Is Steve still interesting?

[Toine]

What if you are not so much into the whole Intention Manifestation thing or that subjective reality thing, is it still worth visiting Steve's blog?

I mean, he has lots of practical information on his site before his IM 'phase', that's what got me interested, but now everything seems to lead towards the same old topic...

[Dani]

Originally Posted by Toine

What if you are not so much into the whole Intention Manifestation thing or that subjective reality thing, is it still worth visiting Steve's blog?

I mean, he has lots of practical information on his site before his IM 'phase', that's what got me interested, but now everything seems to lead towards the same old topic...

hahahaha. 'phase' love it.

You think he will grow out of it?

It probably leads back to that, because that's the cause of most things...

[Shaden]

What if you are not so much into the whole Intention Manifestation thing or that subjective reality thing, is it still worth visiting Steve's blog?

I mean, he has lots of practical information on his site before his IM 'phase', that's what got me interested, but now everything seems to lead towards the same old topic...

That's just how Steve works. He'll come full circle and be back onto practical topics soon. If you look at his blog he likes to dive into different topics and explore them for a couple of months before darting back out and choosing another one. So practical ideas may come soon

[mej023]

You manifested Steve.

Steve only writes articles that you need to read.

[shesaboutspirit]

Originally Posted by mej023

You manifested Steve.

Steve only writes articles that you need to read.

Well said!

I'll second that.

[Savage]

What do you mean by "practical information?"

For me the LoA is extremely practical. It may not be practical to read about it, but IMO it's very practical to apply it.

[The David]

Whether the LoA is real or not, much of what he says about it can be applied to an ovjective reality as well.

[shant121]

Of course he is!! in fact he is writing about some of the most exciting things ever!

[Andrew Brunelle]

Hey, if you don't find Steve interesting anymore, stop reading. Plain and simple. No one's got a gun to your head, and if they do, well, you'd better keep on reading.

I think he's still got it, and so do the millions of people who visit his site each month. One visitor going away isn't going to cripple his earnings.

[Shaden]

One visitor going away isn't going to cripple his earnings.

One visitor going away shouldn't lead to such a response.

Toine if you're not a big fan of the LOA (and not everybody is) have you considered reading some of his older stuff? Steve has a lot of great material just waiting to be absorbed.

[Excellent Lodestar]

The "subjective reality thing" is all there is so...what's the problem? for me, things around here are perfect. I'm so glad I created this forum. Keep it coming "Steve" I used to be into the "manifestation"/Secret thing, and nowadays none of that stuff seems to matter much...so of course I'm "manifesting" effortlessly,All because of that shift from objective to Subjective(I GUESS;no other explanation) Loving it.

[Toine]

Thank you all for the replies I manifested.

Now I would like you to manifest the following reply.

I know the experience of reality is subjective. This does not mean that what I perceive IS reality. If there is none other than subjective reality than that becomes an objective truth, doesn’t it? However this can not be said from a subjective point of view. So in my humble opinion your answer is still your answer, of which I have no control. All that I control is the way I look at your answer.

Then back to Dani, what can I say? All things come and go. Whether or not Steve keeps this up is not really my concern. I just feel this The Secret thing is so hyped up.

Shaden, I have always enjoyed reading his articles and I am aware of his past writings, but currently I’m rather bored by what he writes about Intention Manifestation. A lot of people seem to share his subjective reality though. So that’s all good.

And yes, Steve, your articles are indeed still very practical. My point really is that like James Ray you are starting to “sound like a broken record” and I simply have my doubts about it. Then again I don’t (consciously) practice what you preach.

You are right David, but I would like to add that I don’t consider myself to talk from either an objective or an subjective standpoint.

Thanks Shant121 for you straightforward answer. As you can tell I am not as excited about it as you are, but don’t get me wrong, it’s still interesting stuff.

Andrew you are clearly a supporter of Steve. Good for you and good for Steve! Can I ask you another question though? If Steve were to shift back to an objective reality would you still read his articles?

Then Lodestar, you seem to be coming from a nice place. Cheers!

[Shaden]

Shaden, I have always enjoyed reading his articles and I am aware of his past writings, but currently I’m rather bored by what he writes about Intention Manifestation. A lot of people seem to share his subjective reality though. So that’s all good.

