Broadcast Your Desires (Blog)

[Liz Caitlin]

Originally Posted by Berrie

I'm going to have to second that.

It's not mere annoyance that I feel, I get literally grossed out and can't keep reading, no matter how useful the article may be. I don't mean this in an offensive way, it's very similar to having to picture your father's sex life while reading something potentially useful.

Steve, are you still into helping people? Or is being self-centered more important now?

Can I just say I found this post highly amusing? It's not like I love thinking about my parents having sex, but as a mature adult I'm aware that a) my parents are sexual beings and b) if my parents didn't have sexual urges, I wouldn't exist. If my dad had a sex blog, I wouldn't read it, but I write about sex all the time on the web & if I ever had kids, I wouldn't stop because they might find it "gross". So in this case I can see the point the poster is trying to make, but it just kinda highlights their immaturity about sex even more in my opinion.

[Liz Caitlin]

Originally Posted by brendannz

I think there's probably quite a few people who don't want to read all about Steve's D/S blogs, (and a lot of people who do) but I also think, it's very easy to stop reading his blogs if you want to, he's not forcing you to read them... You could just say "ahh it's a D/S blog" and then hit the back key on your browser

Exactly! Thank you. I don't get these people who ♥♥♥♥♥ about what Steve writes on his blog...it's HIS blog, people. And you guys call him self-centered...?

[Manomanman]

This is an interesting turn of events.

Rachelle was my roommate from CGW 1 and we both had unique growth experiences. When I asked her why she came to the CGW, she remarked, "Well, I have a lot in common with Steve. We're both raw vegan, etc. etc. and I think he's a cool guy." She was focused on Steve - I was focused on finding a direction in life. It's interesting how the different values that we reflect off of Steve motivate us to come to the workshop and continue down the paths we end up taking.

I was definitely surprised to see her on the cover of your blog

[Manomanman]

I desire the following:

1. I want to live in a world where humans are no longer coopted as slave labor for giant multinational corporations. I want to see the "rat race" come to an end forever.

2. I want to see more beauty in the world.

3. I want to see the world enter into a more sustainable era. In other words, I want to see solar energy perfected, fuel cells perfected, and true AI + nanomanufacturing perfected.

4. I want people to live more consciously and share in the truth. I want to see lying politicians booed and ousted for good.

5. I desire to have someone cook and clean for me in exchange for money so I can devote more time to items 1-4.

6. I desire financial abundance so I can help make items 1-5 real.

In other words, I desire to have my vision of a brighter future physically manifested.

[Zach M]

Nice List, Manomanman.

[munish]

Originally Posted by steve pavlina

question is: When will you choose to stop reading/complaining about someone else's sharing (esp. Where there's a clear and obvious demand for it)...

[ellie]

Originally Posted by Manomanman

I desire the following:

1. I want to live in a world where humans are no longer coopted as slave labor for giant multinational corporations. I want to see the "rat race" come to an end forever.

I actually am starting to see this shift already. I think there is a lot of people that feel the same way. Has anyone noticed this, or am I only seeing what I want to see? I believe in the not too distant future, the normal 40 hour week will be the thing of the past. Too many people are getting burnt-out and starting to switch on that there's more to life than work.

[MidasGirl]

Originally Posted by ellie

I actually am starting to see this shift already. I think there is a lot of people that feel the same way. Has anyone noticed this, or am I only seeing what I want to see? I believe in the not too distant future, the normal 40 hour week will be the thing of the past. Too many people are getting burnt-out and starting to switch on that there's more to life than work.

I don't believe it will ever happen (and I tend to be a very optimistic person). But as long as the chasm between the rich and the poor keeps widening, there will always be big corporations that own slave labor.

[PaulV]

It's really not the people that know that they are slaves that are the real problem, but the ones that don't realize that they are. We have liberty and democracy and all that jazz, but really this is just a distraction to the fact that we are still slaves, we just get to choose between the salt mines and the tar pits. But we are still born into a society that conditions us to behave in certain ways, and it's extremely hard to even notice that certain parts of our behavior stem from that more than our individual preferences.

[Savage]

Originally Posted by MidasGirl

I don't believe it will ever happen (and I tend to be a very optimistic person). But as long as the chasm between the rich and the poor keeps widening, there will always be big corporations that own slave labor.

Such situations cannot exist unless large numbers of people remain willing to choose slavery.

