include a time or date. I am becoming pretty good at manifesting, but I haven't been successful in that area. Usually, the manifestation will occur just outside the time frame. I kind of feel like the Universe is yanking my chain.

Yeah usually it happens outside my timeframe (usually a month or two), so that's why I make my timeframe quite short

James81 · 02-24-2010, 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina

Apparently it's clockwise.

I'm actually still wondering why it's so important to be specific with what we want, but not be specific by who/what we want it from.

bright · 02-25-2010, 12:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina

Apparently it's clockwise.

Why don't you answer the question?

02-23-2010, 10:18 PM	#76 (permalink)
Jale Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 1	Right on Steve ! I really get this one. Lately I have been getting the results of all these different manifestations. I am grateful for each and every one. I am getting the ordering process a bit more refined. Recently a huge opportunity came up and it looked just like what was ordered. What a surprise when it came to the table. It will take a lot to digest this one. So be it, I ordered it and I am going to savor it. I am going to build a new vision board and now with what I know about ordering properly. It may help. It may not, but what the hell, I am very happy so far. My wish is that more people know what they want and order it. Did you know you can always get Chinese broccoli at a Chinese restaurant even if it is not on the menu? Did you know you can get it with any sauce you want or none at all? Last edited by Jale; 02-23-2010 at 10:24 PM.

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02-23-2010, 05:08 PM	#71 (permalink)
James81 Banned Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 12,690	Ok, so I just read this post... My initial reaction is that the I liked the overall message and that it's something I need to hear...especially the "make up your damned mind already!" part of it. However, I DID find myself wondering as I read this about one measly little detail... It's interesting to me that the message is to be specific on what you want, but you are NOT specific on who you want it from. Shouldn't there be a bit a reciprocity in this regard? I always get a charge when people use the term "universe" as something you can ask for things. To me, to use your own analogy, that would be like going into the restaraunt and referring to your waitress/waitor as "restaraunt." Wouldn't it be ridiculous for you to refer to your waiter/waitress as "restaraunt"? To me that sounds ridiculous.

02-23-2010, 05:11 PM	#72 (permalink)
James81 Banned Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 12,690	Or to put what I was saying above more clearly... Isn't it more effective to not only know HOW to place your order, but WHO to place your order to? I mean, well-wishes on the moon are great and romantic and all, but the moon isn't going to bring you a new car. But the car dealer will. The bank will. Your customers will. Etc.

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Ohabu Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Norway Posts: 24	Thank you Steve. For this article, and for all the things I've learned from you.

02-23-2010, 08:08 PM	#74 (permalink)
Adam Elkins Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: England Posts: 43	@James81 if you can get to the Moon, the new car will be trivial. Speaking of which...

02-23-2010, 09:30 PM	#75 (permalink)
Smarky Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 262	I'm being dumb, I still don't get it. If I'm in a restaurant a waiter will come up to me and ask what I want and i'll just tell them. Where is this waiter in life? How do i give my order? who am I giving it to? Should I be asking myself what do I want and then rattling off a list? Then what? Do i keep asking myself that or do i just forget about it and wait? I'm guessing you don't completely forget about it, because you wouldn't do that at a restaurant, you'd remember what you'd ordered and you'd be waiting for it to arrive and thinking about it and picturing it from time to time while it was being prepared for you.

02-24-2010, 12:40 AM	#78 (permalink)
granted Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: In Oz on my iPhone Posts: 258	Great Post. Just what I needed to read at this exact point in my life. Thanks for the clarity Steve. I'm hungry...

02-24-2010, 10:06 PM	#83 (permalink)
ellie Family Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 2,432	So would you be quite specific, in time frames too? Like seeker ordered lot of sex and and awesome job in this thread So what have you ordered? Now he could get lots of sex, but it could be bad sex at the same time :P and he could get an awesome job but in like 50 years time So how specific would you be?

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