So read some other peoples. Like mine

[/joke]

[Cron]

My intuition is that people who are interested in reading about time management, business skills, "traditional" self improvement topics etc may not be the same crowd of people who are interested in reading about IM or parapsychology.

It would make an interesting poll.

Steve, my apologies if talking about these kind of things comes off as rude to you.

I still read your archives for those more traditional subjects.

[Cron]

Originally Posted by Andrew Brunelle

Hey, if you don't find Steve interesting anymore, stop reading. Plain and simple. No one's got a gun to your head, and if they do, well, you'd better keep on reading.

True, but that way of thinking is bad business and his blog is his business.

It is essential in a business knowing what your "customers" want and do not want. If you only provide things not enough people want, you will lose business.
Most smart business people should/would welcome this kind of information.

[Mike DeWitt]

For me, the great service Steve provides is that he takes an idea and then dives into it, experimenting to see what really gives results. Then he spends time and effort experimenting with ways of explaining those results. I really appreciate this work, because it gives me a jump start in experimenting myself!

If you understand Steve's process, you can understand the nuances of each new post. Instead of saying "Okay, Steve, enough of the Law of Attraction already. You've beat that horse into glue." you can ask "what can I do with the new spin he's put on this material?". Sometimes your answer may be "not much", but except for me (since it's my reality), Steve's not writing for one specific person. He's got a much broader audience than the rest of us, and he wants to help as many of them as he can (I'd think, right Steve?). You'll get more out of some posts than others. The same holds for the rest of the experiences in your life!

Mike

[judge45]

Steve's stuff is quiet good especially his podcast on tTNoR, but some of his stuff is a little long winded and confusing.

Maybe it's an intellect thing, me pretty stupid I have to admit!

But what's very cool is the idea of other ideas.

It's challenging, even confronting, but never boring, long winded sometimes, but that means I can't skim it and have to read it more than once to get it or even come close.

I have listened to tTNoR probably 10 times and I'm still digesting it. The more I think about it, the more it feels right to me.

The LoA is happening every second of everyday, I don't think we can ever talk too much about it.

It's the essential goo that binds us all.

Not everyone is going to love all Steve's stuff all the time, I've got a book case full of gurus and I take something from all or them.

There is no one person who has all the answers.

If it's too bothersome, just stop reading, it's your conscious decision.

HTH

Jeff

[kalyanganjam]

Originally Posted by Shaden

So read some other peoples. Like mine

[/joke]

I agree with you and looks like you read my mind. I feel exactly the same way Shaden feels. I am a great fan of steve and has benifited a great deal from his practical blog posts.

[Shaden]

I agree with you and looks like you read my mind. I feel exactly the same way Shaden feels. I am a great fan of steve and has benifited a great deal from his practical blog posts.

Now I'm just confused. How did you manage to get all that out of seven words?

You must be some kind of genius

[nantucketsunset]

just dip in and out of various authors' works - you don't need to follow anyone down his entire path as if he were a guru... :-)

to my mind, the practical subjects don't really "evolve" to these IM topics, and you should not be teased for feeling that way also.

i used to click on steve's blog about once a week, but now i do so about once a month, and i skim the articles these days rather than copying and pasting for further reading, as i did with the earlier material. that is not to say that i find his articles uninteresting now, but i had already read about and considered many the ideas that he discusses now, and so his positions on them or expositions of them are less illuminating, passion-inducing, or helpful in my own life. for other people, it might be a completely different story, and each to his own.

if you liked the practical materials, there are lots of other people writing on practical topics.

PS: Cron, no need to apologize to Steve for people's bringing this up, because Steve created these very postings himself, ha ha giggle... ;-)

[John Wesley]

I agree with the sentiments of the forum starter. Steve has had some practical posts recently i.e. Tips From a Snarky Entrepreneur, but most of the stuff about LoA and subjective reality doesn't really do it for me.

I'm still not quite sure how you apply the LoA. Is it really possible to control your own thoughts and bring them inline with your will? Clearly some people can do it, but I'm not sure if these people were taught to do it, or were born with the ability.

I'd love to see him get back into PD techniques applied to real life a la The 30 Day Trial and Becoming an Early Riser.

[Narz]

For the record I'd also like to see more focused and useful information besides the LoA stuff.