[Plato]

Originally Posted by Liz Caitlin

I would have no problem with that

What is this, a slave uprising?

I actually don't have fantasies of domination. I just like having my needs met in a timely fashion. The "lizard" part of my brain gets upset when it sees an attractive woman and there's no extensive action towards sex. And it doesn't like begging or trying to win approval.

Plato see, Plato want, hoo ha grunt.

Originally Posted by Angela

Hey, Liz, I think you're missing some context of that conversation. But that's ok; I think it's complete between me and Plato.

Nothing to complete. XX

Originally Posted by roxyruby

Plato Go to Fetlife or some fetish social community site. There are girls that actually want to play out what you have in mind! Liz: "BDSM FTW!" ^ ^

Well...

Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina

Such situations cannot exist unless large numbers of people remain willing to choose slavery.

If slavery means willingly subjecting yourself to the authority of another then it's not something to be avoided anyway.

Death is the only true release from bondage. We're all slaves to being human: desires, needs, perspectives. Except me. I'm an alien.

[Liz Caitlin]

Originally Posted by Plato

I actually don't have fantasies of domination. I just like having my needs met in a timely fashion. The "lizard" part of my brain gets upset when it sees an attractive woman and there's no extensive action towards sex. And it doesn't like begging or trying to win approval.

Plato see, Plato want, hoo ha grunt.

I still think a D/s relationship might be good for you. Because in that relationship, you see your GF, you want your GF, you get your GF. No questions asked.

And of course, I think every guy should be entitled to foreplay-free quickies every once in awhile...

[Angela]

Originally Posted by Liz Caitlin

I still think a D/s relationship might be good for you. Because in that relationship, you see your GF, you want your GF, you get your GF. No questions asked.

And of course, I think every guy should be entitled to foreplay-free quickies every once in awhile...

Entitled? Is it true that one is entitled to what one desires? That seems like a perspective that ultimately would sabotage effective achievement of one's desires.

[Liz Caitlin]

Originally Posted by Angela

Entitled? Is it true that one is entitled to what one desires? That seems like a perspective that ultimately would sabotage effective achievement of one's desires.

Yup, entitled. I meant that in a fun, playful way. Not in a super-serious discussion of ULTIMATE ACHIEVEMENT OF ONE'S DESIRES. Lol I'm sorry but I get so sick of people jumping on individual words on here & trying to turn it into some big meaningful discussion...can we stop with the silly definition game? I don't think most people, upon reading what I wrote, would think I meant what you just turned it into.

[windsorspirit]

Here are my current desires:

1. For the physical pain I’ve been experiencing since having surgery a few days ago to be completely gone.
2. To be more certain about what I want in my life.
3. To be joyously productive doing only what I like and love to do, which earns me vast financial abundance and serves the greater good.
4. To really enjoy my life as much as I can.
5. To feel truly fulfilled in my life, every day and night.
6. To have a social support network of like-minded and trusted friends, with whom I enjoy passing time.
7. For the above, or something better, to now manifest in my best interests and for the highest good of all.

[Angela]

Originally Posted by Liz Caitlin

Yup, entitled. I meant that in a fun, playful way. Not in a super-serious discussion of ULTIMATE ACHIEVEMENT OF ONE'S DESIRES. Lol I'm sorry but I get so sick of people jumping on individual words on here & trying to turn it into some big meaningful discussion...can we stop with the silly definition game? I don't think most people, upon reading what I wrote, would think I meant what you just turned it into.

Seems to that serious, meaningful discussion of the ultimate achievement of one's desires is one of the things we do here, particularly in a thread that discussion that's explicity about the ultimate achievement of one's desires.

If you'd like me to hear you the way you want to be heard, and you want me to communicate in a way that you don't prefer, telling me you're sick of it, and that it's a silly game, is probably not the best way to ultimately achieve your desire. (A fun and playful response might work better with me.)

[Liz Caitlin]

Originally Posted by Angela

Seems to that serious, meaningful discussion of the ultimate achievement of one's desires is one of the things we do here, particularly in a thread that discussion that's explicity about the ultimate achievement of one's desires.

If you'd like me to hear you the way you want to be heard, and you want me to communicate in a way that you don't prefer, telling me you're sick of it, and that it's a silly game, is probably not the best way to ultimately achieve your desire. (A fun and playful response might work better with me.)

True, true. I suppose I am more sick of OTHER posters who go back and forth on OTHER threads over really ridiculous semantics games & actually avoid the big picture altogether, whereas you were actually using the one word to GET to the big picture. I see the difference now.

And now I must answer your question. No, we are not entitled to our desires...although in another sense, aren't we? Hehe...now I'm curious to hear what you have to say about this.

[PaulV]

I would say we are entitled to our desires, just not entitled to have others cater to them necessarily.

[Angela]

Originally Posted by Liz Caitlin

And now I must answer your question. No, we are not entitled to our desires...although in another sense, aren't we? Hehe...now I'm curious to hear what you have to say about this.

I don't know... I've been looking at the concept of "deserving" lately, which is kind of related, and I'll let you know what I come up with, if anything. I'm not sure I'm totally clear on what it feels like to feel like I "deserve" something. I am totally clear that I know what it feels like to feel "entitled" to something, though, and I'm clear on how ineffectively that tends to work out.

[Bodhi]

I suggested that if you simply want to have sex with someone, you can skip the first date entirely and go straight to the sex. Focus on attracting partners who want the same thing. Don’t broadcast that you want to date someone if you really just want someone to sleep with. There are many people who’d prefer to enjoy a sexual connection first without all the baggage that dating entails. Then if they enjoy the sexual chemistry, they may choose to deepen that connection. However, such people won’t know that you hold the same opinion if you keep quiet about your true desires and blindly follow socially conditioned rules.

I like this.

[shasah]

Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina

Such situations cannot exist unless large numbers of people remain willing to choose slavery.

How is choosing to work for a corporation slavery?? This is one of the things that so many people seem to follow you on, but I disagree wholeheartedly with this. This is not directed at you personally Steve but to all those who subscribe without thinking about the consequences. All of the below you's are general:

Do you own a car? Did you make this car yourself? Did you make all the parts that go into this car?
Do you live in a house or apartment or something similar? Did you make this house yourself? Did you get all the material necessary through barter?
Do you wear clothes bought from a store? Or did you make all your clothes? Did you make the materials to make these clothes?
Do you use a computer? Did you make this computer? Did you make all the parts that go into this computer?
Do you use a bank? play cd's? watch movies? go to sporting events? etc. etc.

Some of the threads above yours talk about getting rid of corporations. Are we going to go back to the 1800's because some people want to be independent of it? And are they truly independent of it?

Why do so many people on this forum try to make me feel guilty because I LIKE my job? I work for a corporation and at this point in time have no desire to open my own business. Could this change? Sure, but why would I want to subject everyone else who does work for someone else with MY desire not to? I think a lot of people just go along with this slavery idea because it is something that you subscribe to. They want to be non-conformists by conforming with your thoughts.

I'm probably going to get a lot of flack for posting this, but I don't choose to be silent on this anymore because if you haven't noticed, it pushes one of my buttons

In conclusion, I work for a corporation and I choose to do so of my own free will. I ENJOY it!! What's wrong with that??

[carlon]

Originally Posted by shasah

In conclusion, I work for a corporation and I choose to do so of my own free will. I ENJOY it!! What's wrong with that??

I agree with you. There's nothing wrong with having a job or working for whoever you want. I've had my own business and worked for a corporation. Each has its good and bad points.

And it's kind of funny when the same people who are anti-corporation will also tell you to start your own business. Maybe just not start a corporation

[carlon]

Originally Posted by shasah

In conclusion, I work for a corporation and I choose to do so of my own free will. I ENJOY it!! What's wrong with that??

I agree with you. There's nothing wrong with having a job or working for whoever you want. I've had my own business and worked for a corporation. Each has its good and bad points.

And it's kind of funny when the same people who are anti-corporation will also tell you to start your own business. Maybe just not a corporation

[shasah]

Originally Posted by carlon

I agree with you. There's nothing wrong with having a job or working for whoever you want. I've had my own business and worked for a corporation. Each has its good and bad points.

And it's kind of funny when the same people who are anti-corporation will also tell you to start your own business. Maybe just not a corporation

I see that you are having the same problems as me tonight with the forums. Can't seem to get my posts through the first time, so I try again and then they both show up.

Glad to know I'm not the only one. (both about the corporations and the posting)

[carlon]

This post makes me think that the general idea seems great (broadcast your desires/let people know what you want) but I couldn't help but disagree with part of the post.