People need help. If I'm thirsty is a desert I don't want some schmo to tell me to visualize water, focus on water, think about water, I want a friggin' map that shows me where the oasis is and some tools (a jeep maybe) to help me get there faster.

Two hands working is better than a thousand hands praying and all that.

[Narz]

Originally Posted by John Wesley

LoA and subjective reality doesn't really do it for me.

Word! Not to mention they're mutually exclusive. I'm gonna write a post about that.

[JHL]

For me, the LOA has been much maligned by the marketing associated with it, however that does nothing to dimish the value inherent in understanding how it works.

If one revere engineers the mechanics of the LOA far enough, you reach a place where you have to take a good hard look at yourself. And if that isnt the cornerstone of PD, then what is?

So the answer might be an article that unpacks how to do that in simple english, devoid of any new agey or 'pseudoscientific' terminology that will make this very important topic accessible to a wider audience.

On the other hand, there isnt enough time in his lifetime for Steve to tailor his content to every taste and preference. So he presents it in his unique way, which will resonate with some, and not with others.

Personally, I am astonished at the wide range of material and topics that Steve covers and the integrity and honesty with which he approaches his work.

[NightOwlNation]

Originally Posted by Toine

What if you are not so much into the whole Intention Manifestation thing or that subjective reality thing, is it still worth visiting Steve's blog?

I mean, he has lots of practical information on his site before his IM 'phase', that's what got me interested, but now everything seems to lead towards the same old topic...

Hi Toine~~

What is your intention in posting this message? Are you feeling uncertain about where you wish to go next in your journey?

If you are no longer attracted to Steve's body of work or his forums then it may mean you are evolving towards something else and in a whole new direction entirely. But remember, this would not be about Steve Pavlina or anyone else.

[Toine]

What is your intention in posting this message?

Well NightOwlNation,

At the time I posted it I was genuinely bored with Steve's new articles and wondered if he'd ever write about something else. I considered forgetting Steve's blog and forum for a while, but instead posted a question to find out other people's point of view.

It's interesting to find not everyone on the forum is buying (literally and figuratively) this whole IM thing. Much respect to Steve though for finding his way into it. He doesn't just taste, he eats the whole meal. I read most of his articles, because even though I didn't join the meal, I am still interested at what's being served. In his last articles he seems to be moving away from the general approach to IM...

Are you feeling uncertain about where you wish to go next in your journey?

I AM uncertain about where my journey will go next. I have my plans and wishes, most of them will be manifested, but not in the way I imagined. Whatever happens is NEVER the way I imagined it. This is my own experience and seems to oppose the idea of trying to shape the future through thoughts and imagination, as I understand to be the idea of IM. Life is inherently uncertain.

Perhaps you are asking a different question, so another way I can answer is by saying I feel uncertain about whether or not I should use IM. I'm inclined not to, but strangely enough it's rather tempting sometimes.

If you are no longer attracted to Steve's body of work or his forums then it may mean you are evolving towards something else and in a whole new direction entirely. But remember, this would not be about Steve Pavlina or anyone else.

I am (at least partly) aware of this and like you and Steve I like to express my views. This forum is as good as any.

[NightOwlNation]

Hey There Toine ~~

The most important thing is that you are comfortable with the path you choose for yourself. We (hopefully) learn as we go, figuring out what feels best to us along the way. But mainly, even if no one else gets what your preferences are (family, friends, etc.), you still must honor your own path. This is then reflected without (3-D projection) and others will respond accordingly.

As Abraham (and others) reminds us: The basis of life is freedom. The purpose of life is joy.

[Ron Stoppable]

Originally Posted by Narz

Word! Not to mention they're [Law of Attraction and Subjective Reality] mutually exclusive. I'm gonna write a post about that.

Consider holding both systems at the same time. There's the rub.

[Brutha]

It's interesting to find not everyone on the forum is buying (literally and figuratively) this whole IM thing.

That isn't the case. For one there are people in the IM threads who argue against that concept.
One the other hand you should also be aware that people who don't believe in the concept would rather post in the "Social&Relationships"-subforum then in the "Intention Manifestion"-subforum.

If I count right there were 3 posts about subjective reality since October.
I think Steves writes more non-subjective reality stuff at the moment than 6 months ago.

[Witch Hazel]

Nobody can please everybody all of the time. I find most of what Steve posts enlightening and intriguing. YMMV. Take what you can use, and leave the rest!