When talking about the consequences of broadcasting desires to people who will not support you, Steve said:

"Say to such people, “I understand that you can’t accept my new direction, but I’m doing this anyway, so if you’re going to oppose me in this, then I’m going to have to drop you from my life. Either you learn to accept this part of me, or we’ll have to each go our separate ways and let go with love, okay?”

Well, I don't think surrounding yourself with yes people is a healthy alternative either. If you surround yourself with enough YES people, then you could lose all sense of perspective.

You NEED some people who are not afraid to be honest with you. If a friend of mine felt the need to do something I thought was unhealthy or harmful, you darn right I would say something, and I'd be a terrible friend if I just let them go without a fight.

Dropping people who disagree with you I think is bad advice all around. I've grown a lot from being around people who challenged me. Hasn't everyone?

[MidasGirl]

Originally Posted by shasah

I work for a corporation and at this point in time have no desire to open my own business.

In conclusion, I work for a corporation and I choose to do so of my own free will. I ENJOY it!! What's wrong with that??

Actually Shasah, I'd wager to say most people who own businesses (and I know cuz I've done both --business and jobbing) are the worst of slaves to their businesses. I even know some business owner slaves that work 16 hour days, 6 days a week. Yes there is this sort of giddiness some people have over reading Steve's railing against jobs. (and I have to admit he does it better than anyone I know) But I really think most people have not the slightest idea the utter commitment it takes to run a successful business.

Steve's cool railing against jobs cuz Steve can start a business with his eyes closed and he'll make it work. But not so for most people. At least based on current evidence, which is all the evidence there is to go by.

That said, I also get riled by people who complain about their jobs incessantly. People who can't wait for Friday and hate Sunday nights cuz it's a few hours before Monday. Staying (long term anyway) in a job you hate is an abomination, whorring one's soul to satisfy the desires of capitalism.

[Savage]

Originally Posted by shasah

How is choosing to work for a corporation slavery?? This is one of the things that so many people seem to follow you on, but I disagree wholeheartedly with this. This is not directed at you personally Steve but to all those who subscribe without thinking about the consequences. All of the below you's are general:

Do you own a car? Did you make this car yourself? Did you make all the parts that go into this car?
Do you live in a house or apartment or something similar? Did you make this house yourself? Did you get all the material necessary through barter?
Do you wear clothes bought from a store? Or did you make all your clothes? Did you make the materials to make these clothes?
Do you use a computer? Did you make this computer? Did you make all the parts that go into this computer?
Do you use a bank? play cd's? watch movies? go to sporting events? etc. etc.

Some of the threads above yours talk about getting rid of corporations. Are we going to go back to the 1800's because some people want to be independent of it? And are they truly independent of it?

Why do so many people on this forum try to make me feel guilty because I LIKE my job? I work for a corporation and at this point in time have no desire to open my own business. Could this change? Sure, but why would I want to subject everyone else who does work for someone else with MY desire not to? I think a lot of people just go along with this slavery idea because it is something that you subscribe to. They want to be non-conformists by conforming with your thoughts.

I'm probably going to get a lot of flack for posting this, but I don't choose to be silent on this anymore because if you haven't noticed, it pushes one of my buttons

In conclusion, I work for a corporation and I choose to do so of my own free will. I ENJOY it!! What's wrong with that??

Like I've said in other threads, I love slaves. You make it sound like I'd want to abolish slavery (corporate or otherwise) and do away with all the benefits, which would be silly. Slaves are awesome and should be held in high regard for the service they provide.

I just think it's more honest to call them slaves rather than employees.

The word "slave" has no effect on free people, but it gets under the skin and helps to wake up those who are living very much like slaves without realizing it.

[Zach M]

Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina

The word "slave" has no effect on free people, but it gets under the skin and helps to wake up those who are living very much like slaves without realizing it.

It also gets under the skin of those who have woken up recently and are still feeling groggy.

[carlon]

Originally Posted by Steve Pavlina

Like I've said in other threads, I love slaves. You make it sound like I'd want to abolish slavery (corporate or otherwise) and do away with all the benefits, which would be silly. Slaves are awesome and should be held in high regard for the service they provide.

I just think it's more honest to call them slaves rather than employees.

The word "slave" has no effect on free people, but it gets under the skin and helps to wake up those who are living very much like slaves without realizing it.

Hmmm...I admit I just got into this forum and don't know the history here. But I feel like someone is about to ask me to join his "downline" or something.

[free spirit]

Awwwww! Steve's in luuuurve! Very pleased for you hunny!